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The Pedal Os take the podium, plus all the runners up and spot prizes

So, the Tour is over for another year. All that's left are empty bidons squashed beneath the wheels of the Champs Elysèes traffic, and other similarly poignant metaphors. Still, it was a good race this year, made all the more exciting, we're sure you agree, by the inaugural road.cc Fantasy Tour de France competition. And it's time to announce the winners!

So, step onto the podium, alexlnumber1. The Pedal Os have been there or thereabouts for most of the race, and 1800 points over the life of the race is a remarkable total. That's an average of over 85 points per stage, which makes everyone in the road.cc office look like a dismal no-hoper. We can't compete with that kind of scoring, although Simon would like to point that he came a very creditable 36th.

So that means that alexlnumber1 is our first Fantasy Tour winner, and will be taking delivery of a very smart KHS Flite 300 bike courtesy of game sponsors Cyclesurgery. Well done!

There were ten Cyclesurgery jerseys up for grabs too, and they'll go to the following teams who ranked from second to joint tenth overall:

simonking (simonking): 1782 points
azkune (meninblack): 1704 points
saioarri (saioarri): 1685 points
Yella Jersea (djtrax): 1668 points
fdringo (antomeno): 1664 points
going nowhere fast (lessthanross): 1648 points
conquistadors (only1ghost): 1642 points
Devolder (ben1991): 1642 points
peloton de fer (lordthorne): 1639 points
Get off and push... (homer187): 1639 points

Well done to all of you chaps too.

Lastly there's a few more spot prizes to announce for the final three stages. Friday's sprint-friendly run into Bordeaux was taken by second-placed team simonking, with 109 points. Team Bean were the time trial specialists, picking up a haul of 85 points in the race against time, and on the Champs Elysèes it was simonking again, making a late run for the line with 106 points and closing the gap on the Pedal Os but just coming up short in the end. Since he's just won a tee though (and a jersey, the lucky scamp) we'll award the spot prize to next-placed team Vagabonds with 89 points, who edged out conquistadors on the same score by dint of not just having won a jersey for a top ten place.

Well, thanks to everyone who played. It's been fun, and much more successful than we ever could have imagined. In the end we had over 1,800 teams entered, and while some fell by the wayside there were still over 1,500 people playing when the peloton reached Paris. Needless to say we'll be doing it all again next year, so tell your friends.

Next up is the Vuelta. We'll be running a Fantasy league, and we want your input. What has and hasn't worked for you in the Tour? Maybe you'd like some scoring changes, maybe you needed/wanted more transfers. Or less. Whetever, post a comment below and we'll take them all into account as we take the spanners to the game engine ahead of the Vuelta rollout in August.

Dave is a founding father of road.cc and responsible for kicking the server when it breaks. In a previous life he was a graphic designer but he's also a three-time Mountain Bike Bog Snorkelling world champion, and remains unbeaten through the bog. Dave rides all sorts of bikes but tends to prefer metal ones. He's getting old is why.

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John_the_Monkey [436 posts] 5 years ago
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I enjoyed it - the transfer element keeps the interest going, although, as my failure to remember to do it a couple of times shows, it does need some degree of personal organisation.

The fixed credit value may need tweaking - I had Geraint Thomas in my team from the off, but he, and some other emergent secret squirrel choices were stonkingly good value as their credit cost didn't changeas they, ahem, revealed themselves. Maybe cost should be adjusted according to position in the GC/jersey competitions?

Whatever, "Hat" to you all, I enjoyed playing!

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storeysnotinfrance [6 posts] 5 years ago
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the fantasy tdf was fun and well thought out...

a suggestion re point-scoring... all individual jersey holders and, perhaps the top three (or five) on a daily basis in each jersey competition should be rewarded instead of just the yellow and white jerseys.

mountain points should be as awarded on the road

ns

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KMcD [27 posts] 5 years ago
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The whole system was almost perfect. The only thing I would suggest changing is giving a free/extra transfer where are rider has abandoned.

