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Police are appealing for witnesses after a cyclist abused a driver, reached into his car and stole his keys. The apparent road rage incident took place at around midday on Sunday December 13 in Christchurch in Dorset.

The Western Daily Press reports that a man in his sixties was driving a green Fiat Punto along Bridge Street toward the town centre and had stopped in traffic when he was approached by the cyclist.

The cyclist was said to have been shouting and behaving aggressively toward the driver. He then leant through the car window and took the keys from the ignition before cycling off. The driver also sustained a minor injury to his face, including a small cut under his eye, where the cyclist reportedly hit him.

The suspect is described as a white man in his 30s and of slim build, wearing black fitted cycling gear with a wide blue horizontal band across his lower back and cycling glasses.

He was cycling alongside another male cyclist who was wearing black cycling gear with yellow markings on it who was not involved in the incident.

Police Constable Peter Simpson, of East Dorset police, said:

“I am able to release a photo of the suspect and ask anyone who recognises him from his clothing or bike to contact me.

“I am also keen to speak with the man cycling alongside him as his information may help us with our enquiries.

“I would urge anyone who witnessed the incident, or who saw the cyclists in the area, to please call me. All calls will be treated in strict confidence.”

Anyone with information should contact Dorset Police on 101 quoting incident number 13:179. Alternatively, you can speak to Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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ron611087 [356 posts] 1 year ago
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Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

Note to any copper reading this: Vigilantism is a symptom of nonexistent, insufficient, or inefficient law enforcement.

But that would never apply in the UK would it?

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mrmo [2094 posts] 1 year ago
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ron611087 wrote:

Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

 

 

Tend to agree, whilst taking the keys isn't right you have to ask what led upto this? 

 

Seen whilst wandering home earlier, a car pulled out of a parking place straight in front of a bus, bus served onto pavement to avoid. Driver was completely oblivious of the world around him, moral, just because the driver doesn't think they did anything wrong doesnt mean they did nothing wrong. 

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brooksby [2576 posts] 1 year ago
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ron611087 wrote:

Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

It does seem like there's a big chunk of the story missing. Nobody just does that for no reason at all 

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KiwiMike [1307 posts] 1 year ago
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mrmo wrote:
ron611087 wrote:

Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

 

 

Tend to agree, whilst taking the keys isn't right...

I'd argue if the driver is intoxicated, drugged, or clearly unfit to drive due to age/medical condition/attitude, you have an *obligation* to yourself and other road users to remove their ability to operate a lethal item of machinery.

If you remove a knife from someone brandishing it about and shouting angrily you'll be hailed a 'have-a-go hero'.  Remove the keys from a mum in charge of a 2.5-ton 4x4 who's texting merrily away on the school run alongside footpaths full of kids? I wonder what the press would say about that...

I think in this age of utterly ineffectual road policing and equally ineffectual sentencing we will see a lot more of this sort of thing.

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Chuck [588 posts] 1 year ago
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ron611087 wrote:

Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

 

Well, he might be. You can't say on the basis of this article.

That said, it's reasonable to assume there's more to this than a cyclist riding up to a random driver out of the blue and taking his keys - whether the driver is aware of it or not, he's clearly ticked the guy off somehow.

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Kent H [4 posts] 1 year ago
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Police are looking for 'a white man in his 30s and of slim build'.

Well that narrows it down then.
 

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Dr_Lex [454 posts] 1 year ago
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mrmo wrote:
ron611087 wrote:

Mmm. And the drivers the innocent party in this?

 

 

Tend to agree, whilst taking the keys isn't right you have to ask what led upto this? 

 

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Yup; as TFA mentions that "[h]e was cycling alongside another male cyclist", I'm going with driver objecting to his riding two abreast & it escalating from there. 

 

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rjfrussell [397 posts] 1 year ago
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FFS, is it any wonder cyclists have a bad name.

Presumably if an American cyclist got out his arsenal and shot up an entire highway you fucktards would come on here and say that it was perfectly justifiable because someone passed him a bit too close.

We need to make it safer to cycle on our streets and roads, and that is never going to happen if idiots like this behave like this, and then we try to defend it

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

It doesn't matter what the "full story" is.  It doesn't matter what "led up to it".  It is still utterly unacceptable.

We must say so, if we are to have any hope of winning the war and making streets safe for cyclists.

Fomenting the "them-and-us" attitude that so many do, is only going to provoke those driving the 2tonne weapons, and those riding the 8kg steeds are going to come off second if that happens.

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Jimmy Ray Will [761 posts] 1 year ago
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I totally disagree with the above.
Doffing our caps and being submissive little sheep will not make a jot of difference.
I don't have to defend anyone's actions other than my own... I am not responsible for other cyclists actions in the same way no one else is responsible for mine.
The first post had it... people will do what they think they can get away with... and people will respond in a way they think appropriate and again what they can get away with.
Cycling evangelists will jot change a bloody thing... only better policing can make a difference.

