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Training for hills when you live on the flat?

In Cambridgeshire it is flat as a pancake.

How do I prepare for hills?

Bath/Bristol it is gorgeous hilly  4

How would I prepare myself for hills when taking part in Sportives?

I thought of riding in a hard gear and standing up on some slope or Turbo trainer? -would this be enough?
Local gyms are lacking stair climbers too.

Any tips appreciated.

Thank you!

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Fish_n_Chips | 13 years ago
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Thanks J.T.C. I'll be there within a week and start building my core and hopefully tag along your club in 3 months after I'm comfortable with my distance again  1

Will explore Oundle - it's been a while.

Peterborough 100 not too far off!

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James Warrener | 13 years ago
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Oundle is a perfect base for some hillier cyling Fish_n_Chips.

You can make Rutland on a good day and some serious climbing from there.

Have a look at www.yaxleyriders.co.uk , we are members of a number of local clubs but just like to hang about and ride together. More than welcome to tag along.

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Fish_n_Chips | 13 years ago
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Thanks for all the advice on here!

Some scouting is needed and Oundle, Car parks and bike trailers for shopping is on my hit list as well as TT, wind and Turbo trainer with front wheel pyramid blocks!

Move to France?! Lol

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KirinChris | 13 years ago
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Just checking how flat it is here I looked up last week's club ride - 139km with a grand total 265m of climbing.

Slightly less than a 0.2% gradient.  26

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dave atkinson | 13 years ago
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funnily enough i'm the opposite; i live in nice hilly bath and i suffer like a dog.  22

it's a pie-related issue i think

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cat1commuter | 13 years ago
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I live in Cambridgeshire too, and have been pleasantly surprised by how well I climb on the rare occasions when I do hit the hills.

I think my secret is that I practice sitting and spinning. I have a bike computer with cadence, and try to keep between 95 and 100 rpm. When I hit the hills I shift down to maintain the same steady, high cadence.

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Simon_MacMichael | 13 years ago
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Are there any multistorey car parks near you?  3

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pabryan | 13 years ago
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You could always just move the the French Alps and solve your problem that way.

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dave atkinson | 13 years ago
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good plan - doesn't work when you're testing an electric Ute, I've found out thins evening  1

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cat1commuter replied to dave atkinson | 13 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

good plan - doesn't work when you're testing an electric Ute, I've found out thins evening  1

Just switch off the electrics!

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Stofish | 13 years ago
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My technique for hill training;

1. Find a supermarket downhill from your house, it doesn't need to be a big hill just physically lower than your house.

2. Buy a bike trailer, those single wheeled MTB ones are good.

3. Do the weekly food shop for you & your household by bike.

Even the smallest slope becomes significant when your pulling an extra 30kg.

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DaSy | 13 years ago
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Hill climbing ability is for the most part a function of power to weight ratio, so getting lighter whilst maintaining your current power or increasing power for you current weight will make all hills easier. Whether you achieve either of the above whilst training on the flat or in the hills makes little difference.

Training for hills in the hills seems logical, and does help psychologically to give you confidence, but you can achieve equally good results on the flat.

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KirinChris replied to DaSy | 13 years ago
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Where I am is probably even flatter than the flattest pancake in Cambridgeshire - and also given to horrible winds.

I disagree with DaSy about it being only psychological to train in the hills.

I've done a lot more good quality riding out here in the last three years and lost several kilos as well. So I'm stronger and lighter but I still have trouble climbing when I go back to do a sportive in Europe.

The main problem is being able to stand up in the pedals for any length of time. It's my arms and back that fail first, not my legs. It's very hard to replicate that on the flat - it doesn't have the same angle of being further forward over the bars as you do when climbing a hill.

So my view is, yes you can stand, do TT training and generally improve your power to weight ratio and fitness. But it will be hard to avoid some effect on your climbing ability and the other stuff is just the best way of compensating for it.

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James Warrener | 13 years ago
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Depends where in Cambridgeshire you are... I can get to Northants and the hills around Oundle pretty easily from my house.

Might be worth chucking the bike in the boot for a twenty minute drive before starting a ride ?

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Fish_n_Chips | 13 years ago
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Thanks Guys, I was planning way ahead but as Jimmy the Cuckoo will know, Cambs is flat as a pancake but very windy.

Although the aero position helps quite a bit.

You guys have got me thinking about which energy and muscular systems are being used on hills and also sprint intervals on straight.

Time to get the notepad, heart rate monitor and cadence computer on and attack Lansdown and see if I can mimick in training in Peterborough area and weights in my garage.

Agree with the core work too.

Thanks for the inspiration - I have 3 weeks till I move and 6-8 rides to collect some data lol.

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simonmb | 13 years ago
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Headwinds are truly miserable - the only solace I take out of one is that it's the gift of an invisible and unexpected hill. Still miserable though.

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dave atkinson | 13 years ago
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Depends what kind of hills, really. If you're off to france for some alpine or pyrenean climbing then generally the slopes are gradual and long and you need to do long efforts. time trialling may not seem like great practice for the hills but physiologically it's very similar exercise.

round here the hills are steeper and shorter, which is more difficult to replicate, but you could try sprint intervals like monty dog suggests. basically you want to get as much resistance as you can!

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monty dog | 13 years ago
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Sprint drills into a headwind in a big gear out the saddle - builds up your quads and core.

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