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First ride: Shimano hydraulic road discs

We've had a go on the new Hydraulic Di2 system from Shimano. What's it like? Read on...

So we're here in Sicily trying out Shimano's hydraulic road disc brakes for the first time. They've been a long time coming, but they've landed. And first impressions are good.

Discs are only a part of the wider redevelopment of the Ultegra groupset, which has moved to 11-speed and is available with either mechanical or electronic Di2 shifting. We've covered the launch of this equipment in detail before on road.cc, so we won't go it in great detail now. Suffice to say that the mechanical incarnation of the the groupset borrows heavily from Dura Ace, and the electronic shifting is realised through derailleurs that are, to all intents and purposes, the same. Okay Dura Ace is a bit lighter, but in terms of form and function there's very little between them.

In contrast to SRAM's tall levers that accommodate the master hydraulic cylinder and the mechanical workings, Shimano's discs use Di2 levers that are, to all intents and purposes,  empty thanks to the switch to switches. That means that Shimano are able to run hydraulic discs from a lever that's the same size as the non-disc Ultegra unit. The brake levers pivot differently, leaving the shiny master cylinder static up top.

One thing that we've been hearing on a more or less constant basis is that the switch to discs is market driven, and not something that's particularly interesting the pro cyclists. That being the case it was certainly interesting to hear Andy Schleck, who's been present at the launch, talk about the limitations of braking on a current professional bike, with carbon rims and callipers. He for one seems to be in favour of a switch to discs.

From Andy's point of view the possible switch to discs isn't so much a boon in terms of overall braking power as consistency in poor conditions. "If you're descending in the wet then there's often water on the braking surface of the rim", he told us. "You need to brake in time to clear that water, you're often dragging the brakes into a corner with no guarantee of what's going to happen". Similarly on a hot alpine descent Andy tells us that the difference in braking feel and power is very different from the top to the bottom, as the brakes heat up the rim surface.

So is disc braking the beautiful future that puts all these issues to rest? Well, we've only had one go on the new Shimano hydraulics thus far: a 1h45 grind up Mt Etna where they weren't required at all, followed by a 16-minute descent back down where they most assuredly were. Here's what we found.

Form: the lever feels the same as a Di2 lever, and by extension a Dura Ace lever; all have the same basic shape. The pivot for the disc lever is different (the cylinder doesn't pivot, of course) but the the feel of the lever is very similar. The Di2 buttons Work flawlessly and the whole thing feels polished. The aesthetic criticisms levelled at SRAM's tall hydraulic levers aren't applicable here, though the taller profile of the Red disc lever does suit some riders.

Function: there's a lot of power available through the hydraulic setup. It's noticably more the you'd expect from a rim brake and consequently you adapt your braking to pull later in the run-up to a corner. It's not really a conscious decision: you just automatically adjust.

Modulation of the power is excellent and it was a very rare occasion that I locked up the back wheel into a hairpin; this even on a descent I don't know at all.

It's possible to fade the brakes by dragging them down steeper sections. It's a predictable fade, and only really achievable by single-wheel braking. Once you're using both brakes it ceases to be an issue, and it's not an issue at all if you're prepared to attack the straights and brake fairly late into the corners.

We had a fairly significant amount of noise from the brakes on our test bikes on the descent from Etna, more so as the system heated up. Since the pads and rotors were new it's fair to asssume that this is due to the components bedding in, but we'll see how they perform for tomorrow and Wednesday.

Overall the first impressions were very positve: easy modulated, and consistent, power in braking coupled with the simplicity of Di2 shifting.

This isn't meant to be a full review of the system, just a heads up on our first findings. We'll continue to report on how the discs work over the next couple of days, and we're also looking forward to receiving a set for longer-term testing. Stay tuned for that.

Dave is a founding father of road.cc, having previously worked on Cycling Plus and What Mountain Bike magazines back in the day. He also writes about e-bikes for our sister publication ebiketips. He's won three mountain bike bog snorkelling World Championships, and races at the back of the third cats.

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crazy-legs | 10 years ago
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With Shimano and Campagnolo putting their eggs in the electronic basket, that realistically leaves SRAM.

There are plenty of "half-way-house" options. My CX bike is using Ultegra STIs with a Hope V-Twin set-up (sure it's not the nicest sleekest looking thing in the world but it means I can use whatever shifters I want and still have hydraulic disc brakes).

There's the TRP system which uses cables to activate a hydraulic reservoir at the caliper. Magura have their own system, Formula had a partnership with the early Colnago C59 disc braked road bike.

Stop being so negative! Disc brakes are proven tech on MTBs, they have been for 10+ years. None of this is new or ground-breaking. While the industry settles down and decides what it wants/what we want (or need!) and what "the standards" are, I expect there'll still be loads of choice.

And in 5 years time we'll be wondering what all the fuss was about and discs will be so commonplace everyone will wonder how they managed without!

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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Because we *never* had any problems with V-brakes and cantis on our mountain bikes, did we?  39

crazy-legs is right, there are other options. For a start, now that road hydro is a reality, people are putting a bit more effort into their mechanical discs. The new Hayes CX Expert and the TRP Spyre are proof that we're not all going to be using BB7s until the cows come home. There's work to be done to make them better, but mechanical discs will certainly improve over the next couple of years.

my current favourite solution is TRP's Hy/Rd which is a cable/hydraulic system but with all the hydraulic bits at the calliper. It's better than any full mechanical disc I've used and has the benefit that it self-centres to keep braking consistent. There's no hose so it's very unlikely you'd need to bleed it. For most people, I reckon they're a better option than full hydraulic. They could do with being a bit less bulky and they're not pretty, but it's the first incarnation. They'll get lighter, and nicer looking.

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sodit replied to sidesaddle | 10 years ago
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sidesaddle wrote:

Anyone who has ever ridden a 70's motorcycle knows, possibly at great cost, that discs alone are not the answer to the rain  2

What a nightmare that was, brake on nothing  7 10 or 15ft still nothing  7 then suddenly all on cause your squeezing that lever to save your life!!  40 Made for some interesting moments till you got used to them. I used to drag the brake on now and then just to clear the disc.  16

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