Women are weaker?

Dnnnnnn wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

peted76 wrote:

What's an uberman? Is that german for Superman?  

It's a taxi driver, there's an app you can order them with.

Superman is driving taxis in Herne Hill? Times are tough.

The Daily Planet centralised their newsroom, and Clark Kent lost his job.

brooksby wrote:

The Daily Planet centralised their newsroom, and Clark Kent lost his job.

Even had to go South of the River. Harsh.

Fiona Kolbinger won the Transcontinental race beating the field male & female. Ubermensch is the term coined by Neitzsche as humanity's goal or ideal.

Ultra distance ist the only place where mental resistance, tolerance to sleep deprivation and such like can be more important than physical ability, and thus  the best women can beat the best men.

I think he's feeling a bit cross that he was quite rightly called out for sexism yesterday with all his comparisons of expensive bikes to frocks, shoes and handbags, so he's trying somewhat dubiously to re-burnish his feminist credentials.

Bee in cycle helmet. Cugel seems to have slightly contradictory views on the subject. (Being fair who doesn't have a nosegay of clashing fruity ideas in their "noggin"?).

So there are probably the same prejudices that everyone gets installed in them in our society (and more for "men of a certain age" - or maybe just "most men"?).  That is the mental association of e.g. "frocks / handbags" / "feminine" / "female" / not most "cyclists"*.

Then there's the feminist perspective that women actually could do far more if men weren't holding them back or mentally writing them off.  Unequal opportunities and indoctrination (both sexes) making a radical difference in outcomes.  I'd certainly agree that is the case.

Where we depart is the "and you can extend that to e.g. facts of biology - if men didn't think that elite male athletes were faster than female elite althletes we might see females breaking the male records".  Given sports that weren't invented yesterday I think that is extremely questionable.  There are a few areas where "mind over matter" is not relevant.

Of course, Cugel could be correct if you allow for millenia of evolution / genetic manipulation or body modification / systematically training some children (female) while restraining, starving or crippling others (male).  And indeed most of those have been practiced (in different times and places) in human societies.  There's actually little new in our brave new world...

* The latter is statistically correct in the UK.  Note apparently more women are cycling than men in NL though.  I've no idea but suspect most viewers of this site and probably posters here are not female.  (I'm aware of a couple of posters who said they were women).  Obviously this is indeed "culture" and not a "natural law".

Was that a Cugel pastiche? Sorry, I drifted off a bit there. 

Glad someone wasn't paying attention!