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Want to ride just about anywhere? Gravel and adventure bikes are the type of bike that you need
  • Descended from touring bikes, endurance bikes and cyclo-cross bikes, gravel/adventure bikes are go-almost-anywhere machines for riders who want to explore and race on dirt roads, and ride Tarmac to get there.

  • Disc brakes allow frame clearances for fatter tyres, making for a bike that can cope with a very wide range of surfaces and that points & laughs at potholes.

  • With even the tiniest lanes infested with motor traffic, gravel bikes get you properly away from dangerous drivers.

  • At the adventure end of the spectrum, these are the rugged successors to traditional long-distance touring bikes.

  • Some manufacturers are exploring short-travel suspension and 650B wheels to improve comfort and traction.

Gravel/adventure bikes have gone very quickly from the latest craze to a significant part of most bike companies' ranges. These bikes are tailored for long-distance comfort, with disc brakes, big tyre clearance and geometry honed to excel both on the road and off, whether it's a gravel, forest or dirt track.

Why you might want a gravel or adventure bike

Their adaptability, versatility and ruggedness makes them the perfect commuter bike, an ideal light touring or audax bike, a great winter training bike, or simply one bike that can tackle any sort of terrain you care to take it along. If ever there was a case for the one perfect bike for the British non-racing cyclist, then an adventure bike is probably it.

The US gravel racing scene hasn’t been much emulated in the UK yet, but the style of bike has piqued the interest of British cyclists. The idea of the bigger tyres and relaxed geometry that promotes extra comfort when the going gets rough and bumpy is very attractive given the generally poor state of repair of UK roads. Let's be honest, in many places they're almost gravel anyway.

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They can be ridden anywhere, these bikes, on the road and off it. The idea of adventure (or allroad, roadplus and enduroad as some people are calling this style of bike) is also finding fans, with the ability to dart down a bridleway or over the plain or along a fireroad to mix up a regular road ride appealing to cyclists keen to get away from the congested streets and into the wide open countryside.

Of course, the idea of riding a road bike across any sort of terrain, be it smoothly paved roads or rough and bumpy gravel tracks, woodland trails laced with roots or edge-of-field bridleways, is nothing new really. Road cyclists have been doing it since the dawn of the bicycle. How do you think cyclo-cross was invented? Gravel and adventure bikes, though, are better suited to the demands of on and off-road riding. They split the difference between an endurance road bike and a cyclo-cross bike, with space for bigger tyres than an endurance bike and geometry better suited to road riding than a cyclo-cross bike.

Don't confuse a gravel and adventure bike with an endurance road bike like the Cannondale Synapse or Saracen Avro. While they do look similar, the key difference is in the bigger tyres the former accepts and the modified geometry. It's worth taking a look at our roundup of endurance road bikes for examples of bikes that come close to a gravel and adventure bike.

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Call them what you want, these bikes are all about having fun and exploring the beautiful countryside we’re fortunate to be surrounded by. You could be riding along smooth tarmac one minute, then hurtling down a tree-lined bridleway the next, then trucking along a fireroad in deepest Wales the next. And that really appeals to a growing number of British cyclists.

What to look for in a gravel and adventure bike

For a start, gravel and adventure bikes aren’t simply rebranded cyclo-cross bikes. While there’s no single blueprint that adventure bikes follow, they generally sit between an endurance road bike and a cyclo-cross race bike, if anything leaning more towards the former. They’re designed with longer wheelbases, so they’re stable on the road and when riding over an unpredictable surface like gravel, and provide comfort over long distances. The geometry is more relaxed than a race bike, the head angle slacker and the head tube often taller. The bottom bracket will usually be a little lower than a cyclo-cross bike.

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They all feature disc brakes. By removing the rim brake caliper you can easily design a frame and fork able to accommodate bigger tyres. Disc brakes, especially hydraulic discs, offer more power which provides more confidence when riding off-road and are useful in mixed conditions.

Gravel and adventure bikes will have space for bigger tyres, but how big varies from brand to brand. Endurance road bikes go up to about 32mm as a general rule, but gravel and adventure road bikes increase the clearance up to as much as 55mm. That provides a vast range of tyre choice options, including many rugged touring and cyclocross tyres, as well as road slicks, so you've got plenty of options for setting the bike up for your riding demands. In some cases you can even fit 29er mountain bike tyres.

