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Will a new facility be a boon to the area, or a threat to nature and tranquility?

The company aiming to create a new cycle cafe and shop at the end of the 140-mile C2C (Sea to Sea) Ride have defended their plans in the light of 3,000 objections in the planning stage.

Northern Property Group has submitted a planning application to North Tyneside Council to build leisure facilities for cyclists, including a rooftop garden, viewing terrace and a shop, at the Spanish Battery.

Brothers Josh Boyle and Mark Maitland, and their friend Gareth Reece are seeking planning permission for the site, which cyclists say will be a huge improvement on the current finish line - a car park with a totem pole.

According to Sustrans, the C2C is the UK’s most popular challenge cycle route, and many charity riders choose it every year.

North Tyneside Council has approved the plans in principle, on land owned by Mark Maitland.

The C2C links Whitehaven or Workington with Sunderland or Tynemouth.

But the proposal has attracted fierce objection, with a petition signed by more than 3,000 opponents.

Many locals appear to fear it would disturb the tranquillity of the area, cause traffic problems and harm wildlife.

But project director Josh Boyle told the News Guardian: “We want to deliver a cycle hub to put Tynemouth on the cycle map. The hub will contain facilities hugely needed in Tynemouth, such as showers, changing facilities, bike workshops and service stations.

“From the outset, we have engaged with the public and adapted the plans after listening to the concerns raised, recently confirming that the opening hours would be reduced – a significant change.

“We have held our own petition, with more than 1,700 signatures who support the development. Supporting comments have also been made on the planning portal.

“We are looking at how we can address other concerns, while still providing a world-class cycling hub for all to enjoy.”

According to the Watch House Garden website, “Back in 2010 Josh Boyle completed the Coast to Coast cycle route. Elated and tired Josh was surprised to feel slightly disappointed that there wasn’t a place, a real finishing line, somewhere he could meet friends and family to mark his achievement.

“This moment facilitated a conversation with his brother Mark and their friend Gareth and The Watch House Garden project was born.

“At present The Coast to Coast Bike ride and Great North Bike Ride currently have no infrastructure to provide a welcoming end to a significant achievement. We want to change this!”

 

 

 

After an unpromising start, having to be bribed by her parents to learn to ride without stabilisers, Sarah became rather keener on cycling in her university years, and was eventually persuaded to upgrade to proper road cycling by the prospect of a shiny red Italian bike, which she promptly destroyed by trapping a pair of knickers in the rear derailleur. Sarah writes about about cycling every weekend on road.cc.

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brooksby [2709 posts] 3 months ago
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Huh! "C2C" stands for "sea to sea"? I'd always assumed "Coast to Coast". Shows what I know.  (Also: I'd never realised that Tynemouth was some rural idyll which needed to be protected...)

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Ramuz [311 posts] 3 months ago
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Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

How will bicycles "disturb the tranquillity of the area, cause traffic problems and harm wildlife"?

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don simon [1554 posts] 3 months ago
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So, North Tyneside doesn't want my money then.

Happy to go somewhere more welcoming.

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OldRidgeback [2826 posts] 3 months ago
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Obviously these terrible cyclists will bring drugs and crime and devil dogs running alongside them as they cycle that will attack local people and wildlife. Carrera MTB riding hoodie wearers will wheelie along the pavements, snarling at poor cowering pensioners while enormous streams of MAMILs will hold up traffic causing tailbacks stretching back miles and deranged BMXers will jump off walkways, frightening parents and small children.

It's of great importance that this project is stopped.

 

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Woldsman [207 posts] 3 months ago
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don simon wrote:

So, North Tyneside doesn't want my money then.

Happy to go somewhere more welcoming.

The Way of the Roses - from west to east - already has this sort of stuff (and icecreams and fish & chips) aplenty in Bridlington.  Plus the Yorkshire Dales and Yorkshire Wolds.  I've done it, and would again. 

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don simon [1554 posts] 3 months ago
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Woldsman wrote:
don simon wrote:

So, North Tyneside doesn't want my money then.

Happy to go somewhere more welcoming.

The Way of the Roses - from west to east - already has this sort of stuff (and icecreams and fish & chips) aplenty in Bridlington.  Plus the Yorkshire Dales and Yorkshire Wolds.  I've done it, and would again. 

Unfortunately I'll be in the area at the end of the month. I will, however, be in the car. Now that's going to confuse the thick fuckers.

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Yorkshire wallet [1575 posts] 3 months ago
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Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything?
Cleats worn out early - brexit
Puncture - brexit
Got dropped on a climb - brexit

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leqin [221 posts] 3 months ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

making a comment on somebody else's comment - brexit

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Leviathan [2868 posts] 3 months ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

Remoaner need something for the next couple of years until Brexit actually happens, then the 'I told you so' comments can start...

