Video: London Assembly members criticise Boris Johnson on bike safety

"Cycling is not getting safer," says Baroness Jones

by John Stevenson   November 20, 2013  

Cycle Superhighway2 (CC licensed by diamond geezer:Flickr)

Mayor of London Boris Johnson faced strong criticism of his record on cycle safety in the London Assembly’s Mayor’s Question Time this morning with Assembly members accusing him and Transport for London of moving too slowly to help London cyclists and of actually making the roads more dangerous.

In his comments on the recent deaths on London’s roads, Boris Johnson said: “The spate of fatalities we’ve seen in the last couple weeks must be seen in the context of an overall decline in fatalities.”

He said that there had been 81 fatalities since he came to power in 2008, but 102 in the same time period previously.

“Statistically it is getting safer to cycle. Your journey is less likely to end in a fatality.”

Reacting to calls for action to improve conditions for cyclists on London’s roads and especially on Cycle Superhighway 2, he said: “It is very easy to put in substandard or inadequate schemes and then be forced to take them out again because they have been badly researched or badly thought through. That is not what we want to do. We want to make sure that what we do produces genuine improvements for London.”

Some campaigners would no doubt say that putting in a substandard scheme is exactly what happened with Cycle Superhighway 2.

One campaigner who’s been vocal in her criticism of Boris Johnson’s transport policies is Green MLA Jenny Jones.

Baroness Jones said that Mr Johnson was using the fatality figures to play down the problem, and ignoring the figures about serious injuries.

She said: “In 2008 when you were  first elected, on average a cyclist could do over 400,000 trips before being killed or seriously injured. In 2011, three years after your smoothing traffic flow and changing traffic lights and so on, the average cyclist could make only 364,000 trips before getting killed or seriously injured.

“Cycling is not getting safer.”

Asked by Baroness Jones when he was going to apologise to the families of cyclists killed on London’s roads and to those seriously injured, Mr Johnson responded that she should apologise for her “continual scaremongering”. He claimed that before he was mayor Baroness Jones had done nothing for cycling and she should be the one to apologise for her inertia and failure to work for cyclists.

Baroness Jones countered that she was the first person to mention road safety and cycling in the London Assembly and called Johnson’s claims “outrageously incorrect”.

Mr Johnson has been accused of blaming the victim in his recent remarks about cycling deaths, and Baroness Jones repeated that accusation today.

Saying that after two years Mr Johnson had failed to produce any data to support his 2011 claims that the high level of pedestrian casualties in London was due to people being distracted by handheld devices, Baroness Jones asked where was the evidence that wearing headphones was a factor in cycling casualties.

“If we do have any such data then I’d be happy to share it with you,” said Mr Johnson.

“It’s perfectly obvious that accidents on the roads are caused by many factors. I think it is dangerous for cyclists to have headphones on in London traffic.”

“You can’t pick on one factor” said Baroness Jones.

Mr Johnson said: “It’s entirely reasonable of us to focus on what we can do to make HGVs safer, but I think many people would think that the conversation was inadequate if we didn’t draw attention to the additional responsibility of cyclists to be sensible and to obey the rules of the road.

“If you seriously disagree with that, then I think that you need your head examined.”

The debate became increasingly heated, with both sides accusing the other of wasting their time. It ended with Mr Johnson saying that it was time Baroness Jones “went off to the House of Lords where you belong and wasted their time.”

“You’re just jealous,” she said, to laughter from the chamber.

Liberal Democrat MLA Caroline Pidgeon wondered why it took 18 months to build a cycle lane “on a very straightforward piece of road”, and demanded ort know what the mayor was doing to get the engineers at Transport for London to move at the speed Londoners expect and not the speed of traffic engineers.

Mr Johnson replied that he and TfL had “shifted heaven and earth to get these things installed”. Ms Pidgeon said it was  “not fast enough for ordinary Londoners who want to cycle but want to be able to cycle safely,” and added: “Mr Mayor you need to start taking responsibility for this.”