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Tyre choice very much depends on the riding you want to do and the terrain in your local riding spot. There’s nothing to stop you fitting light 25mm or 28mm tyres if you want it to be fast on the road. Or you could use a 35mm treaded tyre if you want to include some gravel and dirt paths in your rides. We’re seeing more tyre choice as well to go with the bikes, such as the Panaracer Gravel King, to name one example of the growing selection aimed at gravel and adventure riding.

While this new breed of bike has stemmed from the gravel racing scene, manufacturers have been wise to cotton on to the do-it-all appeal, and many equip the bikes with eyelets for fitting racks and mudguards. That means you could build up the perfect winter or commuting bike, or add a rack for some light touring and explore further afield. With events like the Transcontinental Race proving popular it’s this sort of bike that is becoming the go-to choice for long distance bikepacking or lightweight touring, where you want a rugged bike able to tackle any sort of terrain you might encounter, the comfortable riding position a bonus when going the distance.

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Some bikes for your consideration

Mason ISO — £3,490

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Sometimes a bike comes along that completely delivers in capabilities, looks and build quality. The Mason ISO - In Search Of -  is one of those bikes. With an Italian hand-built frame, and a superb level of finish and detail it nonchalantly comes along and redefines what a drop-bar bike is capable of being.

This is the sort of bike where you feel at home from the very first ride. It's a bike you ride in, rather than on; you feel integral to it. Its geometry sits you in an effective pedalling position and it handles gracefully and instinctively. It also encourages outright speed. You often find yourself aiming into corners or rooty sections off-road, at speeds that you have to brake and scrub speed. It’s properly inspiring and the only thing that slows you is your confidence in holding on.

Read our review of the Mason ISO

Bergamont Grandurance 6 — £1,349

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The Bergamont Grandurance 6 is a well-equipped aluminium gravel or ‘all-road’ bike. It’s decent value and has a striking paint job, if not paired with the most progressive geometry. This is a classic endurance road bike with allowances for gravel tyres, mudguards and racks, and for the price it makes a great weekend gravel adventure bike that will commute with ease on the weekdays too.

Read our review of the Bergamont Grandurance 6
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Lauf True Grit — from £3,849

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Lauf's True Grit shuns the usual versatility of most gravel bikes for a pin-sharp focus on racing, with their unique leaf-sprung fork taking centre stage on a bike that's quite unlike most others out there. As a complete package for going very quickly on dirt roads, it's hard to beat.

Read our review of the Lauf True Grit

Nukeproof Digger Pro — £1,849.99

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Rhe Nukeproof Digger Pro's chunky WTB Sendero tyres, dropper post, wide handlebar and short stem ensure it really shines on the dirt with great handling poise that’ll have you ripping, popping and sending in no time. Nukeproof is a mountain bike company and has brought this experience into its all-new second-generation Digger Pro, with a lot of influence from the mountain bike world evident in its design and specification.

For razzing about in the woods, linking up bridleways, commuting to the office or just plain old road riding, the Digger Pro is very capable. You could easily chuck it into the lactic acid hell of a cyclocross race or eye up one of the growing number of adventure events like Dirty Reiver say. It’s also an excellent option for commuting especially if you want to take the more interesting route. And if you had a second set of wheels and tyres you’d have all the bases easily covered.

Read our review of the Nukeproof Digger Pro

Fairlight Cycles Secan — £2,649.00

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In taking a plethora of tyre widths, the new Secan – the latest model from young British company Fairlight Cycles – can be pressed into action as a rugged off-road bikepacking bike or shod with wide slicks, mudguards and racks for the daily commute or multi-day tour.

The Secan may not be the lightest option – steel never will be – but it doesn't lack the performance that makes it a really fun and exciting bike to ride. The ride quality and the smoothness on rough terrain more than compensate as well. I'm a sucker for a good steel road bike, which is why I've always owned one, and the Secan offers that unmistakable balance of comfort, unflappable smoothness and assured handling you expect from a very well designed steel frame.

