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Lance Armstrong confession… Wiggins and Cav have their say (or don't)

Bradley Wiggins under Twitter attack after references to 1990s and Paul Kimmage, while Mark Cavendish goes off the deep end in Belgium

Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins have both been in the spotlight after being asked their reactions to Lance Armstrong’s confession in doping to Oprah Winfrey, part one of which is due to be aired on Friday morning in the UK on, of all places, the Discovery Channel. It will also be streamed live.

Wiggins, speaking to Sky News from Team Sky’s training camp in Mallorca, Wiggins said that the team wasn’t too concerned because they were concentrating on the season ahead.

He went on: But you’ve seen the reaction to it the last few months and there’s a lot of angry people about that are taking their frustrations and venting their anger in all different directions.

“But they need that closure in their life because they've been battling for so long for this.

"It will be a great day for a lot of people and quite a sad day for the sport in some ways," he said of Armstrong’s reported confession.

"But I think it has been a sad couple of months for the sport in that sense,” he added. “The 90s are pretty much a write-off now."

While that decade had been blighted by doping with use of EPO widespread in the peloton well before the Festina scandal of 1998, Wiggins’ remarks provoked widespread criticism on Twitter.

Several users pointed out that the first of Armstrong’s seven Tour de France wins that he has now been stripped of only happened in the final year of the decade.

Wiggins himself has been elevated to third in the 2009 Tour de France after Armstrong was stripped of all results dating back to August 1998.

Twitter users also focused on comments that Wiggins made about Paul Kimmage, although his remarks about the Irish former pro cyclist turned journalist are not in an edited version of the interview posted to the Sky News website.

However, that segment was included in audio of the interview included in Irish radio station Newstalk.ie’s Off The Ball show.

Earlier this month, in an interview published in German on newspaper Frankurter Allgemeine's website, FAZ.net, Kimmage said: "I don't know anyone who could say that the last Tour de France was totally convincing. If you apply the same standards to Bradley Wiggins as to Lance Armstrong, there are alarming similarties."

He went on: "Look how their teams are dominant. There are four, five riders who ride very strongly for three weeks without a bad day. The question is, is that logical?'

Referring to that interview, Wiggins said yesterday: “We saw last week with Paul Kimmage with me and the team, he’s just eaten up with it, and I think to people like that it’s just going to mean a hell of a lot. What they do with their lives after he does admit it is anyone’s guess."

After playing the interview, the Irish radio show’s presenters criticised Wiggins for having singled out Kimmage and, in their words – not his, as has been said – describing him as “bitter.” They also said that given his status in the sport, Wiggins should be much more forthright about his views of Armstrong and should be hailing a great day for the sport.

“What it has to do with Paul Kimmage and how bitter Paul Kimmage is, is an eye-opener for me,” said one.

In a series of tweets today, Kimmage said: “Interesting that Bradley Wiggins is still following the Lance Armstrong blueprint for success:

"1 Ignore the message 2 Attack the messenger

“If I still had a job [he was made redundant by The Sunday Times a year ago tomorrow], I'd be camped outside the Sky training camp in Majorca and would not go away until Wiggins adressed the message... the hiring of Gert Leinders, and the sacking of four key members of staff since he won the Tour.

Kimmage concluded: “Oh, last thing Bradley, if you would like to address those issues in an interview, I'd be more than happy to sit down with you.”

Even before he won the Tour in July, Wiggins learnt that being favourite for the race meant that his performance would be scrutinised from all angles and that questions would be asked about how he achieved it.

That’s unsurprising given the history of some of the men who have stood on top of the podium over the last couple of decades.

Until he and Team Sky manage to satisfy some of their more vocal critics, the hard questions will continue to be asked – and Kimmage will be foremost among those who want to ask them.

Meanwhile Cavendish turned the air blue at the Omega Pharma-Quick Step presentation in Ghent last night when he was repeatedly asked his opinion regarding Lance Armstrong’s reported confession.

His frustration is perhaps understandable – he was there after all to be officially presented to the public alongside his new team mates including Tom Boonen – and it’s also one that won’t surprise seasoned Cav-watchers.

