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Aqua Blue rider was told to say sorry to motorist for calling him a "stupid old man"...

British national road champion Adam Blythe is the latest pro cyclist to have taken to social media to protest about poor driving.

The Aqua Blue rider posted a series of three tweets this morning in which he revealed he had called the police after he was “almost ran off the road” by a motorist.

But rather than taking action against the driver, police made Blythe apologise to the couple in the car for having called the motorist a “stupid old man.”

The 27-year-old from Sheffield did not reveal whereabouts the incident happened.

The incident comes days after FDJ pro rider Davide Cimolai revealed that he had been knocked off his bike while riding near his home in Italy – where Astana’s Michele Scarponi was killed in a collision involving a van in April.

> FDJ pro’s safety plea after driver knocks him off bike in Italy

Last month, Tour de France champion Chris Froome said he had been deliberately rammed by a hit and run driver while on a training ride in the South of France.

> Chris Froome back on the bike day after being rammed by driver

The Team Sky rider was unhurt, but his Pinarello bike was written off.

Born in Scotland, Simon moved to London aged seven and now lives in the Oxfordshire Cotswolds with his miniature schnauzer, Elodie. He fell in love with cycling one Saturday morning in 1994 while living in Italy when Milan-San Remo went past his front door. A daily cycle commuter in London back before riding to work started to boom, he's been news editor at road.cc since 2009. Handily for work, he speaks French and Italian. He doesn't get to ride his Colnago as often as he'd like, and freely admits he's much more adept at cooking than fettling with bikes.

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bstock [13 posts] 2 months ago
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I've only bothered contacting the police once about a driver but the officer taking the statement seemed far more interested in my admission that I'd responded with verbal abuse than the fact that the driver had deliberately drove into me. Nothing happened of course it was a waste of time.

 

Seems a standard police reaction that cyclists responding with less than temperate language are a bigger problem than the aggressive drivers who deliberately target them.

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Zebulebu [55 posts] 2 months ago
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It's definitely getting worse out there. I used to think that was just a lot of hype, but in the past few months I've started to see more and more shitty behaviour from motorists on my training rides. I used to only see this when I was on club runs in large groups (angry twats not wanting to spend thirty seconds behind a group of cyclists has always been a problem and didn't get invented in the past few years) or when commuting (car drivers during the rush hour have never been noted for being courteous) but have, in the past four/five months:

Been close passed at least 20 times - two of those within six inches at 25mph (me)/50 mph (them)
Had four unprovoked attempts to run me off the road simply because I was on a narrow lane
Had two incidents where someone has thrown something at me out of the passenger side window, presumably 'for a laugh'
Had two lots of four shitbags in a clapped out banger intimidate me by driving up alongside me during an interval and revving their engine, leaning out of the window to try and grab my bars, flick fag butts at me and/or try and squeeze me into an approaching parked car
That's on top of someone attempting to kill me by opening his door on me whilst the car was moving because (his words when confronted by a witness) he 'didn't like cyclists'

I don't know what the solution is, but it's not pleasant

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don simon [1150 posts] 2 months ago
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What an absolute load of bollocks! Having to apologise to an old duffer for having a pop at him... No wonder people feel they can treat cyclists like shit.

Had a fella stop and bark at me after I'd given him the finger. He was on the wrong side of the road and essentially driving directly at me. Obviously my fault.

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WillRod [207 posts] 2 months ago
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I would refuse to apologise.

 

The UK seems to have become more aggressive. Another cyclist on Facebook was cycling along a shared use path by a canal and slowed behind an elderly couple as they went under a bridge, he rang his bell which was ignored, he then rung again and the old man squared up to him saying he heard the bell the first time and that he was being rude. 

 

Ive bought a mountain bike so I can generally avoid the dodgy drivers, but will still ride on the road, but try to avoid busy times and areas.

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mikecassie [58 posts] 2 months ago
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Similar response by the police, different incident though.  I'd a woman reverse into my car, we were stopped on the approach to a pedestrain crossing and the car in front of here wanted to reverse park, so she simply went into reverse, didn't look to see if there was anyone behind her!  I leaned on my horn as there was a car behind me and she eventually stopped.  