Read our review of the Fairlight Cycles Secan

Whyte Glencoe — £999

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Whyte's Glencoe combines an aluminium frame with 650B tyres and a very different approach to geometry to provide a supremely relaxed, comfortable and confidence-inspiring ride that excels on rough roads and fast descents. Swing a leg over the Glencoe and the first thing you notice is the massively wide handlebar. Within a few miles, and especially after a couple of descents, it becomes very natural and comfortable. I was bombing down all my favourite descents with more speed and less nervousness than any endurance or gravel bike I've tested recently. The wide bar gives you plenty of control through the bends and despite what you might think about the short stem, there is absolutely no twitchiness to the steering, it's all very calm and relaxed.

Read our review of the Whyte Glencoe
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Orro Terra C 105 Hydro — £2,099.99

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The new Orro Terra C 105 Hydro is a stable carbon bike that's quick on the road, with the strength and confident handling required for heading on to gravel and other hard-packed trails with the appropriate tyres. Mudguard and rack mounts make this a versatile option that can cope with everything from commuting to adventure biking.

Read our review of the Orro Terra C 105 Hydro
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Canyon Grail CF SL 8.0 SL — £2,549

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Canyon doesn't rush things. It studied the disc brake market before finally taking the plunge on its road bikes and now it has entered the gravel scene with the Grail, and boy was it worth the wait. The Grail CF SL 8.0 SL is light, nimble, fun… and that handlebar – laugh as much as you like, it's a clever design that brings a lot to the ride, especially if you want to go fast on a constantly shifting surface. What a machine!

Read our review of the Canyon Grail CF SL 8.0 SL

Merida Silex — £1,000-£3,500

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The Silex is a completely new platform for Merida, driven by some intriguing ideas. Taking a cue from current mountain bike thinking, Silexes (Silices?) are long out front compared to almost all other gravel bikes and at 71° have a shallower head angle. The idea is to make the bike more stable over rough surfaces, and our first impression from the Silex 9000 (above) that we currently have on test is that it works very well indeed.

Read more about the Merida Silex range

Reilly Gradient — £2,999

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South Coast-based Reilly Cycleworks has produced the Gradient as a do-everything adventure and gravel bike, with a lovingly finished titanium frame and smart specification in this £2,799 complete bike. It provides a ride that is as lovely as the bike is to look at, with space for wide tyres for heading off into the wilderness or adding dirt and gravel roads to your route, and a high level of refinement.

The Gradient provides a lovely ride. It's composed and comfortable, the titanium frame providing a sublime balance of stiffness and comfort. The carbon fork and oversized head tube gives the handling a crispness and it changes direction quickly when you want it to.

Read our review of the Reilly Gradient

Ribble CGR — from £999

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Cross, Gravel, Road, that's what the CGR initials stand for on Ribble's all-rounder. A disc brake-equipped, mudguard-shod 'do a bit of everything' machine that makes a lot of sense for the rider who doesn't always want to stick to the tarmac. Thankfully, this jack of all trades is no master of none.

The CGR is a very easy bike to ride thanks to some neutral and balanced handling. This might make it sound dull but it's far from it, especially when you go off-road.

With a long wheelbase, mounts for mudguards and racks plus being designed for disc brakes, the Ribble is likely to see a lot of use in the wet and cold of winter where the road surface is often less than ideal. It's a bike that's dependable and trustworthy when it comes to the handling.

Read our review of the Ribble CGR

Giant ToughRoad SLR GX — from £899

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Giant bills its new-for-2018 ToughRoad SLR GX range as "the perfect machine for tackling imperfect roads". With an aluminium frame that can accommodate up to 50mm tyres (and actually comes with tyres that size) it can certainly take bigger tyres than most. That's a big difference from the Contend and Defy bikes that only take up to 28mm tyres, so it don't fall into the gravel and adventure bike category . The ToughRoad SLR GX has a carbon fibre fork with disc brakes, a wide ergo-shaped handlebar and full-length cable housing to keep crud out. There’s even an integrated down tube mudguard to keep splatter out of your face.

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Genesis Croix de Fer, Tour de Fer & Vagabond — from £1,099.99

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British brand Genesis was doing adventure road bikes long before it became the latest trend, and the most recent changes to the Croix de Fer - a lower bottom bracket and taller head tube - took it further away from its cyclo-cross roots and closer to an adventure bike. And is there any adventure bigger than riding around the world? That's something that Vin Cox did in 2010, setting a new record in the process, aboard a Croix de Fer. Steel frames feature across the range with a choice of steel or carbon forks, plus disc brakes, external cable routing and eyelets for racks and mudguards.