According to ITV Sport, the former world champion had in fact already replied to two questions put to him on the subject.

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-01-15/cyclist-mark-cavendishs-frustration-b...

“There's been reports that he's confessed to doping but I haven't seen any interviews yet, so until then I can't really comment," he said in reply to the first.

Then, when asked if he would be watching the interview, he explained he wouldn’t, since he’d be travelling to Argentina where he is riding the Tour de San Luis, which starts next week.

ITV Sport says Cavendish then took a member of team staff to task, saying, “Why was I left alone there with that guy asking about Lance? One of you should have been around then.”

Despite that, it seems no-one thought to forewarn reporters taking part in a subsequent round of interviews, and when he was again asked his opinion Cavendish, whose autobiography Boy Racer, carries the two word quote “Cool Kid” from Armstrong on the cover of the paperback version, really blew his stack.

"**** off, seriously **** off if you're asking about this," he is reported to have said, before asking one of the team’s staff, “Can you get him away please. Please get this guy away. He just wants to talk about Lance, **** off.”

[We have a hunch the words asterisked by ITV all started with 'F' - ed]

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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jollygoodvelo | 11 years ago
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Kimmage is right that the style of Wiggo's win was very much like US Postal. We all said it at the time.

But the substance is completely different. Simple power output analysis of la Planche des Belles Filles earlier this year showed that a rider giving the output that Lance, Pantani, Riis etc used to would have been minutes ahead of this year's riders.

Cav's reaction is daft though. I know he's always like that, but he has to realise it loses him fans?

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BigDummy | 11 years ago
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Not impressed with these guys today.

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philallan | 11 years ago
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I can understand why the guys may get cheesed off, but like it or not, Brad and Cav are the two highest profile riders in the world now. That fame and cash brings a degree of responsbility and status that means they absolutely would and should, in my opinion, be asked about the highest profile ex-rider in the world.
Cav has a point though, what the fcuk are press officers doing sitting on their asres? They should be pro-actively working with their riders and team management to scotch the rumours and nip the whispers in the bud. Sky and Brailsford in particular must accept that PR works both ways, you can't now just bask in the glory without accepting the scrutiny. Sure, be as pssied off as you like that Lance still casts his ugly shadow over your achievements, but hey, deal with it.
As much as what Wiggo says (or ghost wrote) rings true and strong, we've kind of heard similar before and look where that's ended up. All us fans want is to believe in the guys we invest so much time, emotion - and money - on.
Getting the Kimmage seal of approval would, if I were doing the PR, be a priority. Paul is beyond reproach and a GC-standard pain in the arse, but convincing him, through total transparency, pretty much gives a team (and its star turns) a "kite mark" for probity - surely worth the hassle of having him around for a while, as Garmin did.

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Chuffy replied to philallan | 11 years ago
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philallan wrote:

I can understand why the guys may get cheesed off, but like it or not, Brad and Cav are the two highest profile riders in the world now. That fame and cash brings a degree of responsbility and status that means they absolutely would and should, in my opinion, be asked about the highest profile ex-rider in the world.
Cav has a point though, what the fcuk are press officers doing sitting on their asres? They should be pro-actively working with their riders and team management to scotch the rumours and nip the whispers in the bud. Sky and Brailsford in particular must accept that PR works both ways, you can't now just bask in the glory without accepting the scrutiny. Sure, be as pssied off as you like that Lance still casts his ugly shadow over your achievements, but hey, deal with it.
As much as what Wiggo says (or ghost wrote) rings true and strong, we've kind of heard similar before and look where that's ended up. All us fans want is to believe in the guys we invest so much time, emotion - and money - on.
Getting the Kimmage seal of approval would, if I were doing the PR, be a priority. Paul is beyond reproach and a GC-standard pain in the arse, but convincing him, through total transparency, pretty much gives a team (and its star turns) a "kite mark" for probity - surely worth the hassle of having him around for a while, as Garmin did.

