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Standard Team Giro Updates

I had opened up a public league for Standard players. The league is called Standard Players and its ID is 76269  1 Now I'm using this thread to follow the action on the Standard side of things!  1

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Here we go, Giro Final Standings!  1

Exciting race but no surprises for the final day:

Yesterday's Rank Today's Rank Team Owner

2 2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler
4 4 Eyeballs Out richardk9
5 7 rock n rouleurs matanhale
8 6 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave
12 13 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw
15 16 DAMS-Lidl mafioso
16 29 specialneeds specialneeds
17 73 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos
20 20 EPO Ealing gruenstein
21 23 petiagos petiagos
23 24 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter

No surprise either in that the Top Jumps into the Top 25 were Premium Players. anita (ZACATON), who jumped 8 spots into No. 14 and johnny2names (johnny2names) jumped 11 spots into No. 19.

Well, brace yourselves for withdrawal symptoms!  1

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ray silvester replied to enrique | 11 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Here we go, Giro Final Standings!  1

Exciting race but no surprises for the final day:

Yesterday's Rank Today's Rank Team Owner

2 2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler
4 4 Eyeballs Out richardk9
5 7 rock n rouleurs matanhale
8 6 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave
12 13 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw
15 16 DAMS-Lidl mafioso
16 29 specialneeds specialneeds
17 73 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos
20 20 EPO Ealing gruenstein
21 23 petiagos petiagos
23 24 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter

No surprise either in that the Top Jumps into the Top 25 were Premium Players. anita (ZACATON), who jumped 8 spots into No. 14 and johnny2names (johnny2names) jumped 11 spots into No. 19.

Well, brace yourselves for withdrawal symptoms!  1

PolishDave managed an upward jump of 2 places despite a maximum of 4 paltry transfers?

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enrique replied to ray silvester | 11 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

... PolishDave managed an upward jump of 2 places despite a maximum of 4 paltry transfers?

Pretty cool, huh? He brought in Mezgec for Di Luca on Stage 20, then he brought in Nizzolo, Viviani and Cavendish for Stage 21! Awesome play!  1 And no penalty transfers on the last day!  1

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chiv30 | 11 years ago
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29 points can easily be found with a gamble or two and the gamble paying off , in the ITT I gained 73 points on the people above me .

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enrique replied to chiv30 | 11 years ago
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chiv30 wrote:

29 points can easily be found with a gamble or two and the gamble paying off , in the ITT I gained 73 points on the people above me .

I'd be thrilled if that happened... But how many surprisies can a sprint finish have in it? I can't think of many, but I'd ceratinly love to see one! And how many risks will someone in the Top 25 be willing to take and lose their position so late in the game? I guess that's the dilemma at the end of a Grand Tour... Do I go for the gamble or do I play conservatively to not lose position?... I'm happy you got that boost on the ITT but I think ITT's are a little harder to predict than sprints... But I'd love a surprise today!  1

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Ok, here we go:

Overall Ranking Team Owner Total Score Points Behind No. 1

2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler 2458 29
4 Eyeballs Out richardk9 2399 88
5 rock n rouleurs matanhale 2386 101
8 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave 2371 116
12 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw 2331 156
15 DAMS-Lidl mafioso 2318 169
16 specialneeds specialneeds 2315 172
17 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos 2311 176
20 EPO Ealing gruenstein 2306 181
21 petiagos petiagos 2304 183
23 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter 2303 184

Barring a major mental breakdown by Premium Player presenrumu08, or a completely unpredictable outcome in tomorrow's stage, his team, Atle Kvasvoll, should win the competition.

His nearest competition, tony kappler, with team Mountain Renegade is a good 29 points behind. There's no way anyone can pull it off. Or is there? His other closest rival is Premium Player karlake2 with his team karlake2, a good 53 points behind. Who saved more transfers? Well, it probably won't matter. I can't imagine but that presenrumu08 will be the proud and well earned owner of a new Bianchi Via Nerone. Outstanding play!  1 (Now I can only hope for a complete surprise!)

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Last day (before the last stage!) Standard Player Standings:

2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler
4 Eyeballs Out richardk9
5 rock n rouleurs matanhale
7 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave
12 specialneeds specialneeds
14 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter
15 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw
16 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos
16= petiagos petiagos
18 DAMS-Lidl mafioso
21 EPO Ealing gruenstein
24 Chute Collective Chute Collective

12 Standard Players in the Top 25

Wow, we'll see tomorrow what happens... Huge ineherent advantage for Premium Players, because they can bring in 1, 2, 3 or more sprinters (any more might not be necessary, even if they're available!) without incurring any Penalty transfers, and no Standard player has an advantage to absorb that point blow, but (!), you never know!

