Saddle lock design wins Red Dot award

Design uses pivoting seatpost and lock integrated into saddle

by Mat Brett   January 21, 2013  

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This new bike security system features a seatpost that pivots backwards and a rear wheel lock integrated into the saddle. The Korean innovation has just won a Red Dot design award.

The design is the work of Lee Sang Hwa, Kim Jin Ho and Yeo Min Gu. Of course, if you really want to make sure your bike is still there when you get back – or at least to stand a fighting chance – you actually need to lock it to something immovable. That’s obvious. This is intended as a quick and simple way to lock your bike when you’re making a short stop – maybe even easy enough for Damon Albarn to use

The designers say, “In complex cities, the number of people using bicycles to travel short distances is increasing. Following the trend, bicycle design has been evolving rapidly. On the contrary, the evolution of the bicycle lock has been slow. When they make a quick stop – such as at a coffee counter or a convenience store – people still look for something to lock their bicycle to. Even though they are only stopping for a few minutes, they must perform quite a number of actions to lock their bike.

“Saddle Lock provides a way to quickly lock the rear wheel without the need for additional locking accessories. The seat post swings down around the main frame when a button is pushed. The saddle features a cut-away shape that allows it to sit over the rear wheel. A combination lock allows the release of a special alloy rotating lock that extends from one end of the saddle to the other, securing its connection to the wheel.”

Red Dot awards are bestowed by the Design Zentrum Nordrhein Westfalen in Essen, Germany for design excellence.

Here at caring, sharing road.cc, we like to support innovation wherever possible, but while we appreciate the design is intended for commuting rather than for all-out performance, we can’t help wondering what the lack of any triangulation at the rear of that bike does in terms of frame flex. Admittedly, those tubes do look pretty sturdy.

We’re also curious about saddle height adjustment – in that there really isn’t going to be a lot here. Maybe you can chop the seatpost to length.

It seems to us like quite a lot is forfeited for the sake of the ability to immobilise the rear wheel.

We remain to be convinced but, still, interesting stuff.

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Interesting enough, but strange looking.

Here is another seatpost lock that I noticed the other day
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/solgaarddesign/the-interlocktm-the-l...

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posted by Gkam84 [8645 posts]
21st January 2013 - 11:47

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Both interesting designed, but flawed. That Interlock cable looks thin enough to be cut thru in a few minutes. perhaps suitable for locking up your bike when you pop into a newspaper shop but neither look secure enough to risk using on their own when you leave your bike at the train station for the day for instance.

I'll stick to using two locks when I'm securing my scruffy old mountain bike for the day thanks.

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posted by OldRidgeback [2114 posts]
21st January 2013 - 11:55

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hmm, Mudguard-free commuting? Not my cup of tea.

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posted by PJ McNally [579 posts]
21st January 2013 - 11:55

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Not sure how that really differs from my Abus Phantom lock that clips on the downtube. Permanently available and located right over the centre of gravity.

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posted by Tovarishch [44 posts]
21st January 2013 - 12:31

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I love it when I have to use a hacksaw to change my saddle height. Also you could still walk away with most of the bike with an allen key and a flick of the rear QR by the looks of it

Design for the sake of design.

posted by euanlindsay [75 posts]
21st January 2013 - 12:34

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OldRidgeback wrote:
perhaps suitable for locking up your bike when you pop into a newspaper shop but neither look secure enough to risk using on their own when you leave your bike at the train station for the day for instance.

OldRidgeback, be honest: you didn't read the words, did you?

posted by Mat Brett [1808 posts]
21st January 2013 - 12:47

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Large-Large gear combination on that cgi bike, too Angry

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posted by PJ McNally [579 posts]
21st January 2013 - 12:51

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i live in the middle of rotterdam,bike theft is rife... after seeing an vanmoof three years ago i bought one.too my delight its still here today,locked to a lamppost every night [the model is vanmoof no5] p.s. also a red dot winner...tot ziens rob

posted by rob hoogenboom [5 posts]
21st January 2013 - 13:32

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Not to mention both QR-levers pointed forwards for maximum twig-catching carnage!

posted by chokofingrz [239 posts]
21st January 2013 - 13:36

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The 'security' this affords is that the back wheel cannot turn. Nothing at all stopping someone carrying it away. Therefore, how is this any different to the age-old 'Dutch' style wheel-lock gracing a bajillion bikes around the world?

