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Driver "no longer works for Golden Tours" says bus operator...

In a breath-taking piece of irresponsible driving a driver for London tourist bus operator Golden Tours has been caught on camera deliberately driving on a pavement in order to block two cyclists whom he felt the need to tell off.

According to the comments on his original YouTube posting, cyclist Ali Choudhry (19) from Ilford, was riding through London with a friend on August 2 when they noticed they were being tailgated by a Golden Tours bus.

“This driver decided to spice things up a bit for us with a blend of typical road rage," said Choudhry. "He tailgated us at literally 3 feet and got angry for being held up for a few seconds but had all the time in the world to stop and vent his fury.”

Choudhry and his friend, who was riding through London for the first time, took refuge on the pavement, but as you can see in the video, the driver also turned off the road to block their path.

He opens the bus doors and begins to shout at the riders until Choudhry points out his video camera.

“I bet he intended to do a lot more but backed off when he saw the camera and the fact i wasn't alone," said Choudhry.

Asked if he had notified the driver's employer, he replies: "Yup. Have already sent them the video link via contact us on their website. I hope they do sort it out as best as they can. The driver really needs to control his irrational anger and what he does as a result of it."

In response to the video being drawn to the company's attention on Twitter, Golden Tours said he was no longer working there:

 

Our official grumpy Northerner, John has been riding bikes for over 30 years since discovering as an uncoordinated teen that a sport could be fun if it didn't require you to catch a ball or get in the way of a hulking prop forward.

Road touring was followed by mountain biking and a career racing in the mud that was as brief as it was unsuccessful.

Somewhere along the line came the discovery that he could string a few words together, followed by the even more remarkable discovery that people were mug enough to pay for this rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work. He's pretty certain he's worked for even more bike publications than Mat Brett.

The inevitable 30-something MAMIL transition saw him shift to skinny tyres and these days he lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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mad_scot_rider [581 posts] 3 years ago
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The question is why has the video not been passed to the police so that he can be charged?

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A V Lowe [614 posts] 3 years ago
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The bus is an open top London Tour vehicle - the name & address of the operator are in that white lettering on the left side by the front wheel - It is a bit tricky to read but it does not say Golden Tours - is this the holding company or a contractor providing the buses?

Well it would be poetic that as you have a clear picture of the driver, and caught him in flagrante delicto committing an offence under s.72 Highways Act 1835 there should be at least enough to send him a fixed penalty notice just like cyclists get for riding or driving a carriage on the footway. I think he'll also be liable for charges under s.19 RTA 1988 as his bus weighs over 7.5T and is being driven on a footway

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dp24 [204 posts] 3 years ago
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Hopefully a knock from the Police won't be far behind his P45.

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oozaveared [936 posts] 3 years ago
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Well OK Golden Tours aren't using him but he's still out there and they haven't divulged who he is.

Golden Tours need to do more than just move him along on to another employer that may well not know about any of this. How could they know?

This is a police matter.

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jacknorell [972 posts] 3 years ago
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Really hope the Met has this as well?

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Chuck [588 posts] 3 years ago
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And at the end the driver is actually bringing up the highway code! Unbelievable.

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Binky [116 posts] 3 years ago
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Good job they had a camera, otherwise the complaint would most likely be ignored, even if the company had the option to check the cameras on the bus.

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oozaveared [936 posts] 3 years ago
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Binky wrote:

Good job they had a camera, otherwise the complaint would most likely be ignored, even if the company had the option to check the cameras on the bus.

Binky. I don't follow that. The company probably don't want their customers (tourists) being treated to a road rage incident by one of their drivers driving on the pavement. Plus this is a liveried vehicle so it brings the company into disrepute anyway. Then there's the issue of how their asset is being treated anyway not to mention the loss of business if he damages the bus and it needs to be repaired and that's without the insurance implications.

If I were his employer I wouldn't want him putting up my insurance, damaging company property, frightening customers and destroying the company's good name. Let alone the issue of the fact that he has anger issue and wondering what the hell he is going to do next. Why would you think they'd want to keep someone like that? Most companies spend a lot of money making sure they don't employ people like that and are all too keen to get rid of people that are a risk to their business.

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Scrapples [32 posts] 3 years ago
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You should see the frothing at the mouth over on the daily fail this is causing, makes me chuckle. As for the incident, nothing less than I expect from a London bus driver

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Das [243 posts] 3 years ago
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That driver is clearly a professional, just like his wife............