Find a Genesis dealer
Read our review of the Genesis Croix de Fer

Specialized Diverge — from £849.99

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Introduced in 2015, the Specialized Diverge is a series of adventure and gravel bikes with space for up to 35mm tyres. Production bikes are specced with 25mm and 28mm tyres, though, as Specialized apparently — and probably rightly — believes they'll get most of their use on the road. Carbon or aluminium framed, depending on price, the top-end models have thru-axle dropouts for extra stiffness, but all models get mudguard and rack mounts so they’ll double up as a touring or commuting bikes.

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Raleigh Mustang — from £640

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We really liked the Raleigh Mustang Elite when we tested it. It does everything a regular road bike does, but it does it with the added comfort of the big tyres. It's part of Raleigh's three-bike range of gravel/adventure bikes and a great example of the booming category. Its 6061 double butted aluminium frame is designed for both on and off road riding so if you're getting tempted by your local dirt roads and trails, or a canal towpath commute, it'll take it in its stride.

Along with a carbon fork with through-axle and TRP Spyre disc brakes, the 2018 version, above has SRAM's Apex 1X transmission with a single 40-tooth chainring and wide-range 11-42 11-speed cassette. It's the ultimate Keep It Simple, Stupid derailleur gear system and just the thing for a do-it-all bike.

Read our review of the Raleigh Mustang Elite
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GT Grade — from £799.99

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The GT Grade is available with an aluminium or carbon frame (which features a frame design and carbon layup designed to provide comfort in the rough) with disc brakes and space for up to 35mm tyres. You could fit a slick tyre in there or a treaded cyclo-cross tyre if you want to inject more dirt and gravel into your riding. The Grade has versatility too, with mudguard and rack mounts neatly incorporated into the frame and fork. The top models have a carbon thru-axle fork for added stiffness.

We like the 105-equipped model for its combination of Shimano's excellent gears with TRP's cable-actuated hydraulic brakes. If you're looking at the Cycle to Work Scheme sub-£1,000 level, check out its Tiagra-equipped stablemate.

Read our review of the 2015 GT Grade Alloy Tiagra
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Kinesis Tripster ATR £1,850 (frame only)

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ATR stands for Adventure-Tour-Race and it's a bike built for adventure riding, cyclo-cross, touring and sportives. Kinesis build the frame from custom drawn 3AL/2.5V titanium tubing, with geometry featuring a low bottom bracket, long head tube and relaxed head angle, something that all these adventure bikes have in common. There’s space between the rear stays and carbon fork for up to 40mm tyres (but we’ve comfortably fitted wider) along with full-length 45mm mudguards, and there are rack mounts too.

Read our review of the Kinesis Tripster ATR here
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Surly Straggler — from £1,750

Surly’s Straggler is a sturdily built and eminently adaptable steel all-rounder. It boasts a handful of interesting design touches, an unusual amount of tyre room, plentiful luggage rack mounts and a very comfy ride. It has a strong bias towards rough roads and trail use, but weight-weenies should look away now.

Read our review of the Surly Straggler
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The Light Blue Robinson Rival 1x — £1,700

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The Robinson, from British company The Light Blue, offers a really smooth ride, with steady handling and tyres that provide a good balance of fast road riding pace and off-road grip. In this SRAM Rival 1x build with cyclo-cross tyres it's an ideal all-terrain bike, at home on the road or tackling more challenging countryside terrain, or for just tackling rough roads in comfort. The Light Blue also offer a Shimano 105 build of the Robinson which they describe as an audax/light tourer.

The Robinson has very assured handling, not darting or flicking about the road. It's more measured than a race bike, with a long wheelbase producing the sort of stability that makes it a very easy bike to ride along back roads and over more challenging trails.

There's a lot to like about a good steel frame with a steel fork, and the Robinson doesn't disappoint. There's a suppleness you just don't get from stiffer carbon and aluminium rivals. The skinny steel tubes go a long way to isolating you from the small vibrations that can intrude into the ride quality, and, combined with the 30mm tyres, result in an ideal bike for making you feel at ease on many of the poorly maintained roads around the UK.

