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Make Cambridge cyclists pay congestion charge, says transport expert

City Deal vice-chair reveals advice - which county's cycling champion describes as "ludicrous"...

A transport expert has recommended that cyclists, as well as motorists, should be subject to any congestion charge introduced in Cambridge – the British city with by far the highest proportion of people riding bikes for everyday journeys.

Cambridgeshire County Councillor Roger Hickford made the revelation today at a meeting of the Greater Cambridge City Deal, of which he is vice-chair.

Local campaigner and citizen journalist Richard Taylor was present, and relayed the councillor’s comments on Twitter.

At present, the identity of the expert, who apparently made the recommendation during the consultation process, is unknown; road.cc has looked through the responses that have so far been made public but we have been unable to find any such reference.

Another county councillor, Noel Kavanagh – who is Cambridgeshire County Council’s cycling champion – described the suggestion as “ludicrous.”

Jon Vale, politics correspondent for the newspaper Cambridge News, was also at the meeting, which he described as both “fascinating and bonkers.”

Mr Taylor also made his views on the issue clear.

The Greater Cambridge City Deal, established under a government initiative to invest in the regions, covers the Cambridge City Council and South Cambridgeshire District Council areas.

Focusing on innovation-led economic growth, issues it is addressing include provision of housing and other services for a part of the UK that is expected to see some of the strongest population growth over the next couple of decades, plus how people will move around to get to work and places of study.

Part of that has included consultation on whether Cambridge should join London and Durham in introducing congestion charge, and if so, which model should be adopted.

As to the issue of which mode of transport is most responsible for congestion, an iconic photograph commissioned by the German city Münster in 1991 (see Bikehub for the background) reveals it isn’t those who travel by bicycle or on the bus.

Munster 1991 bike car bus.jpg

 

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Nuclear Dan | 8 years ago
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They need to add another 5 buses to represent the fact that buses generally operate at 20% occupancy. And knock about 30% of the cars off the street to account for the average occupancy of the cars.

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pedalpowerDC | 8 years ago
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Well, probably should charge for walking, riding a bus . . . extra fee for strollers. They take up space.

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burtthebike | 8 years ago
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One might have hoped that in a town hosting one of the most prestigious universities in the world, "expert" would mean someone with considerable knowledge of the subject, not ignorance best described as blissful.

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fenix | 8 years ago
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I'd love for Beaufort to explain their thinking rather than just lobbing a 'comment grenade' in and driving off.

 

As to the tweets  "Illiberal. Intrusive. Criminalising" I think they're missing the point.  

How would any scheme work ? How do people register ? How would they be tracked ? How would they be charged ? How would making it less attractive to cycling make congestion better ? 

I bet the expert is made up. The councillor should be pushed to reveal his source.

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Paul Shipley | 8 years ago
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Idiotic idea AND totally unenforceable, unless we start putting number plates on bikes!

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Wolfshade | 8 years ago
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I think we need to go back to understand what the purpose of congestion charges.

If we go back to the Smeed report (that first considered congestion charging) the purpose was as a "car user restraint" as it was reconginsed that central areas were far too congested. The reasons were two fold, to minimise the enironmental impact of the congestion and to try and enable the cars that aren't discouraged to flow more freely. The spin off would be to generate income that should be ploughed back into the public transport systems that enable people to use public transport and for that to be better (so you have the carrot & stick).

Anyone who cycles into central business areas (city/town centres) at peak times will know that they travel as fast (if not faster) than the cars around them, so in and of themselves they do not contribute to congestion. Indeed proper cycling infrastructre would mean that cycling itself shouldn't impede the progress of cars (and vice versa).

If the problem is the volume of traffic then you need the carrot and the stick. The stick is to make life more problematic for those who choose private vehicles, so creating pinch-points restricting capacity, slowing down the traffic so that it becomes less desirable to drive, that and hitting people in the wallets. The "carrot" is to make alternative methods better and more desirable, so a better funded public transport network, nicer buses. Bus lanes which enable buses to travel without being held up by private vehicles.  Decent cycling infrastructure so the perception of cycling danger is diminshed.

Ultimately, cycling slowly does not cause anyone any harm, driving slowly is producing dangerous emissions that do have an impact on people's health.

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ironmancole | 8 years ago
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Name and shame.

As any sane person will recognise (who clearly isn't prejudiced by an agenda) cycling is something we desperately need to encourage throughout the country.

Any individual who believes cycling is adding congestion to our roads is quite plainly a village idiot who has no claim to expertise in anything and certainly should not be influencing transport policy.

Freedom of information request should do it I would think, this is all a matter of public interest and public record...lets see who this moron is and examine their hidden interests.

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DaveE128 | 8 years ago
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Wasn't there some anti-cycling councillor or something in Cambridge a while back, and it turned out that their register of interests had a load of things about the motor trade (in which he had worked for many years) on it?  Could this be the same person trying to hide behind an "expert" guise?

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Sniffer | 8 years ago
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Don't get too worked up.  There is no chance the 'idea' will be implemented.

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thereverent | 8 years ago
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A truly stupid idea.

Sounds like Roger Hickford felt he had hide that this was his idea by saying an 'expert' had come up with it.

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kraut | 8 years ago
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Pretty sure that "expert" was Keith Peat  3

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pruaga | 8 years ago
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A large amount of the cyclists in the city centre will have some affiliation to the University, which does have (at least did have when I was there) a bike registration scheme, albeit to try to address the problems of abandoned bikes.