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Jimmy Ray Will [761 posts] 1 year ago
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Further more, I have been in a situation where the most appropriate action would have been to confiscate the keys from a driver... given a chance. It would have hampered their ability to repeatedly try and run me and a couple of others over.

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Krd51 [30 posts] 1 year ago
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rjfrussell wrote:

FFS, is it any wonder cyclists have a bad name.

Presumably if an American cyclist got out his arsenal and shot up an entire highway you fucktards would come on here and say that it was perfectly justifiable because someone passed him a bit too close.

We need to make it safer to cycle on our streets and roads, and that is never going to happen if idiots like this behave like this, and then we try to defend it

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

It doesn't matter what the "full story" is.  It doesn't matter what "led up to it".  It is still utterly unacceptable.

We must say so, if we are to have any hope of winning the war and making streets safe for cyclists.

Fomenting the "them-and-us" attitude that so many do, is only going to provoke those driving the 2tonne weapons, and those riding the 8kg steeds are going to come off second if that happens.

the fact is bad car drivers kill, cyclist don't no matter how bad they cycle!

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ron611087 [356 posts] 1 year ago
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rjfrussell wrote:

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

Judge all you like, vigilantism is a social response to poor policing, and it will occur in every society where those conditions exist.

My only surprise is why it took so long.

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mcmahonsport [12 posts] 1 year ago
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Yes, I've done that twice--disarming a person of a dangerous weapon I call it. I leave the keys in the local police station. Coppers do nothing about it.

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. . [186 posts] 1 year ago
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One of my biggest regrets is NOT doing this when I'd just witnessed a motorcyclist knocked off and seriously injured at a junction.  The car driver and passenger swapped seats then drove off.  I got their reg number but it turned out the car was stolen.   As far as I know they were never caught.

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FrankH [57 posts] 1 year ago
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rjfrussell wrote:

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

It doesn't matter what the "full story" is.  It doesn't matter what "led up to it".  It is still utterly unacceptable.

I must say I agree. Most cyclists are drivers as well. Can any cyclist/driver put his hand up and say he's never made a mistake? I doubt it. I've come to expect this holier than thou attitude from the commenters here but sometimes it takes me by surprise. A bit of give and take is needed, we can't all be perfect.

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mithrasm [8 posts] 1 year ago
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FrankH]</p>

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wrote:

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

 

I totally agree.

There may well have been something that led up to this.  Or there may not.  We don't know.

Behaviour like this is evidence that the cyclist in question will act in an unacceptable fashion.  From the evidence it is reasonable to think he is just a dangerous individual who happens to ride a bike as well.

Unfortunately road.cc and the comments on it show that cyclists are as prone to over-inflated feelings of self-importance as car drivers.

Not that I am intolerant of intolerant people at all!!!!

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FluffyKittenofT... [1792 posts] 1 year ago
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rjfrussell wrote:

FFS, is it any wonder cyclists have a bad name.

Presumably if an American cyclist got out his arsenal and shot up an entire highway you fucktards would come on here and say that it was perfectly justifiable because someone passed him a bit too close.

We need to make it safer to cycle on our streets and roads, and that is never going to happen if idiots like this behave like this, and then we try to defend it

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

It doesn't matter what the "full story" is.  It doesn't matter what "led up to it".  It is still utterly unacceptable.

We must say so, if we are to have any hope of winning the war and making streets safe for cyclists.

Fomenting the "them-and-us" attitude that so many do, is only going to provoke those driving the 2tonne weapons, and those riding the 8kg steeds are going to come off second if that happens.

What a self-contradictory post!

You complain about 'them and us attitude' while yourself invoking the tedious 'giving us a bad name' garbage. Cyclists have a bad name because many drivers have a deep sense of entitlement and a lot of political power. This isn't going to make any difference to that.

And since when was taking car keys on a par with shooting people?

I don't think what the guy did was right. But 'utterly unacceptable'? Bit over-the-top. How can you use that phrase when seriously injuring people is reguarly accepted on our roads?

Edit - I mean, using a hand-held phone while driving is 'utterly unacceptable' and yet its widely accepted. What does the term even mean, really?

Anyway, I've no idea what happened here, or if the cyclist was a particularly belligerent one or not, but its hardly the most serious incident that will have occured on our roads this week.

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Mungecrundle [866 posts] 1 year ago
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Probably better not to make half arsed speculation about an incident that presumably no-one posting so far witnessed or was involved in. Maybe the cyclist just prevented a major terrorist car bombing, maybe he's a really unpleasant psychopath, maybe it's a bit of fuss about nothing more than a bruised ego. Point is we don't know and some of these postings are worthy of the Daily Mail comments, just switch the cyclist and driver roles. 

However I would admit to once hiding someone's keys so they couldn't drive drunk and that incident could well have ended up in fisticuffs.

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emjay49 [10 posts] 1 year ago
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I absolutely agree as above and I find it incredulous that people are actually condoning this assault and are trying to rationalise this idiots behaviour. He clearly has anger management issues and I'm sure if  It was one of your relatives he assaulted you might have a different view. 