Read our review of the The Light Blue Robinson Rival 1x

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Norco Search — from £1,080

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Canadian firm Norco is best known for its mountain bikes, and its Search bikes have been designed as adventure bikes able to tackle a multitude of paved or unpaved surfaces. Combining a steel or carbon frame and ‘endurance’ geometry with disc brakes and thru-axles at both wheels, it’s a bike ticking a lot of boxes. Comfort has been factored in with a 27.2mm seatpost and bowed seatstays, arcing chainstays and a tapered seat tube, and the carbon fibre models come with 650B wheels.

The 2019 range kicks off at £1,080 with the Search XR STL Apex and peaks with the £3,350 Search XR C Force above.

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Shand Stoater — from £1,995

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The British made Shand Stoater offers a steel frame and fork that has been designed for “the pure enjoyment of go-anywhere riding… refined enough to be your main road bike but rugged enough for off road trails and singletrack, it could be the only bike you ever need,” according to the company. It’s available in several builds, we tested one with a Rohloff hub and Gates Belt drive costing £3,595, but other builds are available. Tyre clearance is good enough for 45mm tyres and the frame is decked out with rack and mudguard eyelets and three sets of bottle cage mounts.

Read our review of the Shand Stoater

Mason Bokeh Force — £3,100

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The Mason Bokeh is a highly capable adventure bike with a feature-packed aluminium frame, splendid aesthetics, and handling that ensures it's as at home on the road as it is on the trail.

The Bokeh combines an aluminium frame and carbon fork with all the key ingredients of an adventure bike, including wide tyres, disc brakes, thru-axles, relaxed geometry and mounts for mudguards and racks. The Bokeh goes the extra mile with a front dynamo mount, third bottle cage mount, 700C and 650B wheel size compatibility and fully internal cable routing.

As lovely as the Bokeh undoubtedly looks, its appearance is pointless if it's not backed by a high-quality ride. Fortunately, a high-quality ride the Bokeh most certainly does deliver. In a nutshell, it's a lovely bike to ride, whether on tarmac or gravel roads, or woodland byways.

Read our review of the Mason Bokeh Force

 
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ChetManley [95 posts] 2 years ago
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bornagainst wrote:

Sadly Jamis / Evans seemed to have stopped selling the Renegade Expert - the cheaper of the carbon bikes in the range. I've got one from a year or so back, still with hydro discs, thru axles, tubeless rims, mudguard mounts etc.  Bloody brilliant as a commuter/winter bike.. and half the price of the Elite model.  Very strange.

 

Fully agree with you - i bought a 2016 renegade expert for £1300 from evans, upgraded the wheelset to hunt four seasons and have a bike that's fantastic for endurance riding, a bit of cross and light touring.

Same, except I use Kinesis Crosslights and I've been messing with the drivetrain. Don't have much need for another bike.

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ChetManley [95 posts] 2 years ago
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Tojo wrote:

No mention of the Cube cross race pro.......!

Because it's a Cyclocross bike?

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T0ny [1 post] 2 years ago
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ChetManley wrote:
logomomo wrote:
bornagainst wrote:

Sadly Jamis / Evans seemed to have stopped selling the Renegade Expert - the cheaper of the carbon bikes in the range. I've got one from a year or so back, still with hydro discs, thru axles, tubeless rims, mudguard mounts etc.  Bloody brilliant as a commuter/winter bike.. and half the price of the Elite model.  Very strange.

 

Fully agree with you - i bought a 2016 renegade expert for £1300 from evans, upgraded the wheelset to hunt four seasons and have a bike that's fantastic for endurance riding, a bit of cross and light touring.

Same, except I use Kinesis Crosslights and I've been messing with the drivetrain. Don't have much need for another bike.

 

Same also! It seems these Jamis Renegades are quite popular bikes. Mine's a lovely ride, use it mainly for commuting and as well as my regular day rides. Great all round bike, with a tyre/wheel change it rides smooth and fast!

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Wafty Crank [30 posts] 2 years ago
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My next bike will be a gravel / adventure bike - do you have any plans to review the Pinnacle Arkose, Fairlight Faran or Orro Terra? 

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Daddylonglegs [34 posts] 2 years ago
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My gravel bike dates from 1999, well before the marketing teams had thought of the phrase. I had always had a yearning for a mountain bike with drops that would perform well on the road, (so no suspension!) I also wanted an off-road bike that was light and climbed fast and efficiently both on and off-road.

