Suffolk motorist will kill someone, warns victim as man convicted for 43rd time of driving while disqualified

10-month prison sentence and 12-month ban for serial lawbreaker... but he says it won't stop him

by Simon_MacMichael   February 12, 2013  

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A motorist convicted and jailed for driving while disqualified for the 43rd time told Suffolk police that it wouldn't stop him driving again, one of his victims has said t it is only a matter of time before the motorist, John Moir, kills.

Simon Jacobs who was left him with life changing injuries by Moir's driving in 2010 made the comments after Moir was found guilty for the 43rd time of driving while disqualified. The motorist has been jailed for four months for that offence, with other charges taking his total sentence to ten months, and he has also been banned from driving for a year. It is the latest of a number of cases highlighting the extent to which some people repeatedly ignore driving bans.

Moir, aged 46 and from Rushmere St Andrew in Suffolk, pleaded guilty to driving while disqualified, driving without insurance and two counts of theft, reports the Ipswich Star.

Previously, in 2010 Moir, who has amassed a total of 218 driving offences, received an 18 month prison term following an incident that left pedestrian Simon Jacobs with what were described as life changing injuries.

Reacting to news of Moir’s latest sentence, Mr Jacobs told the Ipswich Star: “He has left me with a life sentence, I will never get over my injuries.

“As a result of my brain injury I suffer something called ballistic rage because I can’t work, but this has left me seething.

“When he ran into me he got 18 months, but only served half.

“The next time it was 14 months and now 10.

“It is an insult. I believe it is only a matter of time before he kills someone. I was lucky but next time things could be very different. I just find it ludicrous, it is laughable.

“The justice system needs to listen up, they are playing a waiting game – eventually I believe he will kill someone.”

Moir’s latest driving ban was for two years, imposed in September 2011. South East Suffolk Magistrates Court has now replaced that with a new, 12-month ban.

He’s by no means the only driver in Britain to have been found guilty of driving while disqualified on dozens of occasions.

In 2010, The Sun reported that mobile DJ Thomas Feely from Leeds had notched up his 113th motoring offence, and had been jailed on more than 30 occasions.

As he received another prison sentence for driving while disqualified, apparently the 55th time he had been convicted of that offence, his defence lawyer warned, “He’ll be back.”

In 2008, former nightclub bouncer Jamie Manderson from Swindon was banned for five years after his 51st conviction for driving while disqualified.

The first of those was secured when he was aged just 15, and Metro, reporting on that 2008 conviction, said Manderson had never actually held a driving licence.

His lawyer described him as a “likeable idiot” - one who, it transpires, in 1998 hit a 12-year-old cyclist while driving a getaway car involved in a robbery.

Last year, a sheriff in Scotland handed a lifetime ban from driving to 42-year-old Andrew Winsborough of Kelty, Fife for life after he was convicted for the fifteenth time of driving while disqualified.

According to the BBC, Sheriff Lindsay Foulis also described the maximum 12-month prison sentence that applies in Scotland for driving while disqualified as “wholly inadequate” and called for it to be increased.

That is still harsher than the maximum six-month sentence that applies in England and Wales.

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Pathetic! Things will only change if an MP's child gets injured or killed. Change the laws you f@*!ing idiots you work for us.

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posted by cidermart [454 posts]
12th February 2013 - 17:55

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Some one should hire a 'hitman'.

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posted by antonio [923 posts]
12th February 2013 - 19:00

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Confiscate their vehicle. Every time.

posted by JonSP [48 posts]
12th February 2013 - 19:55

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i know it won't stop them, but sorry they should be banned for life. one year bans send out a completely wrong signal.

As for actually stopping them driving? short of life imprisonment not sure what can really be done.