This isn't 'design'. Good design is a Monopol corkscrew, Eames chair, or anything that is both beautiful AND functional. This fails totally on the latter, and is arguable on the former.

I was told there would be Cake. Luckily there's http://TestValleyCC.org.uk

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posted by KiwiMike [432 posts]
21st January 2013 - 14:00

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rob hoogenboom wrote:
i live in the middle of rotterdam,bike theft is rife... after seeing an vanmoof three years ago i bought one.too my delight its still here today,locked to a lamppost every night [the model is vanmoof no5] p.s. also a red dot winner...tot ziens rob

Hi Rob, I hear from a Dutch friend in the business that Vanmoof have a pretty poor reputation for componentry - rust, failure etc - thoughts? Maybe just the early ones?

I was told there would be Cake. Luckily there's http://TestValleyCC.org.uk

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posted by KiwiMike [432 posts]
21st January 2013 - 14:03

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Gkam84 wrote:
Interesting enough, but strange looking.

Here is another seatpost lock that I noticed the other day
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/solgaarddesign/the-interlocktm-the-lock-that-hides-inside-of-your?ref=live

Hmm, I like this. It certainly won't stop a determined thief and I wouldn't trust it overnight, but seems like it could be suitable for use on my town bike.

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posted by Tour Le Tour [91 posts]
21st January 2013 - 14:14

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I'm amazed how the front derailleur manages to hover in thin air!

I think it is a bit funny to give a design award to something like this when it hasn't been built.

two wheels good; four wheels bad

posted by cat1commuter [1321 posts]
21st January 2013 - 15:23

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I wish in my line of work it were possible to win awards for concept sketches that were deficient in every way possible (less secure, impractical, heavy: this ticks all the boxes) but looked nice.

posted by ubercurmudgeon [168 posts]
21st January 2013 - 16:31

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KiwiMike wrote:
The 'security' this affords is that the back wheel cannot turn. Nothing at all stopping someone carrying it away. Therefore, how is this any different to the age-old 'Dutch' style wheel-lock gracing a bajillion bikes around the world?

Has anyone else noticed the strange squiggly shapes between the pictures?

posted by Mat Brett [1808 posts]
21st January 2013 - 16:52

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Well, at least it's not yet another "commuter" design study with a TT position - it looks like you could actually ride relatively comfortably.

posted by Shanghaied [39 posts]
21st January 2013 - 16:55

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My design of a tea cup made of biscuit is being considered for next year's red dot award give-away.

It's all about the size of your cog.

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posted by TR McGowran [97 posts]
21st January 2013 - 17:34

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Make it mandatory for all eBay and Gumtree sellers to produce an original purchase receipt, and for all cable locks to come with a sticker saying "warning, this will only protect your bike against a small child armed with a plastic spoon", and you'd probably halve bike theft overnight. This, on the other hand...

posted by Mr Agreeable [124 posts]
21st January 2013 - 22:42

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Mat Brett wrote:
KiwiMike wrote:
The 'security' this affords is that the back wheel cannot turn. Nothing at all stopping someone carrying it away. Therefore, how is this any different to the age-old 'Dutch' style wheel-lock gracing a bajillion bikes around the world?

Has anyone else noticed the strange squiggly shapes between the pictures?

I see what you did there. Clever.

I repeat: how is this different to the ABUS Granite City wheel lock on my Dutch bike? I don't need a lamp-post. If someone wants to nick it, they'll have to lift about 35KG of unwieldy, large bike. This is no different to this 'award-winner'. Except that my bike can also have panniers, a rack, mudguards, over-sized tyres, a saddlebag, and the saddle height can be adjusted for my wife / friends to use.