With the help of a friend and local bike shop owner who had similar ideas, I had built for me a steel frameset to take 26 wheels and up to 2.125 inch tyres. It was based on the compact, short seat tube geometry that Giant had begun to make popular around that time.

My first excursion was shortly after delivery when I took it to the Atlas Mountains for a week with a dozen mountain-bikers riding everything from tarmac and trails to gruelling, rocky descents. For that trip I used 2.125 Continental Explorer Pro tyres. The bike performed brilliantly.

Since then I have used the bike regularly, both on and off road. Fitted with road slicks it is very happy devouring the road miles as a tourer or a leisure bike for an afternoon spin in the country. A few years ago I had its v-brake bosses removed and replaced with disc mounts, necessitating a change to carbon forks. 

Yesterday I got back from a brilliant week in Ambleside in the Lake District riding the numorous rocky trails and hills the area offers. While I was there I dropped into the Sonder  Bikes store. It's gratifying to see nearly twenty years later what is effectively my bike being sold and marketed as the latest new bicycling innovation.

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JimboBaggins [20 posts] 1 year ago
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The OPEN UP wasn't in the list, but I can give positive reviews...  Mostly use 40mm tires for the rough roads in Azerbaijan where I now live, but mtb tires were great for blasting around Dorset where this pic was taken.  No mudguard mounts though so not really a traditional UK winter bike.  It's crazy light considering what it can do.  

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jasecd [554 posts] 1 year ago
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This is my new winter/gravel/adventure bike - I don't think they're selling them in the UK anymore, which is a shame as it's amazing fun. Not exactly subtle but puts a smile on my face every time I ride it.

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moonigan [3 posts] 1 year ago
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ianguignet wrote:

just buy a cross bike for fks sake...

Cross bikes dont have the tyre clearance and the geometry isnt suited for anything other than cyclocross, which is a suprise.

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rogermerriman [159 posts] 1 year ago
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moonigan wrote:
ianguignet wrote:

just buy a cross bike for fks sake...

Cross bikes dont have the tyre clearance and the geometry isnt suited for anything other than cyclocross, which is a suprise.

 

does depend on the CX some of the more commuter focused CX bikes have had more relaxed geometry for a while now, certinly before the gravel/all road/adventure road etc terms and bikes turned up.

 

I have a Norco Search it's not got huge clearances but to be honest I have a good MTB so in many ways thats fine and the choice in tyres above 33mm isnt that great.

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steviemarco [248 posts] 1 year ago
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Open, 3T, Rodeo Labs? These are my top 3 I'm sure a lot would agree then there Lynskey and Kenisis too. Come on road.cc.....

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TheSmallRing [15 posts] 1 year ago
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Arkose?

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Jimthebikeguy.com [264 posts] 1 year ago
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Things have moved on fast in this sector, so much so that the gt grade is barely competitive any more in terms of tire clearance, which is the main differentiator. Its a struggle to get anything bigger than 35mm in there.

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Marin92 [15 posts] 1 year ago
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The Thorn Raven would sit well in this group. Low maintenance go anywhere bike.

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TheSmallRing [15 posts] 1 year ago
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Arkose?

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Zermattjohn [346 posts] 1 year ago
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Wafty Crank wrote:

My next bike will be a gravel / adventure bike - do you have any plans to review the Pinnacle Arkose, Fairlight Faran or Orro Terra? 

There's plenty of reviews of the Arkose out there. It's not a "name" brand but you get a lot for your money on Evans own-brand bikes. I bought one 2 years ago, the one with Tiagra groupset and TRP Spyre (cable operated) disc brakes. It's a great frame/groupset combo, though the wheels weigh a bit so I bought some Hunt Gravel Disc (or something like that) with tubeless 35mm Scwalbe G-One tyres which shaved off about a kg.

It's a great bike for the money - I initially bought it to replace a fixie for a new, longer commute, but I used it so much I sold my traditional "winter" bike and go out on it a lot even in summer - getting off roads and away from the grind of traffic is great every now and then. It's not light, but it's got a geometry that suits long rides, and I love it. It's got mounts for mudguards and panniers, so it's a very versatile bike.

