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Your vote needed (again): TalkSport asks, 'Is cycling a sport?'

Meanwhile, Giles Coren stirs up minor Twitterstorm with 'never heard of him' Cav tweet...

While many in the cycling world and beyond have applauded Mark Cavendish for his winning BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2011 yesterday evening, the world champion winning as many votes as the other nine sportsmen on the short list put together, he - and cycling - appear to have some way to go before enjoying the embrace of the full British public. 

A poll currently running on the TalkSport website asks whether former Ipswich Town and Scotland footballer Alan Brazil, who now presents the radio station’s breakfast show, is “correct in believing that cycling is not a sport?”

The poll currently shows that three in four of those voting disagree with Brazil, who also played for clubs including Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and, er, Wollongong City during his career.

Meanwhile, Giles Coren (who he? – ed) tweeted shortly after Cavendish had been revealed as the winner: “I have literally never heard of Mark Cavendish.”

There’s nothing particularly wrong with that – many pointed out that it’s unlikely that Cavendish would have heard of the food critic, TV presenter and novelist either, and to be fair, saying you haven’t heard of someone isn’t necessarily a judgment on them or what they happen to do for a living.

He did, however, manage to push some buttons in his subsequent tweets. One of the more publishable one to the cycling fans taken him to task was, “Woooooooooo. This is hilarious. I haven't seen so many cyclists in such a piss outside of one of those stop the traffic demos.”

Mind you, even we managed a chuckle when after saying, “it seems he won the tour de France. Who knew?” his next tweet exclaimed, “What? He didn't even win it? Then how the f*** on earth could anyone be expected to know who he is? I mean, I didn't win it either.”

We’re picturing rueful nods of agreement from any among you who’ve tried to explain to non-cyclists how the jerseys at the Tour work, only to be met by a blank look of non-comprehension.

Coren himself is no stranger to the bike, however. In a restaurant review published in The Times earlier this year, he describes how he undertook “six years of cycling during my embarrassing ‘green’ period.”

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.

So going back to 1300ad you still could go and watch someone being hung drawn and quartered.....and call it a sport.  19

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Matt_S replied to WolfieSmith | 12 years ago
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Who are these people. I honestly had no idea who either of them were and I've been sport mad since I was knee-high to a grasshopper. (apart from football, which as far as I can tell, is just a way for oligarchs to flash some cash on racists and people who need some arse hair transplanted on to their heads. *shrug*)

MercuryOne wrote:

I am exasperated with the continued ignoring of cycling (and women's sport) by much of the press.

On a magnitude of achievements basis, (and even given the amazing year that British sportsmen had),Nicole Cooke should at least been in the SPOTY top 3 in 2008.

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TiNuts replied to CraigTheBiker | 12 years ago
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@ CraigTheBiker. So true. I'd never heard of Mr Brazil and, judging by his blathering, I doubt whether he has the sort of knowledge about sport that would have made him a must-have on "A Question of Sport". Football being so far off my personal radar of interest I won't be beating a path to his website either......  4

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JAndrewHill replied to CraigTheBiker | 12 years ago
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CraigTheBiker wrote:

Methinks Mr Brazil, and his Talksport employers, know exactly what will happen as a result of saying something so controversial: lots of free publicity, an increase in website traffic and a lot more listeners!

I'm not so sure that AB is that clever. . . . but ask him about skiing which his family participate in and that's bound to be a sport. . . . whereas i think is just a dangerous means of transport.

. . . and AB said that cycling was not easy for people to do cos there were so few places in the uk to do it (I think he was thinking about velodromes). But up north in Manchester the coucil have built things called roads and I find they are quite good for racing along...

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farrell | 12 years ago
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Alan Brazil is a whopper. Most of talkshite's listenership appear to be whoppers so I don't really care what some petty poll has to say, I'm more knowledgeable in terms of cycling than their average listener, I'm also more knowledgeable on the subject of football as I can watch the game and form my own opinion as opposed to just repeating verbatim what the latest red top drivel is.

As somebody pointed out earlier, football was dragged into the mainstream and just look at what a horror show that has become.

Also, can I point out that Dr Fuentes is now working for several top football teams, clean as a whistle that sport...

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BigDummy | 12 years ago
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I know who Giles Coren is actually.

He is a restaurant critic, and possibly a berk.

His finest work was a widely-circulated email to his sub-editor, tearing them a new arsehole for altering his copy so that his review of a restaurant ended on an unstressed syllable and lacked a couple of gay jokes.

I am not going to let him pollute my mind with irritation at him, and I suggest you all do likewise.

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yenrod | 12 years ago
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People play football - you dont play @ cycling beleive me...everyone who's got any degree of inteligence upon learning of my interest in cycling look at myself in admirance.

Obviously Mr Brazil is purely 'playing' the obvious card here here..its quite self evident that Mark Cavendish is unheard of YET to win what he has is exemplified talent!

I wont have heard of the many talented sports stars that are to be in the Olympics this year but it doesnt mean I'll look down on them in a derogatory & self demeaning manner...

Football fans HATE anything getting the better of their beloved sport...

I spent some time in Italy, a while back & an Italian told me that football is looked on as a working class sport then Cycling is a sport that you've got to have talent for...

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