Family sues Strava for causing cyclist's death

Can we sue the law firms for creating a suing culture and encouraging us to chase money and try to sue people? Ive wasted a lot of time and effort thinking up scams which have never come to fruition! this time couldve been spent on something worthwile like chasing Strava records or becoming a pro cyclist. Therefore I am suing every legal team in the world for 450,000 Euros - the prize money paid to the winner of the Tour de France.

Surely the manufacturer can't be held responsible for how fast someone wants to go, this is just madness ...

Wow! What a surprise! Another moron dead in San Fran? Even better, the moron's family has "lawyered-up".

Actually the family should have to pay us for the time we've wasted listening to their argument. Common sense is not so common in California.

This is why I try to create more "sensible" Strava segments that take into account traffic intersections, safe braking distances, etc.

There are a few user-created climb segments on my favorite roads that are nearly impossible to complete without stopping for a red light, yield, etc. so the KOTM is often the guy who is willing to blow a red light, fly through cross-traffic, etc. and not necessarily the strongest climber who has taken that route.

Similarly there are some idiotic descent segments that cross intersections, or the segment ends 20 feet from a wall or house so you'd have to nail the brakes long before the segment ends if you want to live.

The thing is, any sensible person would ride the way they normally ride--maybe digging a little deeper where they can, but not riding with blinders on. If you are cutting through cross-traffic or risking death or injury on yourself or others in the hopes of getting internet bragging rights, you are just a jackass, plain and simple.

Should we all follow each other?!

Mine is Dan flower

I use Strava now and again to see how i am improving (or not) on a specific route but it doesn't mean that i go balls out every time to become 'Number 1'. It is unfortunate what has happened and no doubt it will happen again because some people always want to push the boundaries.

By the way, Strava have just updated their T&C's

Just remember, use your head to think, not to stop.....

Yeah, just got the updated Terms, this part is particularly relevant:

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its crazy that Strava should even be worried - dont you just wish a judge would throw the case out on day one and get the claimant to pay all costs - stupidity and vindictiveness by the family - I read elsewhere that it was the wife who bought him the garmin for a present? then she is implicated too!

What absolute sheee-iiiite. Shameful.

I hope common sense prevails in all of this and personal responsibility, and that those of us who use Strava don't let it interfere with cycling sensibly or the fun of cycling.

In my own experience Strava became a bit of a bossy parrot on my shoulder. I learnt that it needed a cage! Sometimes I just want to go and ride simply for 'feel' and at those times when I choose to let it out and it measures me up I am no less a person for losing a KOM or not gaining one.

I wonder if Strava will change its messages/messaging as a result of this?

If you know a segment to be dangerous (goes through traffic lights, major junctions etc) then I suggest reporting them. It's a bit alarming when folk are saying they give it a go and hope to get through lights, even if they do yield to them. A minority are bound to chance it even if you don't. I know you're not responsible for them but let's all try and keep each other alive, eh? There will still be plenty of other segments around.

Re following each other, RoadCC could create a "club" on it and people could join...

I'm pretty sure the email that so and so has taken your KOM is a new thing as I've only been getting them for a few months. Yet 1 or 2 of my KOMs were taken without Strava informing me. So maybe not part of the service 2 years ago.

Anyway my sentiments are the same as the majority here...

Psyclyst >They have changed the email when you lose a KOM from 'Now show them who is boss' 'to Now get out there, have fun and be safe.' Perhaps changed in last day or two!

No, DRHEATON, you can't sue God--she doesn't exist. But the aforementioned family could sue the dad for siring the lad---no lad, no accident, innit.
Or possibly the hills might be sued for being aggressively big'n'lumpy. Honestly, these Lycra psychlists!
P.R.