The only thing I'd change is the brakes. Cable operated disc brakes are absolutely rubbish compared to hydraulics - you'll be faffing about with them every week or so, the modulation compared even to decent rim brakes is poor, and in the time I've owned the bike I've changed the cables 3 times and the pads a few times searching for that elusive stopping power. For the extra few hundred quid I'd recommend a bike that comes with hydraulic brakes. I'm planning on just wearing everything out and replacing the lot with the new 105 hydraulic groupset - not a bad upgrade for about £500.

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HowardR [261 posts] 1 year ago
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No No No! If you every try to use anything other than (any sort of) disk brake you will NEVER be able to stop - And you will DIE!
- It must be true because I've read about it on the interweb.

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Zermattjohn [346 posts] 1 year ago
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HowardR wrote:

No No No! If you every try to use anything other than (any sort of) disk brake you will NEVER be able to stop - And you will DIE! - It must be true because I've read about it on the interweb.

I doubt you'll die. But the rims on your wheels will last a lot longer, particularly if you ride off road and/or in the wet. Disc brakes are pretty pointless on a "summer" bike - I rarely ride that one in the wet, never off road, so calipers are fine there. But for winter and off-road, disc brakes make sense.

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ken skuse [26 posts] 1 year ago
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Is it true that Prince Harry boasted to Meghan Markle, after first meeting her, that he owned a Kinesis CX Race in pale blue with 3ttt handlebars, a Fizik saddle,  amazing Redshift shock stem, and Avid Ultimate canti's?

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Wafty Crank [30 posts] 1 year ago
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Zermattjohn wrote:

There's plenty of reviews of the Arkose out there. It's not a "name" brand but you get a lot for your money on Evans own-brand bikes. I bought one 2 years ago, the one with Tiagra groupset and TRP Spyre (cable operated) disc brakes. It's a great frame/groupset combo, though the wheels weigh a bit so I bought some Hunt Gravel Disc (or something like that) with tubeless 35mm Scwalbe G-One tyres which shaved off about a kg.

It's a great bike for the money - I initially bought it to replace a fixie for a new, longer commute, but I used it so much I sold my traditional "winter" bike and go out on it a lot even in summer - getting off roads and away from the grind of traffic is great every now and then. It's not light, but it's got a geometry that suits long rides, and I love it. It's got mounts for mudguards and panniers, so it's a very versatile bike.

The only thing I'd change is the brakes. Cable operated disc brakes are absolutely rubbish compared to hydraulics - you'll be faffing about with them every week or so, the modulation compared even to decent rim brakes is poor, and in the time I've owned the bike I've changed the cables 3 times and the pads a few times searching for that elusive stopping power. For the extra few hundred quid I'd recommend a bike that comes with hydraulic brakes. I'm planning on just wearing everything out and replacing the lot with the new 105 hydraulic groupset - not a bad upgrade for about £500.

 

Thanks for the info - an Arkose 3 and a set of lighter wheels for road rides is top of the list atm

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heliuscc [13 posts] 10 months ago
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Since the Reilly Gradient was first reviewed the price has gone up by £600, or over 25%. In the last two weeks or so it seems to have gone up by £200, review says £2799 and price on site is £2999. How can price hikes like that be justified?

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don simon fbpe [2989 posts] 10 months ago
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heliuscc wrote:

Since the Reilly Gradient was first reviewed the price has gone up by £600, or over 25%. In the last two weeks or so it seems to have gone up by £200, review says £2799 and price on site is £2999. How can price hikes like that be justified?

Supply and demand?

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heliuscc [13 posts] 10 months ago
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don simon wrote:
heliuscc wrote:

Since the Reilly Gradient was first reviewed the price has gone up by £600, or over 25%. In the last two weeks or so it seems to have gone up by £200, review says £2799 and price on site is £2999. How can price hikes like that be justified?

Supply and demand?

Or blatant profiteering???

I’d love to buy British and support small frame builders etc., but if this is how they operate it just doesn’t make sense. 

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don simon fbpe [2989 posts] 10 months ago
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heliuscc wrote:
don simon wrote:
heliuscc wrote:

Since the Reilly Gradient was first reviewed the price has gone up by £600, or over 25%. In the last two weeks or so it seems to have gone up by £200, review says £2799 and price on site is £2999. How can price hikes like that be justified?