This isn't 'design', it's fail.

I was told there would be Cake. Luckily there's http://TestValleyCC.org.uk

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posted by KiwiMike [432 posts]
22nd January 2013 - 9:34

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Is there something in the article that makes you think we consider this a successful design?

posted by Mat Brett [1808 posts]
22nd January 2013 - 10:16

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hi kiwimike,not much of an problem with my vanmoof perhaps the mudguards but thier steel.ive painted them once yeah otherwise everything is ok[im doing 25km every day

posted by rob hoogenboom [5 posts]
22nd January 2013 - 11:28

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Mat Brett wrote:
OldRidgeback wrote:
perhaps suitable for locking up your bike when you pop into a newspaper shop but neither look secure enough to risk using on their own when you leave your bike at the train station for the day for instance.

OldRidgeback, be honest: you didn't read the words, did you?

I did as it happens. I just don't see the point. With this I'd pay more for a bike that's less secure. A d-lock thru the frame to something secure doesn't take that long to do when popping into a shop. This frame design is less secure as when you want to lock it properly, slipping a d-lock thru the back wheel means a thief could still slip the frame out.

An old Dutch bike with one of those simple wheel locks is just as effective as a temporary measure, but a good deal cheaper.

Stuffing a cable lock in the seat post isn't a bad idea. But the cable looks too thin.

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posted by OldRidgeback [2114 posts]
22nd January 2013 - 12:44

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Precisely!!! That's why the article says, "Of course, if you really want to make sure your bike is still there when you get back – or at least to stand a fighting chance – you actually need to lock it to something immovable. That’s obvious."

posted by Mat Brett [1808 posts]
22nd January 2013 - 13:28

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I prefer locks that don't require buying a whole new bike! As others have said, this is only good for a very short stop. In that case, just carry a flimsy lock or one ofthose Scandinavian style wheel locks. It's generally important to lock to a fixed object for insurance purposes even if the lock is cheap. Also, isn't everybody like me with a whole series of locks depending on which bike I am riding, where I intend to leave it and for how long?

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23rd January 2013 - 19:32

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problem with design schools they dont practice reality. had this bloke rode a bike all his life and long, he would understand the bicycle, like the wheel has reached its full design potential. to design an integrated lock like this is like making a hexagonal wheel. I've seen samsung tv's where techwise they have eradicated blur meaning when Black Beauty runs across your tv screen you wont see the beauty of motion blur. Believe me, I rather have the blur. When I want to watch a swimwear pageant I will call them.

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posted by redthing [24 posts]
24th January 2013 - 0:24

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The Tigr lock should be winning awards
http://www.paxplena.com/2012/04/review-tigr-lock.html?m=1

posted by wyadvd [116 posts]
24th January 2013 - 0:25

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Those wheel locks don't just come attached to dutch bikes y'know.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ABUS-Bicycle-Lock-4850-Black/dp/B001BADNJ8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1

What a silly design. Why have the mocked up a road bike with discs when that is not going to be their market?

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posted by bikepixi [12 posts]
24th January 2013 - 1:35

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Acutally having looked at the site, I cannot find this particular design. BUT. There are some other totally dumb ideas you can laugh at. There is another integrated lock and seatpost that you have to take the seatpost out, thus potentially getting grease all over yourself, increasing the likelihood of busting the clamp with over use and increasing the rate of corrosion by water getting into the bike and the damage of constant wear and tear.

There is a seatpost/pup, that is an even worse idea. A saddle that is made of a block of plastic with holes in so if it rains water drains through. Looks really inflexible and uncomfortable, oh hang on, the frame is carbon fibre. that makes it ok.

And a flouro green version of the cyclehoop already in use in london (and many other places).

Jeez. Cant these people get awards for actual working practical solutions in production that people like and use?

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24th January 2013 - 1:58

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