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Did I miss the memo? (grumpy cyclist rant)

Today I encountered so many grumpy, miserable or rude cyclists.

Did I miss the memo about it being unfriendly Friday or something!

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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stewieatb | 12 years ago
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If I'm hacking around Oxford I usually don't as I'd never stop saying hello. Exception is when I'm heading to the boathouse at 6:30am; anyone out at that time deserves a wave.

When riding at home (I don't have time for proper bike rides when I'm at uni) I try to wave/nod/greet to most I see.

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roly | 12 years ago
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When I am head down on my long commute I do try to smile, but you have to remember that for some of us it's hard work and that grimace is actually a smile, but just doesn't look like it as I struggle with the headwind.

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Comrade | 12 years ago
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I mostly greet/ wave at cyclists or runners when running or cycling...it seems to me I normally get a better response from runners; however, if I am pedaling up a hill I need to keep both hands (the white knuckle kind)holding on for dear life and can't normally talk or smile!!!

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notfastenough | 12 years ago
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With this thread in mind, I kept score while I was out on Thursday. Only 2 other riders didn't wave/nod, and one of them insisting tailing me for th next 5-10 miles, alternating between drafting off me and yo-yo-ing off my wheel then catching up again. I do hope he found it tough!

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SideBurn | 12 years ago
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Was out on Exmoor yesterday; I think there must have been a go to Exmoor and be nice to everyone memo. Not only did I see more cyclists than walkers even the walkers exchanged pleasantaries. The bird watchcers smiled. Was advised of a group of walkers further down the descent, very thoughtful. A great ride, great weather. Not everyone saw the memo though...the dog walkers in the car next to us ignored us at the car park, ignored us again on the moor when they saw us and ignored us again when they arrived back at the car park at the same time as us... The dogs were friendly though

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mr-andrew | 12 years ago
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I've found that as a rule, people are generally quite friendly, although I seem to be the one that greets 1st. However, when I'm off to go camping or climbing, I've found that the same lot of cyclists find me invisible on my fat tyred flat bar with panniers. Seems a little stupid really.

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Super Domestique | 12 years ago
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Only saw 1 rider today on my lunchtime spin (other than my dad who joined me and is learning clipless and fell off at first junction!) today.

He had a club jersey on and acknowledged both of us individually as he passed.

Got me thinking, that little gesture of acknowledgment was a good advert for his club or team. Now how bad it reflects on teams or clubs when riders are aloof.

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bashthebox | 12 years ago
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There's an awful lot of arbitrary lumping of people into groups in this thread.

Fixie riders! Ignorant!
Horses! Toffs!
Expensive bikes! Arrogant!

Maybe we should all just accept that some people are friendly and some are not. Or even that some people are so out of puff that changing their grimace into a smile would cause them to wobble off the road? Who knows.

Carry on waving, I'll wave back. Lots of others will do too, lots won't. C'est la vie.

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Simon_MacMichael replied to stewieatb | 12 years ago
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stewieatb wrote:

Exception is when I'm heading to the boathouse at 6:30am; anyone out at that time deserves a wave.

Used to live down the road from Godstow, always used to be fun seeing the mini peloton of eight rowers plus cox go past  1

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Edgeley | 12 years ago
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Horse riders are extemely polite round my way. Oxfordshire. They appreciate it if you don't sneak up on them and spook the horses.

I would say 50% of fellow cyclists respond to a hello. I think if I am on my road bike, more road bikers say hello back, and if I am on my getting the train commuter hybrid, then more hybridists. Which is a sad reflection on cyclists, in my view.

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lob | 12 years ago
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Cycling newbie really, but always smile/nod/say hi depending where I am hill wise  7

If I was in a city centre cycling to work i'm not sure it would be that easy, but just riding for leisure and enjoyment, so not an issue for me  4

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David cycling t... | 12 years ago
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i love a good hello/wave/nod. its polite and brighens up the day, its always great to spot a fellow cyclist, but i do hate it when they ignore you or give you a weirld look. theres just no need! ive found that in a rural setting, 99% of the cyclists you cross paths with are always friendly. whereas in a urban, bult up setting, ive found a large percentage to be grumpy, as if the hate life as if the wife has forced him out of his car leaving him to cycle the 2 miles to miles to work and now has a deep hatred for mankind.

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CarbonBreaker | 12 years ago
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I must've wish a "good morning" to 60plus people yesterday on the long ride I did here in Singapore, all with a nice "good morning" in response... I do try to limit it to one "hello" to groups of cyclists though otherwise it gets silly!

Interestingly here, as there is so little space to ride, people tend to get on well, but there are the usual idiots as in all places. Even the massive (50 plus riders) groups who take up the road like a critical mass event tend to be friendly, even it the car drivers don't like it too much!

As long as I can sneak past them of course, bugger being stuck on the back of that lot!

There is alot of money spent on bikes here too, but all the gear is not a precursor to an idiot in my experience, just wish I could afford to keep up with that level of disposable income.

Week days there are so few commuters, we have to stick together!

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CarbonBreaker | 12 years ago
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I must've wish a "good morning" to 60plus people yesterday on the long ride I did here in Singapore, all with a nice "good morning" in response... I do try to limit it to one "hello" to groups of cyclists though otherwise it gets silly!

Interestingly here, as there is so little space to ride, people tend to get on well, but there are the usual idiots as in all places. Even the massive (50 plus riders) groups who take up the road like a critical mass event tend to be friendly, even it the car drivers don't like it too much!