Supply and demand?

Or blatant profiteering???

I’d love to buy British and support small frame builders etc., but if this is how they operate it just doesn’t make sense. 

Sounds like you can't afford and are just a bit bitter. It's not profiteering as that has illegal undertones. It's simple enough supply and demand, which you have discovered as the price is too high for you, therefore you won't buy. If enough people don't buy, the price, I imagine will drop.

Nothing more, or less complicated than that.

What it isn't is profieering.

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heliuscc [13 posts] 10 months ago
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don simon wrote:
heliuscc wrote:
don simon wrote:
heliuscc wrote:

Since the Reilly Gradient was first reviewed the price has gone up by £600, or over 25%. In the last two weeks or so it seems to have gone up by £200, review says £2799 and price on site is £2999. How can price hikes like that be justified?

Supply and demand?

Or blatant profiteering???

I’d love to buy British and support small frame builders etc., but if this is how they operate it just doesn’t make sense. 

Sounds like you can't afford and are just a bit bitter. It's not profiteering as that has illegal undertones. It's simple enough supply and demand, which you have discovered as the price is too high for you, therefore you won't buy. If enough people don't buy, the price, I imagine will drop.

Nothing more, or less complicated than that.

What it isn't is profieering.

 

That's an interesting argument from you.

I believe I saw it last on Harry Enfield; 'I notice I am considerably richer than yow are'.

If you set a price to consumers, and then raise the price well above inflation or market forces in a short space of time that would be profiteering.

Profiteering definition- make or seek to make an excessive or unfair profit - I would say that at the original price the vendor would already be making a fair profit, othwerwise why do it at all? After a few good reviews to then raise the price by over 25% could be seen to be unfair or excessive, hence profiteering.

I can quite happily afford the price either way but now it's been bumped by that much I have looked elsewhere, and found that brands such as Why cycles in the USA make just as good if not better product, answer emails and instant messages promptly, and don't stick the price through the roof when someone gives them a good review.

There's no bitterness, just disappointment with another UK company. It's a shame.

By the way, my wife does like your cheap Sangria.

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Morat [341 posts] 10 months ago
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andyp wrote:

'gravel bike'. Godawful marketing shite. It's this generation's 'All Mountain'.

 

 

How about 'Everyday bike for real people on real roads'

 

Yeah, we don't have gravel roads in the UK like they do in yankland but we do have plenty of rubbish roads in fantastic countryside that are no fun on a peleton replica. Now that the 23mm myth has been busted there's reason to suffer at 120PSI anymore.

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Smartstu [21 posts] 10 months ago
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I have a 2016 Tifossi Cavazzo - I ride 90% on the road on the stock G-One's - which are great all round tyres. The position on this bike is perfect for me - it's fast on the road but not back breaking. I can ride it all day and I've done a bit of single track through woods on it, bridleways, etc. For 40+ blokes like me who only have 1 bike - gravel bikes are a great option.

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Justin Powell [1 post] 9 months ago
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I'm very interested in getting my own gravel adventure bike soon too. Right now I'm using my Conspiracy Standard Build from Morpheus Bikes. Can you recommend what kind of gravel bike is best for me? Thanks!

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bikezero [65 posts] 9 months ago
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edit:double post

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bikezero [65 posts] 9 months ago
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Please enlighten me. What advantages do I get buying a budget gravel bike vs putting mtb style road bike tires on a budget road bike?

To the lay person of my age (a teen in the 1990 mtb boom) "gravel" and "hybrid" bikes of today seem to look suspiciously like the now absolutely not manufactured mountain bikes of yesteryear, only that they often have road bike style handlebars fitted and tend to be more expensive.

It seems like a marketing trick to have completely altered what a consumer mtb used to look like and introduce 'gravel' and 'hybrid'.

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Miller [256 posts] 7 months ago
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bikezero wrote:

Please enlighten me. What advantages do I get buying a budget gravel bike vs putting mtb style road bike tires on a budget road bike?

Typically you can't put MTB-style tyres onto a road bike - road frames won't accept the required tyre widths. 30mm width is the bare minimum you need for mixed terrain, 35mm and up is better. A road frame, any road frame, is unlikely to accept anything beyond 28mm and some won't even manage that.

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