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Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam ... again

Riding in the driving rain can be highly unpleasant and challenging enough without some motorist deciding to ruin your day with a close pass – but that’s what happened to road.cc reader Jon Griggs as he rode along Birmingham’s Hagley Road.

West Midlands Police launched their widely-praised close pass operation just over a year ago, with the message getting through to most motorists that they need to provide a safe passing distance when overtaking a cyclist.

Clearly, it didn’t get through to the driver of the white van 1 minute 50 seconds into this video who not only overtook Jon on a bus lane with inches to spare, but also undertook a car that was being driven in the outside lane.

Writing on YouTube, he said: “Typical standard of driving on Hagley Road. And so soon after someone from work was killed in another part of town on her way in.”

> Near Miss of the Day 42: Cyclist in Birmingham on way to vigil meets aggressive driver

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.

If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).

Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.

Born in Scotland, Simon moved to London aged seven and now lives in the Oxfordshire Cotswolds with his miniature schnauzer, Elodie. He fell in love with cycling one Saturday morning in 1994 while living in Italy when Milan-San Remo went past his front door. A daily cycle commuter in London back before riding to work started to boom, he's been news editor at road.cc since 2009. Handily for work, he speaks French and Italian. He doesn't get to ride his Colnago as often as he'd like, and freely admits he's much more adept at cooking than fettling with bikes.

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danthomascyclist [344 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Jump to 1:45

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burtthebike [1191 posts] 4 weeks ago
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A dangerous overtake indeed, especially in the weather conditions, and I hope the police take action.

Slightly off topic, but why not edit out the first 1' 45"?  It is irrelevant.

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Yorkshire wallet [1511 posts] 4 weeks ago
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danthomascyclist wrote:

Jump to 1:45

Tell me about it. I thought I was watching my idea of hell on loop.

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CyclingPreacher [7 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Reminder to self:  Stop watching these before you are too scared to go out on the roads ever again.

 

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DoctorFish [70 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Not all the point, considering the very close pass, but good to see that many other drivers were giving him suitable space.

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ConcordeCX [472 posts] 4 weeks ago
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I think the first 1:45 shows that in fact that is not the ‘typical standard of driving’ on that road. It all looked rather civilised and well-behaved to me, a predominantly-London cyclist, until WVM hove into view.

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beezus fufoon [945 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Van driver was probably pro-Europe and sensed the guy was breaking rule #24

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simonmb [546 posts] 4 weeks ago
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DoctorFish wrote:

Not all the point, considering the very close pass, but good to see that many other drivers were giving him suitable space.

I watched it all (kudos to Jon for making good progress throughout) - and this was my thought exactly. The big story is - always - how respectful and courteous motorists are. The headlines occur when, on occasion, a cyclist encounters a driver like the tit in the van. 

And the van didn't undertake the car in the righthand lane. I'm guessing he wanted to, but ran out of time, and pulled out again behind it to turn right. Even signalled his intention to move out. Still a tit though.

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aracer [13 posts] 4 weeks ago
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I also watched the whole video, and thought it was useful for context.

simonmb wrote:

And the van didn't undertake the car in the righthand lane. I'm guessing he wanted to, but ran out of time, and pulled out again behind it to turn right. Even signalled his intention to move out. Still a tit though.

I don't think that's what quite what happened - ironically enough the indication appears to be to overtake another cyclist. Though it looks awfully like the other cyclist also got a close pass, as the indication stopped whilst the van was still in the left lane behind the cyclist and the van still seems to be in the left lane after passing the other cyclist (I wonder if the driver also indicated before close passing Jon).

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Andy Eunson [9 posts] 4 weeks ago
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What are the double yellow lines on the left for? We don't have that in Canada. I assume the wiggly white lines are a caution for a crosswalk or something? 

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burtthebike [1191 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Pedant mode:

"Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam....."

Oh dear.  I'm sure Brummies everywhere will be writing in and making their views known.

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beezus fufoon [945 posts] 4 weeks ago
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burtthebike wrote:

Pedant mode:

"Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam....."

Oh dear.  I'm sure Brummies everywhere will be writing in and making their views known.

wait, what? there are Brummies everywhere? and they know fancy reading-writing skills?

why weren't we warned of this outflow of literate midlanders by the daily mail?

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burtthebike [1191 posts] 4 weeks ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:
burtthebike wrote:

Pedant mode:

"Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam....."

Oh dear.  I'm sure Brummies everywhere will be writing in and making their views known.

wait, what? there are Brummies everywhere? and they know fancy reading-writing skills?

why weren't we warned of this outflow of literate midlanders by the daily mail?

A valid point, but I'm sure most Brummies could spell the name of their home town.