I got out and was a bit angry, not overly angry but angry as anyone would be if their two week old car gets reversed into.  The passenger was a gobby cow and gave me a heap of abuse, even tried to say I'd drove into them!  By then I'd composed myself as I saw there was no damage, she just touched the number plate but it was sooo close.

Went to the police straight away incase they tried to say I had drove into their car.  The forearm tattoos and vest look of the women didn't give me any confidence of their honesty.  So once the police had spoke with them and sorted things out they called me back and first thing he said was "you were rather angry when you approached them"  I did say I wasn't exactly over the moon but in the circumstances I was fair.  

So it seems in the eyes of the law, you can't swear or question peoples abilities even when they damage you or your property.  It's all fucked up.

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KevM [37 posts] 2 months ago
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Plod need to realise that screaming at drivers is a knee jerk reaction. When someone is close to causing you injury or taking your life, a massive dump of adrenaline needs to go somewhere and chances are it isn't going to be in a polite manner.

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Zebulebu [55 posts] 2 months ago
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mikecassie wrote:

Similar response by the police, different incident though.  I'd a woman reverse into my car, we were stopped on the approach to a pedestrain crossing and the car in front of here wanted to reverse park, so she simply went into reverse, didn't look to see if there was anyone behind her!  I leaned on my horn as there was a car behind me and she eventually stopped.  

I got out and was a bit angry, not overly angry but angry as anyone would be if their two week old car gets reversed into.  The passenger was a gobby cow and gave me a heap of abuse, even tried to say I'd drove into them!  By then I'd composed myself as I saw there was no damage, she just touched the number plate but it was sooo close.

Went to the police straight away incase they tried to say I had drove into their car.  The forearm tattoos and vest look of the women didn't give me any confidence of their honesty.  So once the police had spoke with them and sorted things out they called me back and first thing he said was "you were rather angry when you approached them"  I did say I wasn't exactly over the moon but in the circumstances I was fair.  

So it seems in the eyes of the law, you can't swear or question peoples abilities even when they damage you or your property.  It's all fucked up.

Classic copper tactic. See any argument between two parties as a 'domestic' and instantly try to apportion blame equally on both sides, shake hands and move on - largely as a result of:

a - not wanting to fill out a load of paperwork
b - not wanting to do any work in general

Vast generalisation there, but I speak from personal experience on dealing with the Police on a number of occasions for various things

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OldMixte [74 posts] 2 months ago
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According to the police this doesn't meet the threshold for prosecution, so what does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1RMtVWItNo&feature=youtu.be

Do you have to be injured before they will take action?

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Jimmy Ray Will [703 posts] 2 months ago
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Zebulebu wrote:

Classic copper tactic. See any argument between two parties as a 'domestic' and instantly try to apportion blame equally on both sides, shake hands and move on - largely as a result of:

a - not wanting to fill out a load of paperwork
b - not wanting to do any work in general

Vast generalisation there, but I speak from personal experience on dealing with the Police on a number of occasions for various things

To be fair to the police, rather thanit being a case they don't want to do any work, the reality os they don't want to waste time dealing with 'work' that will ultimately go no where. 

In the case of Adam Blythe, without evidence, it was his word against the couples, which will not lead to any conviction for anything, if there was anything that could be taken further anyway.

In the case of the example above... woman doesn't cause damage to another car... words were exchanged. 

Where can things go from there? 

Seems an effective tactic to start laying the blame on the person raising the issue, as it will, in all likelihood, get that person to get back in their box.

I remember getting t-boned by a landrover once, as it pulled out into my right of way on a mini roundabout. The police were very quick to tell me that I should think carefully before persuing the matter as everything suggested my speed was not appropriate for the junction.

On reflection, after taking their 'advice' and not taking the matter further, I am not sure how my speed could possibly have been judged. The driver saying he thought I was going too fast would suggest they had seen me. whether my speed was appropriate or not, the fact would be that they had misjudged my speed, or deliberately moved into my path.

Anyway,I digress. 

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Jackson [375 posts] 2 months ago
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Elderly drivers are completely oblivious on the roads. On top of that pensioners are probably the most entitled, selfish group in society. Adam Blythe's a bit of a hothead by some accounts but I certainly wouldn't have begrudged him whacking off a side mirror to wake the pair of coffin dodgers up.

