Support road.cc

Like this site? Help us to make it better.

Three-year-old banned from riding by Dagenham housing association

Fears young girl on Barbie bike might damage residents' cars ...

A three-year-old girl has been banned from riding her Barbie bike in a quiet cul-de-sac by a Dagenham housing association because of fears the tearaway toddler might damage residents’ cars.

Tracy Osborne-Facey was showing her granddaughter Lilly how to ride with stabilisers when an officer from London and Quadrant (L&Q) housing association told her riding bikes was banned in the street.

Tracy told the Barking and Dagenham Post's Sara Odeen-Isbister that it was one of many “over-the-top” rules enforced in the street by L&Q. The association said it had instituted a “no balls or bikes” policy after complaints from residents who believed their homes and cars could be damaged by children playing outside.

Tracy, 43, said: “I could understand stopping ball games maybe, but they’ve basically banned children from playing outside. But it’s not just the children. We adults are not allowed to congregate or talk outside either. I got a letter once telling me off for chatting to a neighbour outside for about 20 minutes.

“Others have received letters too about all kinds of things which they apparently shouldn’t be doing.

“The officer who told me Lilly couldn’t ride her bike said I should expect a letter about it soon. It’s ridiculous.

“I realise people want to live somewhere peaceful, but the children that play here are all under 12 and not antisocial at all.”

A housing association spokesman said: “L&Q strives to create places where people want to live but unfortunately due to the concern of the local residents we had to enforce a ‘no bikes no ball games’ policy around the area.”

John has been writing about bikes and cycling for over 30 years since discovering that people were mug enough to pay him for it rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work.

He was heavily involved in the mountain bike boom of the late 1980s as a racer, team manager and race promoter, and that led to writing for Mountain Biking UK magazine shortly after its inception. He got the gig by phoning up the editor and telling him the magazine was rubbish and he could do better. Rather than telling him to get lost, MBUK editor Tym Manley called John’s bluff and the rest is history.

Since then he has worked on MTB Pro magazine and was editor of Maximum Mountain Bike and Australian Mountain Bike magazines, before switching to the web in 2000 to work for CyclingNews.com. Along with road.cc founder Tony Farrelly, John was on the launch team for BikeRadar.com and subsequently became editor in chief of Future Publishing’s group of cycling magazines and websites, including Cycling Plus, MBUK, What Mountain Bike and Procycling.

John has also written for Cyclist magazine, edited the BikeMagic website and was founding editor of TotalWomensCycling.com before handing over to someone far more representative of the site's main audience.

He joined road.cc in 2013. He lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

Add new comment

54 comments

Avatar
Paul M | 10 years ago
0 likes

Striving to create a place to live"?

Sounds more like a place to die, to me.

I lived in a place like that for 8 years - only difference being that we owned our houses. Still had interfering busybodies telling us how to run our lives. When we first saw the place we marvelled at how tidy everything seemed. We soon, but too late, realised why.

Avatar
podgethepuffer | 10 years ago
0 likes

No doubt there are plenty of examples of bikes being damaged by cars but I don't suppose that's an issue of note.

Avatar
Matt eaton | 10 years ago
0 likes

Just checked the highway code for a clue on what the actual rules are; sadly no guidance for how very young cyclists should behave, where they should ride or what their rights are.

Avatar
hood | 10 years ago
0 likes

f***ing disgusting.

stay indoors and dont make a sound is pretty much what they are saying!

Avatar
cidermart | 10 years ago
0 likes

That is the trouble of building high density housing on a small space of land the cars have to park on the pavement otherwise fire engines and ambulances cannot get through, piss poor design by a f***wit for maximum revenue. This also highlights the ‘true’ corporate message of L & Q and that is kids don’t earn money so can f*** off regardless of whether or not they cycle. The best option is don’t live in any L & Q properties.

Avatar
Tomarchard | 10 years ago
0 likes

Funking tragic really. Ban cars, not bikes. And what a soulless dump of a place to live.

Avatar
a.jumper | 10 years ago
0 likes

I had my car damaged by drunks once and kids bikes three times in five years, then struggled to get insurance because all incidents coined against my insurance, as the drinks and children didn't stop to exchange details! That was in an edge of estate car park, so if there was a car park, I'd agree with banning cycling in it, but not the whole estate! Over the top L&Q!

Avatar
freespirit1 | 10 years ago
0 likes

But there are in some. Even if none are present that does not give anyone the right to damage someone elses property.

Avatar
daddyELVIS | 10 years ago
0 likes

A reflection of wider society, I'm afraid.

Avatar
jacknorell | 10 years ago
0 likes

What a hell hole to live in.

I'd contribute to a moving costs fund for her family!

Avatar
Peterneater | 10 years ago
0 likes

That's just embarrassing. Makes me glad I'm Canadian and NOT living in the UK. Really? How stuffy and prudish do you have to be to BAN children from playing outside?! Terrible.

The people that live in this neighbourhood should be ashamed of themselves.

Avatar
northstar replied to Peterneater | 10 years ago
0 likes
Peterneater wrote:

That's just embarrassing. Makes me glad I'm Canadian and NOT living in the UK. Really? How stuffy and prudish do you have to be to BAN children from playing outside?! Terrible.

The people that live in this neighbourhood should be ashamed of themselves.

It's nothing to do with being in the UK, could happen anywhere, just a selfish nimby attitude.

Avatar
jellysticks | 10 years ago
0 likes

Wow that escalated as I typed. I mean it though!