You cxan watch the full verbal fisticuffs between Boris Johnson and Baroness Jones in this video.

Londoners asked for their views on cycling safety

The London Assembly today asked Londoners to take part in a survey covering cycle safety, superhighways and bike hire in the capital. The Assembly have been active in recommending steps Mayor Boris Johnson could take to make cycling in the capital safer.

The Transport Committee's report, Gearing Up, published a year ago, promoted ideas including reviewing junctions and superhighways, segregation for cyclists and doubling the funding to match the percentage of Londoners travelling by bike.

At a meeting focussed on cycling (City Hall, 10 December), the Committee will question those in charge of cycling, including the Mayor's Cycle Commissioner, Andrew Gilligan, about whether or not any progress has been made to make London roads safer. In preparation, the Committee wants to collect the views of London's cycling community to feed into the meeting.

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Children, grow up.

posted by bendertherobot [247 posts]
20th November 2013 - 18:53

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I hope people are taking the time to complete the survey.

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posted by MikeOnABike [22 posts]
20th November 2013 - 20:20

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typical boris

hiding behind bluster and b*llshit

when hard data (from TFL) is put to him he tries the old trick of deflection, and then personal attacks on the person questioning him...

posted by hampstead_bandit [111 posts]
20th November 2013 - 20:43

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hampstead_bandit wrote:
when hard data (from TFL) is put to him he tries the old trick of deflection, and then personal attacks on the person questioning him...

At that level he's no better than the trolls that infest the BTL comments in the local and national press stories on cycling.

posted by congokid [106 posts]
20th November 2013 - 21:43

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Boris is entertaining but a complete pillock, is he the best you can get in London?

posted by IanW1968 [131 posts]
20th November 2013 - 23:09

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Jenny Jones for Mayor!

posted by jacknorell [244 posts]
21st November 2013 - 0:02

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Boris isn't entertaining and don't be fooled that he is. The sooner he retires as Mayor the better!

posted by onlyonediane [159 posts]
21st November 2013 - 0:38

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Fair to say she really nailed him on that and he didn't have anything constructive in response.

Fair play.

Asolare

posted by Goldfever4 [165 posts]
21st November 2013 - 1:13

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Interesting Irish safety video's here relevant to HGV's on www.stickybottle.com.

Would be worth any new cyclist seeing it for a start.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/after-13-cyclist-deaths-in-10-da...

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posted by Blackhound [435 posts]
21st November 2013 - 10:57

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The real question is, what kind of London do we want? If the agenda was a London safe for cyclists, these cycle deaths would be a call to action. It isn't and there is no action, only empty words and pointing the finger at the victim.

The cure of ignorance is asking. If you don't know how to do it Boris, go ask another country that has a safe cycling environment...you might even get some free travel out of it...

posted by ronin [84 posts]
21st November 2013 - 10:58

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There is a solution to this problem; and it's in the hands of the Motoring Insurance Companies! They could refuse to insure anyone who had been in collision with a cyclist; and found guilty of causing the accident. HIt a cyclist; No Vehicle Insurance for the rest of your life! Now wouldn't that be a deterant for almost all drivers.

That would go a long way to making our roads safer for cyclists.

posted by Mostyn [400 posts]
21st November 2013 - 11:37

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You should all cycle outside London, we cyclists outside of the M25 are immune to death it seems.

posted by Leodis [164 posts]
21st November 2013 - 11:44

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Boris is smart enough to know the difference between rates of KSI, and the absolute numbers.

He tried to dissemble by discussing one instead of the other - she called him out on it - and he became upset.

Watching that video has, for me, finally tipped me over from my prior belief - that boris was often sadly misguded, but genuinely cares about cycling - to a new belief, that he's just out for whatever earns him the best political capital.

(So, I still think Boris could do a lot of good for cycling, if it aligned with his personal and political success. My worry is, maybe he thinks he can do better by siding with the HGV industry).

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posted by PJ McNally [579 posts]
21st November 2013 - 13:16

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