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Nemesis [8 posts] 2 months ago
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Mr Blythe, make a complaint against police.

If your bike was scratched, and details weren't exchanged, (theirs not yours....) then that is a reportable damage only RTC. 

If the PC attending does not know this then he/she is negligent in their duty. 

This PC is letting down all the others who are 110% behind the Close Pass Initiative. 

Please remember, the police are broadly representative of society, and that includes dumbfucks, unfortunately 

 

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Yorkshire wallet [1252 posts] 2 months ago
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Leave off the police, there's more important areas that need policing, like Twitter and Facebook. 

I'd have told the police to sod off and asked them how they intended to take it any further. The man was old and stupid, hence stupid old man. Next factual statements will be deemed hate crimes. 

An alternative way of dealing with the problem would have been to drag the man from his car, run  him over, put the bike next to him and then it would have cost you £80. 

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john1967 [28 posts] 2 months ago
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I too would have refused to aplologise.  If he was being stupid and if he was old and a man then it was an accurate description and not abusive.

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stewieatb [296 posts] 2 months ago
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Just for a bit of variation, I had an incident a few months ago where I was punishment passed and then threatened by the driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTAKLqYTUc

I did quite a lot of swearing at the time, but the police made no real comment about it after viewing the video. They took action against the driver but treated it as ASB rather than a driving issue - warning under S59 Police Reform Act.

This was Cheshire Police, BTW.

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Barraob1 [19 posts] 2 months ago
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Wow, nearly killed but has to apologise. Great to see that tax payers money at work, useless shower.

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grumpyoldcyclist [49 posts] 2 months ago
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Jackson wrote:

Elderly drivers are completely oblivious on the roads. On top of that pensioners are probably the most entitled, selfish group in society. Adam Blythe's a bit of a hothead by some accounts but I certainly wouldn't have begrudged him whacking off a side mirror to wake the pair of coffin dodgers up.

Steady on there youngster, I get a pension and probably fall into the category of what you call elderly. I am not oblivious on the road (to other road users I presume) whether in my car or on my bike. Indeed I regularly report car drivers for close passing and mobile use to our very helpful local police force using video footage and I've confronted other cyclists for running red lights.

Based on your outburst, especially the bit about condoning criminal damage,  I might have you down as a shallow, spotty, hoody wearing, work shy teenager that needs to learn and earn some respect. However that would be jumping to conclusions and making generalisations, so I won't do it.

Have a nice day

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Fifth Gear [114 posts] 2 months ago
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According to Hants Police this did not meet the threshold for careless driving. They were able to decide this without bothering to view the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OA8jKH7qhQ

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psole69 [1 post] 2 months ago
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Had a very similar incident last year while cycling with my wife in Cornwall. 

We were both cycling in a narrow country lane when a car from behind accelerated very hard while holding his hand on the horn. In 20+ years of cycling it was the closest past I have ever experienced. If I hadn't dived into the head I would have been hit that is for sure. 

I knew there was a junction up ahead so decided to increase my pace to see if I could catch him up. Oddly enough the driver had chosen to pull into a turning space, sat on his mobile phone with the window down. I thought I would approach him as maybe he really didn't realise how close he was. 

His reply to my question "was it you that just overtook us back there" was, why you got a problem? To which I told him he was very very close. 

His reaction was then to get out of the car and grab a foot long spanner from the door pocket and start waving it at me shouting "you got a problem". With this my wife turned up to which it eventually settled down, after him ranting and raving. 

We took the plate and phoned the police, we both refused to cycle off while he was sat there. He even told us to phone the police. He did eventually drive off though, at speed. 

After various police phone  calls, it turned out he was known to the police and incidents with cyclists. They paid him a visit, funnily he does not remember waving a spanner at us! 

The final call we received from the police however was to basically tell us off for approaching him in an aggressive manner, and that I was really in the wrong! 

Complete joke and a waste of time! 

 

 

 

 

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OnTheRopes [175 posts] 2 months ago
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Adam Blythe is a professional cyclist and will therefore do the right thing to not give his sponsors bad publicity. The sensible thing to do was apologise and keep a low profile. Refusing to do so on some moral high ground risks inflaming the situation and upsetting sponsors.

