Geraint Thomas at start of TT nats 2018.JPG — Geraint Thomas at start of TT nats 2018 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Live blog: Geraint Thomas wins TT nats, Alex Dowsett on the history of time trialling, Barnes sisters 1 and 2 at national champs TT, + more

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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Kendalred

June 28, 2018 at 9:00 am

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Meh. You don’t need CO2 for

Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
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- hawkinspeter
  
  June 28, 2018 at 9:59 am
  
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  KendalRed wrote:
  
  Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
  
  — KendalRed
  
  I like my cider like I like my women: flat, dry and smelling of apples.
  
  Wait a minute, that sounds wrong – I’ll come in again.
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  - Simmo72
    
    June 28, 2018 at 11:42 am
    
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    hawkinspeter wrote:
    
    Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
    
    — hawkinspeter
    
    I like my cider like I like my women: flat, dry and smelling of apples.
    
    Wait a minute, that sounds wrong – I’ll come in again.
    
    — KendalRed
    
    How about strong, sweet and leaves a hole in your wallet
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    - hawkinspeter
      
      June 28, 2018 at 12:24 pm
      
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      Simmo72 wrote:
      
      Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
      
      — Simmo72
      
      I like my cider like I like my women: flat, dry and smelling of apples.
      
      Wait a minute, that sounds wrong – I’ll come in again.
      
      — hawkinspeter
      
      How about strong, sweet and leaves a hole in your wallet
      
      — KendalRed
      
      I like my cider like I like my women: cold, cheap and alcoholic.
      
      Nope, still not right.
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      - Mungecrundle
        
        June 28, 2018 at 12:58 pm
        
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        hawkinspeter wrote:
        
        Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
        
        — hawkinspeter
        
        I like my cider like I like my women: flat, dry and smelling of apples.
        
        Wait a minute, that sounds wrong – I’ll come in again.
        
        — Simmo72
        
        How about strong, sweet and leaves a hole in your wallet
        
        — hawkinspeter
        
        I like my cider like I like my women: cold, cheap and alcoholic.
        
        Nope, still not right.
        
        — KendalRed
        
        I prefer mine in the park on a bench, cheap and not too gassy.
        
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        .
        
        .
        
        But I don’t drink cider.
- monkeytrousers
  
  June 28, 2018 at 1:15 pm
  
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  KendalRed wrote:
  
  Meh. You don’t need CO2 for proper beer anyway.
  
  — KendalRed
  
  Or proper cycling.
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ChrisB200SX

June 28, 2018 at 12:01 pm

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I get shoaled a lot in London

I get shoaled a lot in London, it’s really frustrating as I’m rather rapid from a standing start, let alone cruising speed, this happens mostly because other selfish twunts go past the white line and stop in front of me and anyone else abiding by the rules. Cycle lanes simply aren’t as wide as they should be. Vauxhall Bridge is a prime example, concrete/armco in one of the lanes.
Occasionally I pull up alongside other cyclists. I’ve yet to experience anyone who can keep up, though a couple have benefitted from a massive tow through Hyde Park 🙂 I wouldn’t behave like this if I was likely to be slowing people down though.
What I find worse though, is when I stop behind the car/van/taxi at the front of the queue at a red light (like you are supposed to), only for half a dozen dozy dawdling cyclists to amble past and stop past the white line. This then results in a gaggle of slow cyclists taking ages to get moving and the car/van/taxi having a sizeable delay to slower-than-usual forward motion, delaying everyone who is abiding by the rules. Only for the car/van/taxi and myself to overtake the lot of them about 50m later. Seriously guys, why can’t you join the queue, it’s not very British, is it!? I can understand why drivers get so frustrated by this at is does genuinely hold up traffic. ASL boxes at every appropriate traffic light would go a long way though.
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- Htc
  
  June 28, 2018 at 1:18 pm
  
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  ChrisB200SX wrote:
  
