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A24 cycling ban rejected by Surrey County Council

No improvements for adjacent shared use path either

A petition calling on Surrey County Council (SCC) to ban cycling on a dual carriageway between Leatherhead and Dorking has been rejected. It was said that such a move ‘would set an unjustified precedent’ and would not support the council’s cycling strategy.

Leatherhead driving instructor Martin Davies came in for a good deal of criticism for starting the petition, but subsequently claimed that it had been deliberately provocative as a means of drumming up support. He said that his actual intention was to try and persuade the council to improve the adjacent cycle path.

The opening paragraph of the petition read: “Please make it illegal for cyclists to use the A24 Dual Carriageway between Givons Grove roundabout, Leatherhead and Ashcombe Road, Dorking. It is very dangerous for all road users, especially the cyclists. There is a very good cycle lane off to both side of this road that many cyclists already use therefore it is clearly fit for purpose.”

The petition attracted 306 signatures and was discussed on November 9. Davies was given three minutes to speak.

Speaking afterwards, he told the Surrey Mirror that he was disappointed that the shared use path would not be improved.

"Obviously I am a bit disappointed that none of the ideas are going to be taken any further in any real way but I am not disappointed that the 'banning' part was rejected as I never expected that in the first place.

"I used my presentation to suggest that they improve the cycle footpath on the road by creating a cycle road with a separate pedestrian path instead of the current shared pathway.

"But as you know it was rejected. They cited budgetary concerns, which is understandable, but I was disappointed that there were no plans to apply for any funding in the future. I was also a little sad about the way I was met with a wall of apathy for the whole thing and to be told it comes down to money. But then I suppose in the end it always does."

John Furey, cabinet member for highways at SCC, said that a recent Coast to Capital Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP) bid for cycle track maintenance had been unsuccessful. The bid had included comprehensive resurfacing and, in some parts, widening, of the whole length of the cycle track.

"There are more requests for maintenance and cycle facility improvements than there are resources available and these have to be prioritised, and balanced, with the requests from other road users," he said.

Commenting on the idea of a cycling ban, he said:

"Surrey County Council have the powers to prohibit the use of a road by cyclists, but not a duty to do so. The Prohibition of Cyclists Traffic Orders are made under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984, and this would require extensive consultation.

"This type of proposal would also require the support of the police, as they would be responsible for enforcing any traffic order of this type.

"This proposal would set an unjustified precedent that would also create an additional budget pressure for the cost of consultation, advertising and potentially enacting a traffic order, signs and enforcement.

"It is acknowledged that this section of the A24 formed part of the Olympic Cycle Route, in 2012, and the use of the road has brought cycling tourism to the area.

"Any proposal to ban cycling from the A24 would not support the Surrey County Council's cycling strategy, in particular that "we will support cycling as healthy, inclusive and affordable."

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BarryBianchi | 6 years ago
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This is the Surrey Council that abolished their Cycling Officer post.  So this isn't just about cash then.  Oh no.

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Jitensha Oni | 7 years ago
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\(゚ヮ゚)/

I make a distinction between "unnecessarily" bad driving and (can't think of a better term) "necessarily" bad driving. The latter is, for example, the close pass before or (more usually) after a pinch point when you're in primary, because the driver's so desperate to GIF. I rarely report these. The former is the close pass when there are hundreds of metres of clear carriageway in front. These get reported to the police in great detail, with my bike camera footage.

The worst areas near me for unnecessarily bad driving are east of the A24 east of Ewell towards Croydon and, wait for it, Leatherhead. When I first read this story. I wondered how many of the local drivers had been instructed by this cretin.

Anyway, if Cllr Furey comes out against something that might make motorists' life easier, you know it's terribly misguided.

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DaveE128 replied to Jitensha Oni | 7 years ago
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Jitensha Oni wrote:

I make a distinction between "unnecessarily" bad driving and (can't think of a better term) "necessarily" bad driving. The latter is, for example, the close pass before or (more usually) after a pinch point when you're in primary, because the driver's so desperate to GIF. I rarely report these. The former is the close pass when there are hundreds of metres of clear carriageway in front. These get reported to the police in great detail, with my bike camera footage.

That sounds an awful lot like you're justifying dangerous impatience to me. I report a dangerously close pass  to op crackdown (Sussex Police) whether the driver should have waited or they should have passed wider and could easily have done so. Either is reprehensible and requires education.surprise

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Man of Lard | 7 years ago
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Of course they could say the petitioner is correct and in order to fix it they're going to reduce the speed limit to 30mph and stick some average speed cameras on it... 

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ibike | 7 years ago
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The off-road cycle path on that section of the A24 is actually one of the better routes in the district and is very popular with ordinary utility/commuter cyclists and families. The confusion arises because of the huge popularity of road/racing cycling in the area whose riders usually stick to the road (a 50mph dual carriageway).

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nniff replied to ibike | 7 years ago
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ibike wrote:

Parts of the off-road cycle path on that section of the A24 are actually some of the better routes in the district and are very popular with ordinary utility/commuter cyclists and families. The confusion arises because the rest of it is useless.

 

Fixed that for you

;o)

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HalfWheeler replied to nniff | 7 years ago
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nniff wrote:

I'm a 'fixed that for you' wank puffin.

There, fixed that for you.

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DaveE128 replied to nniff | 7 years ago
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nniff wrote:

ibike wrote:

Parts of the off-road cycle path on that section of the A24 are actually some of the better routes in the district and are very popular with ordinary utility/commuter cyclists and families. The confusion arises because the rest of it is useless.

 

Fixed that for you

;o)

I agree - some of that path (eg Dorking to Zig Zag Road on the east side of the road) is truly and unforgiveably awful with poor design, kerbs to negotiate, potholes of pinch puncture dimensions, awful surface, weeds growing out of the path, overgrown, etc etc.

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Daveyraveygravey replied to DaveE128 | 5 years ago
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DaveE128 wrote:

nniff wrote:

ibike wrote:

Parts of the off-road cycle path on that section of the A24 are actually some of the better routes in the district and are very popular with ordinary utility/commuter cyclists and families. The confusion arises because the rest of it is useless.

 

Fixed that for you

;o)

I agree - some of that path (eg Dorking to Zig Zag Road on the east side of the road) is truly and unforgiveably awful with poor design, kerbs to negotiate, potholes of pinch puncture dimensions, awful surface, weeds growing out of the path, overgrown, etc etc.

 

So is that any different to most of the actual roads in the UK?!

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