*Retreats from computer, does nothing about situation, hopes that getting angry anonymously somehow does something*

Avatar
jellysticks | 10 years ago
0 likes

What a bunch of absolute f*cking c*nts. Seriously. I mean please, just f*ck off and get a life. As others have said, if your car means that much to you, and you'd prefer three-year olds not to have healthy, beneficial fun and exercise, you have some terrifying priorities, a badly skewed sense of community and most likely a trumped-up sense of your own importance. F*cking w*nkers

Avatar
BigBear63 replied to jellysticks | 10 years ago
0 likes
jellysticks wrote:

What a bunch of absolute f*cking c*nts. Seriously. I mean please, just f*ck off and get a life. As others have said, if your car means that much to you, and you'd prefer three-year olds not to have healthy, beneficial fun and exercise, you have some terrifying priorities, a badly skewed sense of community and most likely a trumped-up sense of your own importance. F*cking w*nkers

 24 Dagenham = Barking = BNP = Nazis

Avatar
madhouse | 10 years ago
0 likes

Looks like a horrible place to live, can't even teach the girl to ride in the garden as I doubt any of them have more than a postage stamp.

Maybe we should have a whip-round and buy said 3 year old a drum kit, or a one-man-band outfit? That'd please the fun police!

Avatar
Simon E | 10 years ago
0 likes

I bet it's because all the cars are parked (illegally) on the ****ing pavement!

Avatar
louear | 10 years ago
0 likes

looking at streetmap, its full of cars parked on the pavement. Is this not illegal? I don't think L&Q will tell them off for that.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=RM8+3LF&ll=51.554114,0.137436&spn=0.013...

Avatar
Gennysis | 10 years ago
0 likes

Instead, what about banning cars in the cul de sac over fears that they might damage 3 year olds who are riding their bikes?

Avatar
jellysticks replied to Gennysis | 10 years ago
0 likes
paulmcmillan wrote:

Instead, what about banning cars in the cul de sac over fears that they might damage 3 year olds who are riding their bikes?

An excellent point, but one I fear will not have entered the thick skulls of the ignorant burghers of the housing association

Avatar
Ciaran Patrick | 10 years ago
0 likes

Has anyone checked there website front page. Children playing happily with a strap line saying 'Free summer holiday activities for children and young people'.

Now that's confusing. Play at what, no ball games, no running and oh before I forget no cycling. Maybe blowing bubbles might be fun but might the pavement slippery.

Although I reckon these activities maybe taking place in wales so not to annoy the neighbours.

What an absolutely ridicilous thing not allowing kids to play or even talking to your neighbours. I would seriously steer clear of this unfriendly and idiotic housing association or better as Some fells suggested lets start a ride from there.

Avatar
Some Fella | 10 years ago
0 likes

Does Dagenham have a Reclaim The Streets group i wonder?
Perhaps a small gathering of cyclists on Simmons Drive could be arranged?
Give the residents something else to wet the bed over.

Avatar
kylemalco | 10 years ago
0 likes

Hope her parents introduce her to archery and baseball

Avatar
Andrew_j_heard | 10 years ago
0 likes

I think they need a strava segment there!

Avatar
Belaroo | 10 years ago
0 likes

Any self respecting housing association should strive to build a playpark/recreation space and a car park and get bloody cars off the road. I hate that cars get abandoned on the road. They should be in a carpark or a driveway not the public highway.
"you scratched my car" vs "you transformed my environment into a pollution ridden, death trap where shiny paintwork has more priority over childhood and wellbeing.
Time for some serious changes in this country. The car or rather the appalling lack of sensible infrastructure, legislation and common sense and has literally ruined childhood for this generation.
It's not just these jobs worth's, it's the whole system, and everyone who thinks that parking your car on the pavement is acceptable.

Avatar
gforce | 10 years ago
0 likes

That's just asking for a critical mass ride to visit that street!  36

Avatar
freespirit1 | 10 years ago
0 likes

After the scuff on my car's paintwork cost the thick end of £600 to sort out it is not such a small deal, really.

BTW that was caused by someone leaning their bicyclcle against my car in Leith Hill car park. Wouldn't have minded but they could have used the bike racks!!!

Avatar
anewman replied to freespirit1 | 10 years ago
0 likes

After the scuff on my car's paintwork cost the thick end of £600 to sort out it is not such a small deal, really.

BTW that was caused by someone leaning their bicyclcle against my car in Leith Hill car park. Wouldn't have minded but they could have used the bike racks!!!

I've never had issues with cyclists. It's usually the clueless idiot neighbours with a car who smoke cannabis and think my car is a door stop for their car. Worse is as they're neighbours, going and asking for them to pay for the damage (I know for a fact they did it) will just lead to a long drawn out neighbourly dispute, which ends with no money to pay for the damage, probably more damage to my car, and other problems. Been there, done that, worn the t-shirt. Just have to accept you can't have nice things. Bet if I did something to their car of the same magnitude, they'd quickly be knocking on my door.

In any case they have some bad crash damage to their car now, which due to their idiocy I assume is of their own causing. Sadly I have nowhere else to park due to parking restrictions, and/or drunks in the area. Better a door ding than a kicked off mirror I suppose.

Avatar
northstar replied to freespirit1 | 10 years ago
0 likes
freespirit1 wrote:

After the scuff on my car's paintwork cost the thick end of £600 to sort out it is not such a small deal, really.

BTW that was caused by someone leaning their bicyclcle against my car in Leith Hill car park. Wouldn't have minded but they could have used the bike racks!!!

LOL, troll tastic perhaps as there are no bike racks as far as i'm aware in any Leith Hill car parks...

Avatar
freespirit1 | 10 years ago
0 likes

The housing association people in this sound like total fuckwits with too much time on their hands.

Pages

Latest Comments