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posted by mrmo [1006 posts]
12th February 2013 - 20:08

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A good kicking down a dark alley would be a sound starting point for scum like this, the courts and legal system do nothing for this type of problem

posted by Simmo72 [263 posts]
12th February 2013 - 20:27

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The courts and legal system are constrained by the laws that parliament set. Driving whilst disqualified has a maximum sentence of 6 months. The courts are obliged to give a third off for a guilty plea bringing that down to four months of which he will serve a maximum of half. There's nothing a court can do about that.

posted by Jerm [39 posts]
12th February 2013 - 21:05

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I can imagine that it wont be long before the sentencing of our glorious judicial system results in people taking their own action.

posted by Matt_S [182 posts]
12th February 2013 - 22:07

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Surely he can have an ASBO or one of those curfew things on his ankle.. How ridiculous!

If I was only half as good as I am in my own mind.

posted by JulesW [24 posts]
12th February 2013 - 22:23

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Anyone know what car he drives?

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posted by Raleigh [1727 posts]
12th February 2013 - 22:39

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Why do we bother abiding by the laws of the land? There is no fit punishment. People will only stop committing offences if there are consequences to their actions.

posted by benwaite [8 posts]
12th February 2013 - 22:40

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It's getting to be like the opposite of 1984. In George Orwell's novel, people believed to have committed crimes of mere thought are subjected to their worst nightmare, to reprogram them into slavish conformity. In 2013, people who injure other citizens get a slap on the wrist, spit in the face of the justice system, do it again, and get an even milder slap on the wrist. If their crimes are committed behind the wheel of a car that is. If you wanted to program people to become even worse drivers than they are already, you couldn't come up with a better system to do so.

posted by ubercurmudgeon [168 posts]
12th February 2013 - 22:58

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"The courts and legal system are constrained by the laws that parliament set. Driving whilst disqualified has a maximum sentence of 6 months. The courts are obliged to give a third off for a guilty plea bringing that down to four months of which he will serve a maximum of half. There's nothing a court can do about that."

In which case doesn't 43 x 2 months equal 7+ years in prison?

posted by sfichele [91 posts]
12th February 2013 - 23:09

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Numerous convictions for the same offence over and over again show these people have no respect for the law or those they will go on to maim and kill

posted by crash144019 [47 posts]
12th February 2013 - 23:43

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Raleigh wrote:
Anyone know what car he drives?

He doesn't drive a car, he's banned from driving ... oh wait a minute!

I have never seen the point of a court banning somebody from driving who is found guilty of driving whilst disqualified, Isn't it likely that having ignored that sentence in the past they will do so again?

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posted by djcritchley [145 posts]
13th February 2013 - 8:45

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To sfichele
You're not going to like this but no. Because it is what is referred to as a summary only offence, even if he were sentenced for 10 offences at the same time, the maximum sentence would still be 6 months in prison. Of course, if he were sentenced separately, he could go to prison each time. Prior to 1988, the sentence was higher. I think it was 2 years then. I suppose, like now, they didn't want prisons full of people committing driving offences. Parliament have now actually made it more difficult to lock people up for such offences. You now can't remand someone in custody if they commit a summary only offence except in very rare circumstances so the bloke referred to above, provided he wasn't on bail at the time, could not be kept in custody prior to conviction.

posted by Jerm [39 posts]
13th February 2013 - 8:49

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I honestly don't know what we can do with people like this. A longer jail sentence might focus his mind somewhat, but maybe a heavy community order would be better.

How can we physically stop people like this from driving? I don't know.

posted by benb [46 posts]
13th February 2013 - 10:34

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JonSP wrote:
Confiscate their vehicle. Every time.

This has merit. No matter whose vehicle it is, it should be confiscated and sold (unless it was stolen).

On the basis that no-one should allow or permit a disqualified driver to use their vehicle.

posted by benb [46 posts]
13th February 2013 - 10:38

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I wonder if any of the victims have brought civil suits against the drivers? And in the criminal proceedings, why hasn't the judge awarded substantial recompense to the victim? Garnish the criminal's wages (if they've got a job and if they don't use the old testament's punishments!)

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posted by pepita1 [174 posts]
13th February 2013 - 10:44

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this stupid situation will only change when laws are changed, meanwhile the madness continues

posted by Karbon Kev [663 posts]
13th February 2013 - 11:00

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It's an interesting question isn't it - the law can only hand out certain punishments, and if the miscreant is happy to spend time in the big house every now and again what harm is it?