  I get shoaled a lot in London, it’s really frustrating as I’m rather rapid from a standing start, let alone cruising speed, this happens mostly because other selfish twunts go past the white line and stop in front of me and anyone else abiding by the rules. Cycle lanes simply aren’t as wide as they should be. Vauxhall Bridge is a prime example, concrete/armco in one of the lanes.
  Occasionally I pull up alongside other cyclists. I’ve yet to experience anyone who can keep up, though a couple have benefitted from a massive tow through Hyde Park 🙂 I wouldn’t behave like this if I was likely to be slowing people down though.
  What I find worse though, is when I stop behind the car/van/taxi at the front of the queue at a red light (like you are supposed to), only for half a dozen dozy dawdling cyclists to amble past and stop past the white line. This then results in a gaggle of slow cyclists taking ages to get moving and the car/van/taxi having a sizeable delay to slower-than-usual forward motion, delaying everyone who is abiding by the rules. Only for the car/van/taxi and myself to overtake the lot of them about 50m later. Seriously guys, why can’t you join the queue, it’s not very British, is it!? I can understand why drivers get so frustrated by this at is does genuinely hold up traffic. ASL boxes at every appropriate traffic light would go a long way though.
  
  — ChrisB200SX
  
  I think that’s just it – especially in London you almost expect every set of lights to have an ASL so quite often cyclists are moving to the front purely because they know 90% of the time there is an ASL which is the safer place to be..
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  - EddyBerckx
    
    June 28, 2018 at 1:59 pm
    
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    Htc wrote:
    
    I get shoaled a lot in London, it’s really frustrating as I’m rather rapid from a standing start, let alone cruising speed, this happens mostly because other selfish twunts go past the white line and stop in front of me and anyone else abiding by the rules. Cycle lanes simply aren’t as wide as they should be. Vauxhall Bridge is a prime example, concrete/armco in one of the lanes.
    Occasionally I pull up alongside other cyclists. I’ve yet to experience anyone who can keep up, though a couple have benefitted from a massive tow through Hyde Park 🙂 I wouldn’t behave like this if I was likely to be slowing people down though.
    What I find worse though, is when I stop behind the car/van/taxi at the front of the queue at a red light (like you are supposed to), only for half a dozen dozy dawdling cyclists to amble past and stop past the white line. This then results in a gaggle of slow cyclists taking ages to get moving and the car/van/taxi having a sizeable delay to slower-than-usual forward motion, delaying everyone who is abiding by the rules. Only for the car/van/taxi and myself to overtake the lot of them about 50m later. Seriously guys, why can’t you join the queue, it’s not very British, is it!? I can understand why drivers get so frustrated by this at is does genuinely hold up traffic. ASL boxes at every appropriate traffic light would go a long way though.
    
    — Htc
    
    I think that’s just it – especially in London you almost expect every set of lights to have an ASL so quite often cyclists are moving to the front purely because they know 90% of the time there is an ASL which is the safer place to be..
    
    — ChrisB200SX
    
    But the point is that shoaling is deeply selfish and ignorant. As are their closely related cousins, the RLJ’er. Very rarely are they travelling particularly fast…but they will overtake while you’re stopped at the light and get in your way 50 foot further on. They’ll do this multiple times without giving a toss.
    
    They are car drivers but on a bike. No consideration for anyone but themselves…their journey times takes precedence over everything.
    
    It’s not cricket.
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    - hawkinspeter
      
      June 28, 2018 at 2:34 pm
      
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      StoopidUserName wrote:
      
      … They are car drivers but on a bike. …
      
      — StoopidUserName
      
      So, they’re cyclists then.
      
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      - EddyBerckx
        
        June 28, 2018 at 3:42 pm
        
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        hawkinspeter wrote:
        
        … They are car drivers but on a bike. …
        
        — hawkinspeter
        
        So, they’re cyclists then.
        
        — StoopidUserName
        
        no.
      - hawkinspeter
        
        June 28, 2018 at 3:49 pm
        
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        StoopidUserName wrote:
        
        … They are car drivers but on a bike. …
        
        — StoopidUserName
        
        So, they’re cyclists then.
        
        — hawkinspeter
        
        no.
        