(It's not about the bike! It's about playing the game!  3 )

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Here's todays' update on Standard Teams in the Top 25:

2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler 2095 1
3 Pharmacie Roulant Jonas Lorenzen 2073 1
4 karlake2 karlake2 2043 3
5 rock n rouleurs matanhale 2029 2
6 Eyeballs Out richardk9 2020 3
7 Nut Buggets Chris Bevan 2013 2
8 Gilbert and Sullivan Gilbert and Sullivan 2012 2
9 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave 2007 1
10 Punctured homer187 1995 1
11 Dave's Dawdlers davidh 1994 3
12 pclark007 pclark007 1992
13 petiagos petiagos 1977 3
14 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw 1965 17
15 Chute Collective Chute Collective 1959 3
16 Rangaedge Rangaedge 1952 8
17 lurkingx lurkingx 1951
18 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter 1947 5
19 specialneeds specialneeds 1944 3
20 The Greasby Wheelers Nickbirtwistle 1943 8
21 Black Cat Allan Bremner 1941 2
22 Gmancervelo Gmancervelo 1939 3
23 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos 1936 8
24 EPO Ealing gruenstein 1932 9
24= Max Kraft Oskar Torpedo 1932 19

Woh! There 24 (!) Standard Teams in the Top 25! Wow!  39

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simon F replied to enrique | 11 years ago
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Woh! There 24 (!) Standard Teams in the Top 25! Wow!  39

???  7 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 17, 20, 21, 22 are all premium. 13 of top 25 are standard

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enrique replied to simon F | 11 years ago
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???  7 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 17, 20, 21, 22 are all premium. 13 of top 25 are standard

It took me a while to figure this one out... I just realized that what I was doing was going over to the overall standings then hitting the "Show/Hide Premium Teams" button and copying the list here... When I pasted I didn't realize it was pasting the Premium Teams too... So, you're right!  1

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enrique | 11 years ago
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There are some amazing players in the Standard ranks! : ) Wow!

Here's today's ranking of the top Standard players in the Top 25 overall:

1 Mountain Renegade tony kappler
3 rock n rouleurs matanhale
8 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave
9 Eyeballs Out richardk9
10 petiagos petiagos
13 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter
15 Meagre Farmer Otto Tom Amos
15 Indurains lungs Samacollins
18 Chute Collective Chute Collective
19 DAMS-Lidl mafioso
21 Velodux Campagnolo
22 specialneeds specialneeds
24= Rangaedge Rangaedge

14 Standard Players in the Top 25. And the No. 1 spot in the competition? Held by a Standard player (tony kappler). Pretty amazing!  1

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ray silvester | 11 years ago
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I think they'll have to focus on the sprint OR the uphill ITT

difficult to do both

If i was standard(or shall we say squeaky)I'd put all my eggs in the climbers bar Cav and Viv for the sprint

good luck guys  19

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Well, this could be hell week for Standard players... or not... Some of you may have had 6 transfers for today's stage and if you didn't use 4 they went to waste... I'm dying to see how Standard Players do this week! Good luck!  1

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enrique | 11 years ago
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At the end of April I had written:

enrique wrote:

...I guess it would probably take a miracle for anyone playing Standard to win in this scenario....

But (!) to my surprise (!)  1 :

These were the highest ranking Standard Players in the Giro overall competition on May 15:

3 petiagos petiagos 1155
4 Pharmacie Roulant Jonas Lorenzen 1144 2
5 Eyeballs Out richardk9 1135
6 Mountain Renegade tony kappler 1127 2
7 Gilbert and Sullivan Gilbert and Sullivan 1124
8 karlake2 karlake2 1122 3
9 ZACATON anita 1115
10 Indurains lungs Samacollins 1105 7
11 rock n rouleurs matanhale 1099 8
12 Team Velosive Sebbe87 1094 4
12= Rangaedge Rangaedge 1094 11
14 Team Sky Blue NeilG83 1092 8
15 mischelka mischelka 1086 5
15= Hinaults Uno Hinaults Uno 1086 3
17 Eds Ripley Riders Eds Ripley Riders 1084 11
18 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter 1083
19 ProVelo ricycle 1080 4
20 pclark007 pclark007 1076 12
21 Got Milk TheDoctor 1074 5
21= CPT RACERS KIEF77 1074 7
23 Lampre-LSD ewen 1073 4
24 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave 1072 9
25 Klefbet.com kleff 1071 1

Pretty impressive!  1

That was on May 15. Back then, there were, if I counted right, 23 Standard Players in the Top 25 of the Giro overall competition.

Then this was the list of those Standard Players on May 20, just 5 days later:

Overall Ranking Team Team Owner
2 Mountain Renegade tony kappler
4 rock n rouleurs matanhale
7 petiagos petiagos
8 Polski Grifter Club PolishDave
11 Guybrush Threepwood 2MeterPeter
13 Eyeballs Out richardk9
14 Chute Collective Chute Collective
15 Indurains lungs Samacollins
17 Rangaedge Rangaedge
20 BaggyBoy999 BaggyBoy999
23 Leipheimer not weeks memories of meseeuw

11 Standrad Players in the Top 25. Mountain Renegade (tony kappler) is sitting pretty at No. 2 in the overall and rock n rouleurs (matanhale) is at No. 4.

Not that I've ever "seen" them here on the forum, but a hat's off to them!  36

I'm looking forward to seeing if a Standard Player can win the competition. It would completely debunk my theory that Premium Members have a huge advantage over Standard Players, but I'd be mightily impressed with the smarts, strategy and logic of these players! Thanks for a thrilling ride!  1 And good luck!  1

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