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madcarew [379 posts] 2 months ago
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Barraob1 wrote:

Wow, nearly killed but has to apologise. Great to see that tax payers money at work, useless shower.

I can't see any evidence in the story of " nearly killed".  Presumably you'd like to see the taxpayers money at work spending  thousands on a court case with little different result. 

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madcarew [379 posts] 2 months ago
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OnTheRopes wrote:

Adam Blythe is a professional cyclist and will therefore do the right thing to not give his sponsors bad publicity. The sensible thing to do was apologise and keep a low profile. Refusing to do so on some moral high ground risks inflaming the situation and upsetting sponsors.

I'm not sure his social media campaign for other cyclists to wave the finger at ths couple fits with your scenario.

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Jackson [375 posts] 2 months ago
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madcarew wrote:
OnTheRopes wrote:

Adam Blythe is a professional cyclist and will therefore do the right thing to not give his sponsors bad publicity. The sensible thing to do was apologise and keep a low profile. Refusing to do so on some moral high ground risks inflaming the situation and upsetting sponsors.

I'm not sure his social media campaign for other cyclists to wave the finger at ths couple fits with your scenario.

Though he was quick to weigh in on poor old Hayden McCormick for employing that same finger...

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J90 [404 posts] 2 months ago
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People are cuuuunts.

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BikeJon [188 posts] 2 months ago
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I was brought to recall this:-

https://youtu.be/kKukWdXaELA

from 07:15.

Sometimes laughing at the ridiculous is the best option. I'm glad Adam is ok. 

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Redvee [333 posts] 2 months ago
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bstock wrote:

Seems a standard police reaction that cyclists responding with less than temperate language are a bigger problem than the aggressive drivers who deliberately target them.

 

Same happened to me, a car changed lanes to close pass me but did 'warn' me of his approach by blasting the horn from 3 bike lengths away. As the car drove away I gave a middle finger wave goodbye and called the driver a wanker. Reported it to the locla plod with video evidence and the officer said he'd written to the owner but didn't hear back from the owner of the car but did tell me to be careful of my language.

What language are we supposed to use when our lives are threatened by drivers? Do we thank them for not hitting and injuring us?

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R0b1et [6 posts] 2 months ago
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OldMixte wrote:

Do you have to be injured before they will take action?

That's not enough. I had my shoulder reconstructed yesterday after I was hit by a van who "didn't see me" (read didn't look properly) - police taking no action.

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brooksby [2396 posts] 2 months ago
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Redvee wrote:
bstock wrote:

Seems a standard police reaction that cyclists responding with less than temperate language are a bigger problem than the aggressive drivers who deliberately target them.

 

Same happened to me, a car changed lanes to close pass me but did 'warn' me of his approach by blasting the horn from 3 bike lengths away. As the car drove away I gave a middle finger wave goodbye and called the driver a wanker. Reported it to the locla plod with video evidence and the officer said he'd written to the owner but didn't hear back from the owner of the car but did tell me to be careful of my language.

What language are we supposed to use when our lives are threatened by drivers? Do we thank them for not hitting and injuring us?

Exactly; and don't also forget to doff your cap in an appropriate manner /sarcasm=off

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brooksby [2396 posts] 2 months ago
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R0b1et wrote:
OldMixte wrote:

Do you have to be injured before they will take action?

That's not enough. I had my shoulder reconstructed yesterday after I was hit by a van who "didn't see me" (read didn't look properly) - police taking no action.

OT but that's how I feel about the creep towards daylight running lights: if someone doesn't notice an overweight (slightly!)  six foot bloke on a bicycle then they're just *not looking*, and fluorescent clothing and DRL will not make a difference...

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keirik [148 posts] 2 months ago
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The most rabid anti-cyclist person I know is a Sergeant in the local police force.

He has in the past said all cyclists should be driven into and knocked off the road.

Don't expect any help and you won't be disappointed

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mike the bike [921 posts] 2 months ago
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Jackson wrote:

Elderly drivers are completely oblivious on the roads. On top of that pensioners are probably the most entitled, selfish group in society. 

 

All generalisations are untrue. (Including this one?)

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