As long as I can sneak past them of course, bugger being stuck on the back of that lot!

There is alot of money spent on bikes here too, but all the gear is not a precursor to an idiot in my experience, just wish I could afford to keep up with that level of disposable income.

Week days there are so few commuters, we have to stick together!

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Super Domestique | 12 years ago
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Interesting comments on weekday v weekend cyclists. Friday was a holiday which means weekenders out rather than the ones I spot in the week. The week day riders have been friendly by comparison. Normally I ride during the week leaving time with the kids at the weekend.

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kafylou | 12 years ago
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I'm so relieved to read these comments, I thought it was just me. Ive been cycling on and off for 20+ years but I have certainly noticed it more on this come back. Ive put it down to i'm a women, tubby and not quite conquered clipless yet,but obviously i've been too harsh on myself.I wave and smile to all cyclists geared up, roadie and the odd mountain biker on the way to the woods. If i dont get a response (I dont expect one on a busy road or on a steep hill climb) I now just snigger to myself as I almost feel that me being there has p**** them off. As i qouted on facebook recently "to the 5 people who ignored me this morning, don't panic I don't want to be your best mate I'm just acknowledging we're doing the same thing" I also think its a weekend thing as midweek cyclists are a lot friendlier.

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giff77 | 12 years ago
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The other day I passed a fellah from another club. Smiled, said hi and as I pulled in he was on my wheel. Levelled up after a mile or so and spent a good chunk of the ride chatting before peeling off to finish our own loops. Made a pleasant day much more enjoyable.

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notfastenough replied to giff77 | 12 years ago
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giff77 wrote:

The other day I passed a fellah from another club. Smiled, said hi and as I pulled in he was on my wheel. Levelled up after a mile or so and spent a good chunk of the ride chatting before peeling off to finish our own loops. Made a pleasant day much more enjoyable.

That made my decision to join my club. I was finishing a Sunday morning ride and overtook a lad in club kit on his own. He followed my wheel, and after a bit we got chatting. I joined the same club.

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colhum1 | 12 years ago
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Being friendly and saying hello isn't hard  103
Just blooming difficult when you're out on your 'cycle to work' bike..
unfit and trying to breathe  3

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Simon_MacMichael | 12 years ago
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Not sure about the urban vs country thing. I live in a small town in the Cotswolds - three minutes or so in any direction and I'm out in open country - and I reckon one in two riders returns a wave. Vast majority I see out here are on road bikes, BTW.

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ragtag | 12 years ago
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I notice a difference between the weekend and weekdays. Weekday folk tend to be much more friendly, less so at the weekend. Living near Box Hill it does get a bit busier at the weekend for sure but I still manage to nod.

I guess though some people aren't used to it being new or have experienced the blank so often they don't bother.

Still, glad it's not just me  1

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notfastenough | 12 years ago
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@IOM Paddy - don't mean Rapha gear do you?  1 kinda know what you mean, although while out in a Rapha top on Thursday i was overtaken by a fast lad in full Rapha racing kit on a black Condor - we both said hello. I'm inclined to think he was a pro or at least supported by RCS in some way.

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Philx | 12 years ago
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I think it's a density issue sometimes. Little towns or places where you don't see many other riders, you get a friendly response nearly all of the time. Places like Regents Park in London you'd get a pretty sore throat if you said hi to everyone you met training there.

Touring cyclists are usually brilliant; In 8 months of riding towards Oz I think we stopped for a full blown chat with every other pannier laden person we met.

Quote:

One of the things we're aiming to do this year is get more touring in.

That's good to hear - let me know if you need a guest reviewer  3

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zzgavin | 12 years ago
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On the Essex roads it's mostly a wave and a nod, sometimes even a hello, sometimes a blank look. I make a point of saying hello to horse riders and going slowly, I always get a polite reply.

On a haywards heath sportive last weekend it was a mixed crowd, I needed to stop very early and sort out a loose bottle cage I'd fiddled with trying to sort out a creak. So I was passed by hundreds, then got back on and passed most of them again, especially on the stiff early hill. Most hellos were responded to, I like to think it is part of what makes cycling fun

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IOM Paddy | 12 years ago
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I always try and wave or say hello. I have commented to freinds before that people clad in a certain expensive brand of gear are v grumpy.

I now understand why I am looked down on when I am on a a straight bar bike. I laugh as I have two drop bars.

If for any reason I don't wave or say hello it's due to the pain I am in - sorry.

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Raleigh | 12 years ago
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Some drivers are pretty ignorant too.

I don't wave to them.  2

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russyparkin | 12 years ago
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come to devon, 95% wave apart from the singlespeed/fixie crowd. they are the ignorant part of cycling society.

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Raleigh | 12 years ago
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I apologise if I sound rude,

YOU'VE CHANGED ME!

I'm going to wave at every Tom, Dick and Harry (Jane, Beth and Sally) tomorrow, whatever bike they're on.

Well done guys!  4  4

NB, its actually peer pressure, but it appeals to my better nature, obvs.

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Super Domestique | 12 years ago
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Really pleased to hear most here are of the friendly variety.

If any miserable riders read this then they will know who I mean if they spot my username on my top tube.

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tomascjenkins | 12 years ago
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I was passed by a cyclist on a smart bike yesterday and then overtook him on a steep hill. He said 'fairplay' and I responded with 'cheers mate!' Its not all frosty out there!

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