'Vigilante' cyclist Dave Sherry knocked off bike by lorry driver (+ link to video)

fenix wrote:

Are the police tracking down the lorry ? The stories didn't mention this ?

Hopefully. The numberplate is digitally obscured, so presumably it's identifiable. Tracing the driver should be quick and easy.

Looks like a slam-dunk case of dangerous driving to me.

Still, according to Police stats, this sort of thing only happens to someone once every 20 years, on average. So, cycling is "reasonably safe".

burtthebike wrote:

I hope there is enough data on the vid to catch and prosecute this driver.  Probably rushing to meet his unrealistic delivery schedule.  Wasn't there one company which produced schedules which meant that drivers had to break the speed limit to meet them?

One of the 'white goods' companies allows two minutes to deliver a fridge and take away the old one...

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

a vigilante is someone who is self-appointed to protect the interests of a community. They don't necessarily try to enforce the law themselves.

ConcordeCX wrote:

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

a vigilante is someone who is self-appointed to protect the interests of a community. They don't necessarily try to enforce the law themselves.

Definitions I've looked at suggest that enforcement is part of the definition. Otherwise surely we'd all be vigilantes for just reporting crimes we see? And I'd be a pothole vigilante too.

Duncann wrote:

ConcordeCX wrote:

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

a vigilante is someone who is self-appointed to protect the interests of a community. They don't necessarily try to enforce the law themselves.

Definitions I've looked at suggest that enforcement is part of the definition. Otherwise surely we'd all be vigilantes for just reporting crimes we see? And I'd be a pothole vigilante too.

I agree.  I wouldn't say DS is 'undertaking law enforcement...without legal authority'.

"Vigilante.  A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate."  Oxford Dictionaries

dassie wrote:

Duncann wrote:

ConcordeCX wrote:

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

a vigilante is someone who is self-appointed to protect the interests of a community. They don't necessarily try to enforce the law themselves.

Definitions I've looked at suggest that enforcement is part of the definition. Otherwise surely we'd all be vigilantes for just reporting crimes we see? And I'd be a pothole vigilante too.

 

I agree.  I wouldn't say DS is 'undertaking law enforcement...without legal authority'.

"Vigilante.  A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate."  Oxford Dictionaries

 

 

I agree. Is he a member of a self-appointed group and does he need legal authority to 'defend' himself? All he's done is present evidence of wrong doing for the police to enforce (possibly/hopefully).

He's hardly tracked down the perps and slashed their cars' tyres, burned down their garages and stuck a pitchfork through their right (accelerator) foot. Now that would be vigilantism. And illegal

zero_trooper wrote:

dassie wrote:

Duncann wrote:

ConcordeCX wrote:

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

a vigilante is someone who is self-appointed to protect the interests of a community. They don't necessarily try to enforce the law themselves.

Definitions I've looked at suggest that enforcement is part of the definition. Otherwise surely we'd all be vigilantes for just reporting crimes we see? And I'd be a pothole vigilante too.

 

I agree.  I wouldn't say DS is 'undertaking law enforcement...without legal authority'.

"Vigilante.  A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate."  Oxford Dictionaries

 

 

 

I agree. Is he a member of a self-appointed group and does he need legal authority to 'defend' himself? All he's done is present evidence of wrong doing for the police to enforce (possibly/hopefully).

He's hardly tracked down the perps and slashed their cars' tyres, burned down their garages and stuck a pitchfork through their right (accelerator) foot. Now that would be vigilantism. And illegal

Which of course we would not condone ...

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Why do people suggest he's a vigilante?  What laws does he enforce himself?

He doesn't enforce any laws.  He captures footage of people breaking laws and submits it to the people who do enforce the law.

And then he finds that the people who are supposed to enforce the law usually can't be bothered.

I interviewed Dave Sherry once and found him to be extremely frank and forthright - he basically has no leniency either for the incredibly poor standard of driving or the lazy inept law enforcement that he often encounters. Personally I understand his zero tolerence attitude but it's what makes him "the most hated cyclist in Britain".  In this case he has narrowly avoided a far more serious injury - this truck driver should be removed from the roads immediately.

alansmurphy wrote:

"Shit me not"

 

Must be the fastest ambulance response of all time, and look at the moton trying to get thru!

No, that was for a mate of mine who rode his motorbike into a right turning ambulance and was promptly scooped up and put in the back.