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wossington [11 posts] 5 years ago
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I agree with KMcD on the free transfer if a rider abandons.

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cowspassage [43 posts] 5 years ago
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Err, who won the spot prize last Thursday (Tourmalet). 171 points?!?

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dave atkinson [6204 posts] 5 years ago
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yeah that was you, CP. didn't we announce that? lazy journalism.  1

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stereojet [143 posts] 5 years ago
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I thought the whole thing worked perfectly. no need for more transfers -- limiting it to two per day kept it interesting and tough.

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cslattery [84 posts] 5 years ago
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There needs to be points awarded for the leaders in every jersey competition each day, not just yellow and White, but otherwise it all works very well!

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dave atkinson [6204 posts] 5 years ago
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plenty of people have mentioned points for all the jerseys, so we'll certainly take that on board for the vuelta.

free transfer if a rider abandons: we're going to have a play with the system for removing riders etc, so that will be a part of it.

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djtrax [22 posts] 5 years ago
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It would be good to be able review each previous stage results. It should just be a pivot on the current rider's results.

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aworthycause [29 posts] 5 years ago
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Great overall, but a few points for everyday of just holding onto a jersey would be good. Unless it was already there and explains why I performed so poorly.

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Super Domestique [1596 posts] 5 years ago
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Got a good start in the prologue but went downhill from there!

Great fun though.

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bobmilligan [65 posts] 5 years ago
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I think it was pretty much sorted from the off.
Another transfer per stage would make the game easier to play.

Re. John the Monkey. I thought it was a good thing that you could pick up a relative unkown for next to nothing but score big points. It allowed me to score well on the prologue and catch up a bit when my expensive rider's bothered-o-meters where on zero.

Also I would like to be able to pick more than two riders from a single team.

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Jon Burrage [998 posts] 5 years ago
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How about banning anyone who averaged over 80 points per stage, clearly on epo to allow them to think quicker and clearer than the rest of us.

I thought it worked really well, as with JtM I forgot to transfer on a few stages but as it was all for fun I thought it was great, transfers kept me in touch and made me really try and keep up to date with all the domestiques too.

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Chuffy [201 posts] 5 years ago
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Excellent work all round chaps!

Transfers:- could we have the option of reversing/re-doing transfers before the 11am deadline?

Lanterne Rouge - for GC placing please? Then it's there to play for, rather than being a totally random 10 pts.

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Champions [7 posts] 5 years ago
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Bring on the next Tour Fantasy League !!!
Need to win a new ride......

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alexlnumber1 [49 posts] 5 years ago
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I believe the rules were absolutely 100% perfect and do not need to be changed in the future at all ever.
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dave atkinson [6204 posts] 5 years ago
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loving that sig. i'm not going to shout about my 85th place  1

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italiafirenze [70 posts] 5 years ago
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It seems my team abandoned after Stage 9, no points scored after that?

Did I finish outside the time allowance on a tricky alpe?

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bikeandy61 [524 posts] 5 years ago
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As seems to be a fairly general consensus so far, the system was pretty much spot on first time. Obviously don't want to introduce too many complications. Transfers - really don't think more than 2 would be good. It makes you think about what you are doing. Maybe one "bonus" transfer that could only be played once.

The only negative I had was that I had Charlie Wegelius in my squad for at least one day after he had packed. I assume that was just a human error in deletting him from the list. Really looking forward to the Vuelta even more now.

IMHO too there is no need to abandon the competition if you don't get offered a "big" prize. I'm happy to play it for fun. A t-Shirt or some stikers would be ample (if I were to improve my performance).

Cheers for adding some fun to this years Tour.

Andy S

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dave atkinson [6204 posts] 5 years ago
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italiafirenze - you probably had riders on your roster abandon, and didn't replace them: you only score if you have nine riders.