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Grahamd [723 posts] 4 weeks ago
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burtthebike wrote:
beezus fufoon wrote:
burtthebike wrote:

Pedant mode:

"Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam....."

Oh dear.  I'm sure Brummies everywhere will be writing in and making their views known.

wait, what? there are Brummies everywhere? and they know fancy reading-writing skills?

why weren't we warned of this outflow of literate midlanders by the daily mail?

A valid point, but I'm sure most Brummies could spell the name of their home town.

What odds are Ladbrokes offering?

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Steve Cooper [9 posts] 4 weeks ago
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burtthebike wrote:

Pedant mode:

"Our regular feature highlighting close passes caught on camera from around the country – today it’s Birmingam....."

Oh dear.  I'm sure Brummies everywhere will be writing in and making their views known.

 

To be fair I used to work down south and everyone pronounced it Birminham, so another missed character isn't going to bother me.

 

Anyway nice to see other parts of Birmingham roads are just as bad as the ones I travel on......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N7RRdIZFmg

(Apologies I swear a bit on that video)

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Al__S [1268 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Andy Eunson wrote:

What are the double yellow lines on the left for? We don't have that in Canada. I assume the wiggly white lines are a caution for a crosswalk or something? 

Yellow lines on the edge of the carriageway are for no parking- strictly the legal term is "No Waiting". A single line applies at certain times, displayed on a nearby sign, double lines are "At Any Time". You could however at any time, as long as you not deemed to be obstructing, stop to load or unload. Prohibition of that is marked using marks on the kerb- single yellow for part time, double for at any time.

 

The marks apply legally to the entire width between the centre line of the carriageway and the highway boundary, including any verge or footway.

The wiggly lines are for pedestrian crossings- they mean "no stopping" with the obvious exception of allowing pedestrians to cross or in emergencies.

In london and some other places the yellow markings are instead Red, which are more restrictive.

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CygnusX1 [583 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Al__S wrote:
Andy Eunson wrote:

What are the double yellow lines on the left for? We don't have that in Canada. I assume the wiggly white lines are a caution for a crosswalk or something? 

Yellow lines on the edge of the carriageway are for no parking- strictly the legal term is "No Waiting". A single line applies at certain times, displayed on a nearby sign, double lines are "At Any Time". You could however at any time, as long as you not deemed to be obstructing, stop to load or unload. Prohibition of that is marked using marks on the kerb- single yellow for part time, double for at any time.

 

The marks apply legally to the entire width between the centre line of the carriageway and the highway boundary, including any verge or footway.

The wiggly lines are for pedestrian crossings- they mean "no stopping" with the obvious exception of allowing pedestrians to cross or in emergencies.

In london and some other places the yellow markings are instead Red, which are more restrictive.

Unless you're a taxi driver, in which case double yellows indicate Taxi Rank. angel

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antigee [439 posts] 4 weeks ago
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The wiggly lines are for pedestrian crossings- they mean "no stopping" with the obvious exception of allowing pedestrians to cross or in emergencies.

.....also I believe without looking it up and pertinent to the Hagley rd two lane layout "no overtaking"

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aracer [13 posts] 12 hours ago

...........I don't think that's what quite what happened - ironically enough the indication appears to be to overtake another cyclist. Though it looks awfully like the other cyclist also got a close pass, as the indication stopped whilst the van was still in the left lane behind the cyclist and the van still seems to be in the left lane after passing the other cyclist (I wonder if the driver also indicated before close passing Jon).

would say indicates late then moves drivers side wheels of van just to white lines then close passes the front cyclist, plenty of space to move across completely

might be reading too much into a rain spattered video but looks to me like the cyclist slows after the close pass

 

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dmack [35 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Great video quality!

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Wolfshade [204 posts] 4 weeks ago
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This is part of my daily commute! What you also don't get a good understanding on is how bad the road surface is along here, Earlier on there is a lovely raised hump runing with the crown of it about 2' from the curb. But then we have trunking for aseveral miles up the road which is all deterioating so there are many potholes, the rider did well to avoid them in such rain. I would concur that for the most part people give you room but as you can see it is only just wide enough for two lanes of travel in both directions. But you still get the occsaional person who thiks that bikes have 0 width...

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McHackety [4 posts] 4 weeks ago
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Jeez! I normally think the close passes posted on here aren't actually that close. But this one...SO CLOSE!  

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arowland [167 posts] 3 weeks ago
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Andy Eunson wrote:

What are the double yellow lines on the left for? We don't have that in Canada. I assume the wiggly white lines are a caution for a crosswalk or something?

The double yellow lines are to emphasise that parking is prohibited and complement road-side signage. And yes, the zig-zag lines either side of a crosswalk (or zebra crossing as we call them) show the zone where you may not park or overtake stopped vehicles.