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CXR94Di2 replied to pruaga | 8 years ago
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pruaga wrote:

A large amount of the cyclists in the city centre will have some affiliation to the University, which does have (at least did have when I was there) a bike registration scheme, albeit to try to address the problems of abandoned bikes.

 

Hardly a great problem abandoned cycles compared to cars, easily 10 bikes to the foot print of 1 car

 

The image at the top of the header demonstrates how much space cars take in comparison

 

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DaveE128 replied to CXR94Di2 | 8 years ago
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CXR94Di2 wrote:

Hardly a great problem abandoned cycles compared to cars, easily 10 bikes to the foot print of 1 car

The image at the top of the header demonstrates how much space cars take in comparison

Having done voluntary work in Cambridge for a few summers in the past, I can believe that abandoned (not parked) bikes are a serious problem. Bike parking was really hard to find at times, and I would imagine that it would be *far* worse in term time. Given that the average value of a Cambridge bike compared to a Cambridge car, the number of abandoned bikes is likely to be orders of magnitude higher than abandoned cars, even if they do take up less space!

See this article for other issues with bike parking in Cambridge:

http://road.cc/content/news/143306-cambridge-cyclists-complain-station-b...

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Beaufort | 8 years ago
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If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

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wycombewheeler replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

 

Congestion would get better or worse if those cyclists switched to cars or taxis? The point is everyione who cycles is acting to reduce congestion, if cambridge is congested despite this it is a sign the road infrastructure is in no way near enough for the number of people using it, and it wouldn't even function at all if large numbers of people were not on bikes.

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Edgeley replied to wycombewheeler | 8 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:
Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

 

Congestion would get better or worse if those cyclists switched to cars or taxis? The point is everyione who cycles is acting to reduce congestion, if cambridge is congested despite this it is a sign the road infrastructure is in no way near enough for the number of people using it, and it wouldn't even function at all if large numbers of people were not on bikes.

 

It is even sillier than that.

 

Central Cambridge is effectively closed to motor  vehicles other than those with a specific need to be in the centre, eg because they have a parking space.

The congestion is on the ring road.

Unless the road pricing covers Cambridge outside the ringroad, it will have no effect on motor traffic at all.   And if it covered bikes too, manifestly the congestion would get worse.

The obvious thing to do (that is obvious to anyone who isn't suffering from delusio internalcombustio) is to encourage more people onto bikes from outer Cambridge, not fewer.

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Chuck replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

 

I'm from Cambridge (although I don't live there now), and it is ludicrous. 

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Paul_C replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

who the heck drives through Cambridge in rush hour... it's well served by major roads that go around it... they must be an absolute masochist to use the 'inner' ring road around the center...

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leewalton replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

As another reader who has both lived and worked in Cambridge in the past, I'm sorry Beaufort, but it is a rediculous idea.

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Tony replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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Beaufort wrote:

If you've travelled through Cambridge at rush hour then this is not a ludicrous idea. If you have not then I suggest you might want to try it before offering your opinion.

I travel through Cambridge at rush hour every day and it is a totally ludicrous idea.  What's also totally ludicrous is travelling through on anything but a bike.   The place would gridlock if we all did.

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Airzound replied to Beaufort | 8 years ago
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You are the archetypal village idiot and ICMFP!

And FWIW I ride into central Cambridge from St Ives everyday for work and pass line and lines of stationary traffic from Milton to the centre. I do not encounter ANY cycle congestion. Your comment shows you know bugger all about the causes of traffic congestion or cycling in Cambridge and how to improve it.

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ibike | 8 years ago
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It's finally happened, we've hit peak bikelash!

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bikebot replied to ibike | 8 years ago
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ibike wrote:

It's finally happened, we've hit peak bikelash!

I think Cambridgeshire hit peak with this splendid story - http://road.cc/content/news/81887-ukip-cambridge-candidate-if-everybody-...

Now what did happen to him, maybe Peter Burkinshaw has become some sort of "transport expert".

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Airzound | 8 years ago
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How about pigeons?

 

Clue is in the name - C O N G E S T I O N.

 

What causes congestion or the usual name - traffic jams? Cars, lots of them, mostly to be seen with only one person inside with a mobile phone glued to their ear or palm.

 

And they cause pollution, bad pollution.

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Must be Mad | 8 years ago
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Its the bloody car tax winge by another means.

As a cyclist, If I were made to pay a 'congestion charge' to use the roads, I ain't going to cycle in the gutter....

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brooksby replied to Must be Mad | 8 years ago
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Must be Mad wrote:

Its the bloody car tax winge by another means.

As a cyclist, If I were made to pay a 'congestion charge' to use the roads, I ain't going to cycle in the gutter....

True. If cyclists ever have to pay congestion charge or licence fees or bicycle excise duty, whatever, then we have to start riding in primary position all day every day, surely?

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brooksby | 8 years ago
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I wonder if or when this anonymous transport expert will ever put their head above the parapet and admit publicly that it's their idea. Because, for the avoidance of any doubt, it's a truly stupid idea.

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DaveE128 | 8 years ago
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may as well charge pedestrians too. I mean they use up road space when they have to cross the road, right? 

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wycombewheeler | 8 years ago
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Stay off the drugs cllr Hickory. Drugs are bad, o'kay.

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