That being said, we'll be changing that for the next grand tour. riders that abandon will just be greyed out, you'll be able to transfer them for free and the rest of your riders will still score. the 'full roster' rule is simply there to stop people spending 150 credits on their five favourite riders and not filling their squad, but it made the rest of the game more complicated.

you're right bikeandy61, we didn't consistently remove the riders which caused a problem. the main issue is that we couldn't remove them in a transfer window in case teams had already made their transfers. so we're looking at that.

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rcs500 [55 posts] 5 years ago
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I think there should be more emphasis placed on the overall Tour winners. Since Alberto Contador didn't win a stage, he scored significantly less than Schleck and a handful of other guys further down in the GC.

Shouldn't there be a big bonus for having the race winner (or top 5) on your team?

Also, I hate the idea of changing the point values mid-race. Then, if you don't have time to get to your computer and change your lineup, it could suddenly be over the point total. Plus, it's part of the fun finding the guys that are having a better-than-expected Tour.

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Jon Burrage [998 posts] 5 years ago
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rcs, Im not sure I agree. Alberto could have gone for the stage wins but didnt. Schleck did, yes contador got the maillot jaune but perhaps it should reflect the stage successes of riders.

I do think, along with a few posters from above that I would have liked chartreau to recieve KoM points throughout his wearing of the jersey...mountain stage or not. Other than that, spot on guys.

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dave atkinson [6204 posts] 5 years ago
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Since Alberto Contador didn't win a stage, he scored significantly less than Schleck and a handful of other guys further down in the GC

contador was second overall in scoring. schleck outscored him because he's also in the white jersey comp, take those points away (86) and he's below bertie.

the idea of including transfers, and weighting stage wins (and breaks) quite heavily, is that it's more interesting than just picking a team and seeing how it does. you could do a big bonus for top 5, but then everyone would just transfer them in, so it's kind of pointless.

One thing we have considered is a bonus based on your *initial* team: extra points for picking jersey winners from the off.

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English Velo [1 post] 5 years ago
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Perhaps prizes for stage winners is in order and will definately have mass appeal.
Perhaps u could issue a new combined category (where a riders ranked position in all classements(excluding youth) is added up and divided by 3 to produce the best average rider in classements)  4

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Colonels Bucket [8 posts] 5 years ago
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Looking forward to the Vuelta! Great work folks!!

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E11a [78 posts] 5 years ago
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I rediscovered cycling this year and this was the first time I watched the TdF. It was fantastic and the competition added that extra level of excitement. I agree with djtrax (26/07/10 12:21) about viewing previous stage results though. Brilliant work. Can't wait for the Vuelta!

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martyntr [119 posts] 5 years ago
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Also looking forward to the Vuelta now.. The addition of Road.cc's FTDF has resulted in an obsession over the last 3 weeks. Often my interest seems to wane about half way through most TDF's, but this has allowed me to remain focused  3

I agree with the above regards transfers. You should be allowed a free transfer for abandonees. I think the 2 transfer limit must stay.

Not bad result for me top 10%, as an MTB convert.....  3

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guitarromantic [2 posts] 5 years ago
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The interface for adding riders was pretty awful, having to reload the page to figure out if I could afford them or already had a Green Jersey etc. Maybe next year do a nice AJAX-powered drag and drop thing so we can see at a glance what we're doing?

Also, the mobile site (on my Nokia e71) had this incredibly irritating feature where the yellow header stuff scrolled down as I scrolled the page and floated above the content, blocking out at least 20% of the screen. Don't do that next year either!

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pthompson652 [1 post] 5 years ago
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 1 Really enjoyed the Fantasy TDF and reckon the 2 transfers per stage is just about right. Hope you do a Fantasy comp. for all the major Tours, and maybe tweak the prizes so there's more for us lesser mortals lower down the rankings. Keep it goin' Peter T. Bangor N.Ireland

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