 

 

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KiwiMike [1307 posts] 1 year ago
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rjfrussell wrote:

Presumably if an American cyclist got out his arsenal and shot up an entire highway you fucktards would come on here and say that it was perfectly justifiable because someone passed him a bit too close.

We need to make it safer to cycle on our streets and roads, and that is never going to happen if idiots like this behave like this, and then we try to defend it ... We must say so, if we are to have any hope of winning the war and making streets safe for cyclists.

 

 

I cite bovine excretia regards your prose, Sir.

One finds your assumption that the denziens hereabouts are incapable of rational, subtle judgement of a proffered situation most unsavory.

One would also like to understand this curious concept of 'we'. As far as one knows, one owes not the remotest allegiance or responsability to any other person, on wheels two or four - nomoreso than your good self does to a reprobate 'afoot' in the town, as no doubt your good self has occasion to be.

I respectfully direct you to the nearest section of coastline, where you are invited to proceed perpendicular to said in a direction away from land. 

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mrmo [2094 posts] 1 year ago
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FrankH wrote:

I must say I agree. Most cyclists are drivers as well. Can any cyclist/driver put his hand up and say he's never made a mistake? I doubt it. I've come to expect this holier than thou attitude from the commenters here but sometimes it takes me by surprise. A bit of give and take is needed, we can't all be perfect.

 

And last time i had a driver  clip me, rather than escalate the driver simply said sorry and made sure no damage done, and yes i was ready to rip his head off for gross stupidity and not looking. Contrast with when i have been cut up and told to get off the f**king road, which escalated very quickly. 

Cyclists, Drivers, we are human and we make mistakes, the point is what you do when it happens? Apologise and move on or get defensive and aggressive? 

Throw into the mix far too many drivers who THINK they know the law and expect others to get out of the way, NOW. 

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sargey2003 [7 posts] 1 year ago
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Taking keys is OK - hitting the driver is not.

I'm guessing that all the police need to do is check Strava...

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mattsccm [358 posts] 1 year ago
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The person abovwho suggests that its not a good diea to make unsubstantiated assumptions is dreaming.

On this website. Sorry but you are dreaming . Haven't you realised that its the home  of the most vindicive bunch I have met for a long time?

The same bunch who know Froome is doping because they know better and can read peoples minds

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oldstrath [848 posts] 1 year ago
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FrankH wrote:
rjfrussell wrote:

This behaviour from the cyclist is obviously, blindingly obviously, utterly unacceptable.

It doesn't matter what the "full story" is.  It doesn't matter what "led up to it".  It is still utterly unacceptable.

I must say I agree. Most cyclists are drivers as well. Can any cyclist/driver put his hand up and say he's never made a mistake? I doubt it. I've come to expect this holier than thou attitude from the commenters here but sometimes it takes me by surprise. A bit of give and take is needed, we can't all be perfect.

How fucking hard is it really to understand. A badly behaved tit on a bicycle is a danger mostly to himself. A badly behaved tit driving a car is a danger to many people. That is why we make  anyone who wants the privilege  of driving take a test, and is why we should worry a whole lot  more about crap drivers. The problem with 'give and take' is that what most drivers mean by it is 'get out of my way  while I  take the road'.

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HalfWheeler [651 posts] 1 year ago
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I've heard of guys doing this before, usually to disarm an irrational, psychotic driver from mowing them down further up the road.

There seems to be a fair old chunk of this story missing. Why would you pick a fight with someone armed to the teeth with a speeding one ton weapon?

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Leodis [424 posts] 1 year ago
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Sounds like road rage by both parties and the driver came off worse hence the need for the media report, vice versa and nowt would have been done or said.

 

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crazy-legs [909 posts] 1 year ago
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There's got to be far more to this than simply "cyclist rides up to innocent law-abiding motorist and steals keys".

They must have had some sort of previous encounter further back along the road to rile the rider up like that. Two wrongs don't make a right obviously but there has to be more than the original news report is making out.

And anyone commenting with the "giving cyclists a bad name" rubbish... Please stop with collective responsibility bollocks. Thanks.

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brooksby [2576 posts] 1 year ago
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I think that the problem here is that too many people (on two wheels as well as on four) don't notice when they've done something stupid and/or dangerous. I don't believe that the motorist did *nothing*, and I do believe that the cyclists actions were probably an overreaction, BUT I also believe that it's likely that the motorist genuinely didn't realise that they'd done anything and therefore genuinely think that they're the aggrieved party here.

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Paul Bishop [14 posts] 1 year ago
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Love it

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Leviathan [2772 posts] 1 year ago
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sargey2003 wrote:

Taking keys is OK - hitting the driver is not.

I'm guessing that all the police need to do is check Strava...

I know there have been a lot of generalizations already, but I would assume that any lycra bound hero would have the intellegence not to hit save.

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