All I can say is: if this Moir guy (and others) refuse to respect the rule of law of this country, they had BETTER not be receiving any help or support from the state.

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posted by Gizmo_ [709 posts]
13th February 2013 - 11:04

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it is a disgrace, that many offenses should be taken into account and a new offence created to deal with it. Banning someone from driving because they were driving whilst banned from driving, just proves 'the law is an ass'. Confiscate the car, fine massively, remove access to the majority of benefits, and inprosonment. Each count should carry its own seperate penalty, 42x6 months might make him think a bit more about what he's doing. Oh I don't know, chop his hands off then he can't drive...

posted by md6 [154 posts]
13th February 2013 - 12:41

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I agree, ASBO him. And crush his car. Then park it back through his front window.

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posted by bikepixi [12 posts]
13th February 2013 - 12:53

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It's only like 1984 if The Establishment feels endangered.

If YOU as a person feel endangered, then feel free to fuck off and die.

But make a tweet which The Establishment feels threatens its supremacy, however stupid and drunken that tweet may be and you could end up in jail for four years

That's how much The Establishment values its own protection over your protection,

The Law in the country is an ass. You have just better be ultra careful, and hopefully never need it. It's not FOR you and me.

posted by Animal [33 posts]
13th February 2013 - 15:31

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Animal wrote:
It's only like 1984 if The Establishment feels endangered.

If YOU as a person feel endangered, then feel free to fuck off and die.

But make a tweet which The Establishment feels threatens its supremacy, however stupid and drunken that tweet may be and you could end up in jail for four years

That's how much The Establishment values its own protection over your protection,

The Law in the country is an ass. You have just better be ultra careful, and hopefully never need it. It's not FOR you and me.


Sadly, this is so very true. You can't even make a public protest any more - ask the UK Uncut protesters in Fortnum & Mason about how they were treated, or the Oxbridge Boat Race protestor. And we have the scaremongering that pushed through those lovely anti-terror laws.

Part of me wants this unrepentant, lawless driver to receive a good backstreet 'education'. The more rational part thinks that crushing his car and many, many hours of very visible Community Service hours (and a much longer ban) would be more useful, and less expensive.

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posted by Simon E [1881 posts]
13th February 2013 - 16:10

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Simmo72 wrote:
A good kicking down a dark alley would be a sound starting point for scum like this, the courts and legal system do nothing for this type of problem

You could get a hefty sentence for that. You'd be better off running him over using a car.

posted by Actium [37 posts]
13th February 2013 - 16:46

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Actium wrote:
You could get a hefty sentence for that. You'd be better off running him over using a car.

And just a paltry fine if he was on a bicycle.

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posted by Simon E [1881 posts]
13th February 2013 - 19:33

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No doubt some human rights parasite will say it breaks his if he was made to do community service. The law appears to favour the perpitrator rather than the victim and there isn't an MP with the spuds to do anything about it. Totally agree crush his car at his expense.

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posted by cidermart [454 posts]
13th February 2013 - 19:36

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You may be surprised to hear that there are assorted motorcycle groups who take a dim view of this sort of thing, and rarely concern themselves with an individuals human rights...

posted by sidesaddle [64 posts]
14th February 2013 - 19:41

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As both JonSP and benb have said take the car away.

I thought that was a given considering as a disqualified driver they would not have insurance and as some police forces PR Depts are keen to point out that's what happens to uninsured cars.

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posted by FATBEGGARONABIKE [555 posts]
14th February 2013 - 20:18

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I was quite pleased to hear that a cowboy builder who did some 'work' for me got recently caught over the limit for the 3rd time and driving while still disqualified from that one. He'd been banned before and ignored it so this time he got 4 months prison, plus a 5 year ban and suspended sentence. If he gets caught driving whilst disqualified when he gets out after his 4 months that automatically becomes a 5 year sentence. And given his history I know plenty of people ready to report him!

posted by mbrads72 [107 posts]
15th February 2013 - 20:15

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