Yup. Wiggins just seems hellbent on saying the stupidest things. It doesn't inspire confidence. Kimmage has a lot of kudos, but you have to ask what he will be satisfied with, at what point will he be happy that things are better? Kimmage is the canary in the coalmine, but he's painted himself into a corner where pointing fingers and being cynical is all he can do. Teams should indeed be working to convince him, but he really is a chippy little git and I can understand why many riders dislike him, regardless of the state of their conscience.

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LeDomestique | 11 years ago
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The TdF and other top races will need to be transparently clean for five to ten years before reporters are likely to stop asking these questions. The appalling legacy of the sport is such that it's hard to 100 per cent believe anyone - even Sir Brad - when they say they don't dope. Cav and Brad will spend the rest of their sporting lives answering these questions and - unfortunately for them - they'll have to get used to it. Sounds like the Pharma Quickstep PR's need to get their backsides in gear too.

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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Wiggins has every right to criticise Kimmage, he has made a veiled comment that Sky must have cheated as the team did the same for Bradley as the teams did for Armstrong.

The man has gone way way down in my estimation. How can someone who was to be sued for defamation come out with "Interesting that Bradley Wiggins is still following the Lance Armstrong blueprint for success"  14

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OldRidgeback replied to Stumps | 11 years ago
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stumps wrote:

Wiggins has every right to criticise Kimmage, he has made a veiled comment that Sky must have cheated as the team did the same for Bradley as the teams did for Armstrong.

The man has gone way way down in my estimation. How can someone who was to be sued for defamation come out with "Interesting that Bradley Wiggins is still following the Lance Armstrong blueprint for success"  14

Yep, couldn't agree more. The comment was below the belt and given all the testing Wiggins will have had for the tour and the Olympics, it'd take some kind of magic for him to have been a doper. The same goes for Cavendish and the rest of the team. It was a stupid and offensive remark by Kimmage.

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Chuffy replied to OldRidgeback | 11 years ago
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OldRidgeback wrote:

Yep, couldn't agree more. The comment was below the belt and given all the testing Wiggins will have had for the tour and the Olympics, it'd take some kind of magic for him to have been a doper.

Try swapping the word Wiggins for Armstrong in that sentence. That argument has never held water and we know that 'never failed a test' does not mean 'must be clean'.

I don't agree with Kimmage on this btw, I think he's reaching a bit too far with his insinuations re: Sky - the numbers on the climbs suggest we're a long way from the bad old days, but Sky and Wiggins seem to be doing a grand job of making themselves look shifty and untrustworthy.

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OldRidgeback replied to Chuffy | 11 years ago
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Chuffy wrote:
OldRidgeback wrote:

Yep, couldn't agree more. The comment was below the belt and given all the testing Wiggins will have had for the tour and the Olympics, it'd take some kind of magic for him to have been a doper.

Try swapping the word Wiggins for Armstrong in that sentence. That argument has never held water and we know that 'never failed a test' does not mean 'must be clean'.

I don't agree with Kimmage on this btw, I think he's reaching a bit too far with his insinuations re: Sky - the numbers on the climbs suggest we're a long way from the bad old days, but Sky and Wiggins seem to be doing a grand job of making themselves look shifty and untrustworthy.

I can totally understand why Wiggins is pissed off at Kimmage for making those snide remarks. I think I'd feel the same.

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pauldmorgan replied to Chuffy | 11 years ago
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Chuffy - Where that comparison fails (and I agree with OldRidgeback on this) is that Armstrong only competed in two Olympics: one could say that he deliberately avoided them to avoid the extra testing. The proximity of the TdF to the Olympics would make cheating all the more precarious.

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fatrunner replied to Stumps | 11 years ago
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I agree with stumpy Couldn't believe Kimmage had a pop at wiggins and sky He just comes across as angry with cyclists who have success

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TheSpaniard | 11 years ago
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I can't blame Cav, Wiggo etc for snapping at reporters who keep asking questions about a washed-up never-was, they've been getting it for months now.

No doubt some sections of the media with an agenda on this will accuse these riders of maintaining the omerta because they refuse to give the same answers to the same questions over and over again.

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