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BBL [13 posts] 3 months ago
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Anyone who starts the c2c in Workington or ends in Tynemouth is a wrang un and best avoided.

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ktache [627 posts] 3 months ago
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I can blame punctures on the vote to leave the EU now, or is it only once it actually happens?

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Yorkshire wallet [1575 posts] 3 months ago
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BBL wrote:

Anyone who starts the c2c in Workington or ends in Tynemouth is a wrang un and best avoided.

My mate is a solicitor in Workington. He's never short of clients. Probably all brexiters.

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Helmut D. Bate [86 posts] 3 months ago
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This thread needs handlebarcam to take back control of it.

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Jharrison5 [141 posts] 3 months ago
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Helmut D. Bate wrote:

This thread needs handlebarcam to take back control of it.

Helmut cam?

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Helmut D. Bate [86 posts] 3 months ago
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Oooh cheeky

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burtthebike [1222 posts] 3 months ago
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I suppose that, given the current attitude of so many people to cyclists, we shouldn't be surprised that 3,000 have objected to having a world class development for cyclists instead of a rather run down car park.

"Many locals appear to fear it would disturb the tranquillity of the area, cause traffic problems and harm wildlife."  Or to put it another way "We hate cyclists and we don't want them here even if it will improve things and help the local economy."

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beezus fufoon [956 posts] 3 months ago
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run down car park to some - local dogging hotspot to others

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ConcordeCX [509 posts] 3 months ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:

run down car park to some - local dogging hotspot to others

well, they'll just have to do their dogging on a tricycle, won't they.

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SNS1938 [124 posts] 3 months ago
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Is there a petition or place to support the proposal? I think we can smash 3000 signatures!!!

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burtthebike [1222 posts] 3 months ago
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SNS1938 wrote:

Is there a petition or place to support the proposal? I think we can smash 3000 signatures!!!

I'd sign it.  I tried looking for it, not very hard I admit, but if someone can post a link, I'm sure we'll get it to more than the 3k objectors.  I wonder how many of those objectors are actually local?

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Kendo [5 posts] 3 months ago
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spen [199 posts] 3 months ago
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You could always finish in Sunderland instead and pop into Fausto Coffee's (a painful pun of a name but a good one) or The Scullery, they do a fine club sandwich, stay overnight and cycle through to Tyneside the next day

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burtthebike [1222 posts] 3 months ago
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Kendo wrote:

https://idoxpublicaccess.northtyneside.gov.uk/online-applications/applic...

Thanks but that is the planning portal, not the petition.  I filled it in and sent it anyway, supporting the development.

"We have held our own petition, with more than 1,700 signatures who support the development. Supporting comments have also been made on the planning portal."

So where is the petition?

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RMurphy195 [117 posts] 3 months ago
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I haven't been to the area, no have I seen the plans so I can't comment on the objections or whatever.

However I do feel it's a shame that there is a problem, and that so many people have objected, to something that should make a contribution to the "Northern Powerhouse", however small it may be in the great scheme of things.

ADDENDUM: Just wizzed through the campaign web site, there seems to be a little more to this than meets the eye....

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WashoutWheeler [81 posts] 3 months ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

 

Normaly, I am intensely irritated by Americanisms but "Ramuz you just got owned"! Oh Yeah.

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Beecho [216 posts] 3 months ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

I'm still blaming Thatcher for all of them.

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beezus fufoon [956 posts] 3 months ago
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WashoutWheeler wrote:
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

 

Normaly, I am intensely irritated by Americanisms but "Ramuz you just got owned"! Oh Yeah.

it's so awesome that you're experimentalizing with never before tried motivationalizations

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captain_slog [416 posts] 3 months ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:
WashoutWheeler wrote:
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

 

Normaly, I am intensely irritated by Americanisms but "Ramuz you just got owned"! Oh Yeah.

it's so awesome that you're experimentalizing with never before tried motivationalizations

I'm sure I remember George W Bush using both of those.

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beezus fufoon [956 posts] 3 months ago
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captain_slog wrote:
beezus fufoon wrote:
WashoutWheeler wrote:
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Ramuz wrote:

Miserable, miserable people. And a Brexit region too, no?

Surely it's hard work shoehorning brexit into everything? Cleats worn out early - brexit Puncture - brexit Got dropped on a climb - brexit

 

Normaly, I am intensely irritated by Americanisms but "Ramuz you just got owned"! Oh Yeah.

it's so awesome that you're experimentalizing with never before tried motivationalizations

I'm sure I remember George W Bush using both of those.

quite possibly, but I'm betting the split infinitive was beyond even him

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fincon1 [4 posts] 3 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

Huh! "C2C" stands for "sea to sea"? I'd always assumed "Coast to Coast". Shows what I know. 

Haha. Same!

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