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The police seem to using video footage as evidence when it suits them.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-devon-42661283/speeding-motorcyc...

So this guy crashes his motorbike and police take his helmet cam and use this video as evidence of his wrong-doing.

Cyclists are getting assaulted and submitting video to the police, who are disregarding it as admissable evidence. WTF is going on?

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ktache | 6 years ago
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The paramedic already had 6 points on his licence, so not his first bit of substandard driving.

You'd think he might have attended some horrific crashes caused by speeding motorists.

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Yorkshire wallet | 6 years ago
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I know of someone who got 12 month ban and a fine for dangerous, doing 139!! on a b-road. 

Maybe we need a lot more mandatory sentences for things instead of the seemingly subjective sentencing, between very wide goalposts, that we are getting?

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brooksby replied to Yorkshire wallet | 6 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

I know of someone who got 12 month ban and a fine for dangerous, doing 139!! on a b-road. 

Maybe we need a lot more mandatory sentences for things instead of the seemingly subjective sentencing, between very wide goalposts, that we are getting?

Maybe set a minimum sentence which is far closer to what we'd expect the sentence to be, and then the actual range available only goes up from there...?

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BehindTheBikesheds replied to Yorkshire wallet | 6 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

I know of someone who got 12 month ban and a fine for dangerous, doing 139!! on a b-road. 

Maybe we need a lot more mandatory sentences for things instead of the seemingly subjective sentencing, between very wide goalposts, that we are getting?

I don't know what the policing is like now on the roads with respect to different scenarios relating to speed and environment but ...

When I was young and stupid (25 years ago) my first ever points were for averaging 96mph on the M180, Sunday afternoon, 1 other car in 3 lanes as far as the eye could see, pretty much a straight road. I was to listening to the rugby commentary and must of got a bit carried away with the right foot. Bang to rights but I got 3 points/£60(?) fine which I accepted at the side of the road and a fairly gentle ticking off. I'm pretty certain that if I'd have been doing that speed in any other scenario I'd have been looking at a bigger slap on the wrist.

Comparatively speaking the speeds shown in the footage on those types of roads are utterly insane, there's next to zero margin for error as shown by the off. Farm gate and an animal escaping, pedestrians exiting from a bridleway, parents with kids on bikes or club out for a ride, broken down vehicle around a bend etc would have given them no chance to react and to avoid collision.

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Grahamd | 6 years ago
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Suspended prison sentences for speeding up to 118mph, meanwhile the off duty paramedic caught doing 116mph in North Wales gets away with just 6 points and a fine, keeping his licence after exceptional hardship and loss of job bollocks.

 

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zero_trooper | 6 years ago
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This raises a good point. Presumably the rider was injured, so the police would have to investigate. However, no-one was killed so it would not have been a 'thorough' investigation. So why examine the helmet cam footage? On their own initiative.

As opposed to cyclists pro-actively (or should that be re-actively?) going to the police with camera footage?

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BehindTheBikesheds | 6 years ago
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Double standards, they do wjhatever they like when they like. Just look at how certain crimes that effect their own are followed through and prosecuted far above the actual crimes even with next to no evidence.

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