        — StoopidUserName
        
        Are they, maybe, true scotsmen?
      - pockstone
        
        June 28, 2018 at 7:29 pm
        
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        hawkinspeter wrote:
        
        … They are car drivers but on a bike. …
        
        — hawkinspeter
        
        So, they’re cyclists then.
        
        — StoopidUserName
        
        …but not cricketers.
fukawitribe

June 28, 2018 at 6:13 pm

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spot on…

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jerome

June 28, 2018 at 6:51 pm

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I dont’t think I am a shoaler

I dont’t think I am a shoaler. I often see skiny women riding antic steel bikes overpassing me, sometimes because I stop at red lights, and sometimes because they truely are faster.
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@Paul J one without brakes?

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Too much time on my hands obvs!

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@mark1212123 Or even "what are our transport needs, what do we think we'll need in the future, what other important properties may impact that" etc. The latter might be not paying millions to keep repairing public infra, resilience (eg. less reliance on products from "difficult" regions, less impermeable surfaces which cause rapid run-off), local "places" and businesses, public safety, health... And on that perhaps encouraging people (and especially children) to get out more for both physical and mental health, which would suggest we need places where people find it feels safe and pleasant for young and old to be moving outside, where you can hear others speak, where you're not breathing in particulates or stopping and waiting for a minute every time you go to the other side of the street... Motor vehicles are space inefficient and also take over spaces - hence the urban "geometry problem". FWIW while it's hard to imagine in the UK that conversation has happened elsewhere. In places like eg. Amsterdam ("Amsterdam makes space" - a plan removing thousands of on-street parking spaces and narrowing roads - which people have voted for!), Utrecht (removing the inner ring road etc), perhaps Paris...

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@mark1212123 Well, yes, in that there are more people now than say 1990, and (I think) more of them drive... ...but also it just so happens that some road users are more equal than others, allotted a couple of living-rooms' worth of space. Plus as private motor vehicles get bigger and people are not all piling in one mini anymore they're getting even more space. And also those "small roads" were often "streets" not long back. We've kept the "through-access" available even though they weren't designed for it and they can't easily be expanded for that. And/or the "smallness" of the road is because there are actually three or four lanes of motor vehicles - one or two are all the parked cars we can't "see" when we think "narrow street"...

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Xenophon2 2 hours ago

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Steve K 2 hours ago

Mark's a great bloke. He and I have done similar football related cycling challenges (mine around Crystal Palace) and we met when he cycled to Palace a few years ago. I'm gutted for him.

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I'd call it more of a pick-up truck than an SUV, but I expect they want to market it more to people who are trying to replace their SUV rather than a pickup. I own a longtail e-cargo bike that I'm very happy with and would never want a front loader. It's going to be tricky to make the rear suspension work well and not compromise other aspects. Not something that I would trust to a kickstarter project.

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wtjs 2 hours ago

@Peterjbdk Even the Government’s Road Safety Strategy says that – Vision Zero... The January 2026 Road Safety Strategy says lots of things- almost none of the important ones are even taken seriously by the government itself, which is why they're 'consulting' on them for long enough that the document is sunk without trace in a sea of digital dust. The police will sabotage anything they don't like, which includes anything to the benefit of cycling and cyclists- how much more evident that they won't lift a finger can it be when Essex and Kent police collude to refuse to even look at close-passing videos when there has been no collision NO MATTER HOW CLOSE. This is 'get yourself KSI'd and we'll see what we can do': Vision Zero?! Sod That for a Lark is the police vision. Pretty much the whole 'strategy' is complete fiction, with no expectation that anything will change if drivers wouldn't like it. As for the 'consultations' on whether driving without MOT or insurance, or with illegal/ fake plates are genuinely a bad thing deserving more than joke punishment...?! Lancashire Police were informed regularly, with photos, for over a year that HN21 VXB was without MOT or VED. I've put many of the photos on here. The police refused to respond after PC Mike Duff of Garstang Neighbourhood Policing Team told me back in January 26 not to tell him about such 'alleged offences' because he didn't have time to look into them. It was only when I sent the Bent Coppers this without comment, taken at the driver's house, that they got worried and suddenly something changed:

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