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Saturday [9 posts] 3 years ago
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You have to wonder why people with so little control over their emotions are allowed to drive a psv . Quite clearly the bus drivers charges were not at the forefront of his mind nor was the rest of the traffic.

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Daveyraveygravey [535 posts] 3 years ago
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What a twunt! Throw the book at him.

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John Stevenson [299 posts] 3 years ago
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You have to wonder why people with so little control over their emotions are allowed to drive.

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bikebot [2119 posts] 3 years ago
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Scrapples wrote:

You should see the frothing at the mouth over on the daily fail this is causing, makes me chuckle. As for the incident, nothing less than I expect from a London bus driver

I always go straight for the "best rated" comments, never fails to make me smile.

So the top three are -

"Idiotic, self entitled cyclists are becoming an increasing menace! I don't blame the driver at all, it clearly isn't as straightforward as the whingeing cyclists have made out!" - 2681 up, 826 down votes

"My sympathies are with the bus driver. The overwhelming majority of cyclists ignore the Highway Code especially those referring to traffic lights." - 2107 up, 490 down votes

And my personal favourite in third - "Ban cyclists" - 1537 up, 660 down votes

The Daily Mail was best summed up by an American I shared a flight with a few year ago. She'd collected a complimentary copy whilst boarding the plane, and after reading a few pages she decided to introduce herself to her fellow passenger (me) by asking "excuse me, is this paper a fucking joke or is it for real?"

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Rupert [191 posts] 3 years ago
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The bus drive immediately realise that the cyclist has a camera so decide to retreat. What would of happened if the cyclist didn't have a camera ??

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Jonathing [74 posts] 3 years ago
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You have to wonder why people with so little control over their emotions are allowed.

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kevinmorice [145 posts] 3 years ago
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As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

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FluffyKittenofT... [1793 posts] 3 years ago
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kevinmorice wrote:

As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

What a daft comment.

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Joeinpoole [444 posts] 3 years ago
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FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
kevinmorice wrote:

As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

What a daft comment.

Not really. To quote Baruch Spinoza “No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides.”

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FluffyKittenofT... [1793 posts] 3 years ago
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If a cyclist can be fined for straying over the dividing line on a segregated pavement (as in the New Kent Road case) surely the bus driver should be fined for this?

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FluffyKittenofT... [1793 posts] 3 years ago
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Joeinpoole wrote:
FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
kevinmorice wrote:

As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

What a daft comment.

Not really. To quote Baruch Spinoza “No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides.”

So what actions by the cyclist makes it legal to drive a bus onto the pavement?

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FluffyKittenofT... [1793 posts] 3 years ago
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Joeinpoole wrote:
FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
kevinmorice wrote:

As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

What a daft comment.

Not really. To quote Baruch Spinoza “No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides.”

So what actions by the cyclist makes it legal to drive a bus onto the pavement?

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Joeinpoole [444 posts] 3 years ago
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FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
Joeinpoole wrote:
FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
kevinmorice wrote:

As with most of these, I want to see the previous few minutes of footage rather than take it at face value with edit choices of the supposedly aggrieved cyclists.

The bus driver is clearly upset by something in the behaviour of the cyclists but nothing they do during the video seems too bad. One of them pulling out to hog the lane while his friend undertakes is not particularly good behaviour. But both of them laughing at having held up the bus is good evidence that they are pleased with themselves for having obstructed him, until they realise he is going to react and suddenly it isn't so funny.

So what else were they up to in the couple of minutes previous?

What a daft comment.

Not really. To quote Baruch Spinoza “No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides.”

So what actions by the cyclist makes it legal to drive a bus onto the pavement?

Obviously nothing made that reaction either 'legal' or justified ... and a man has lost his job as a result.

I just wonder what caused that reaction? It must have been something. If the driver suffered road-rage all the time over trivial matters then he probably wouldn't have got the job in the first place. Maybe he wasn't deliberately tailgating the cyclists ... maybe the cyclists deliberately slowed down to obstruct him as much as possible for their own amusement? Who knows? The driver certainly felt that he had been wronged by the cyclists somehow and the video doesn't show what it was.

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dp24 [204 posts] 3 years ago
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Joeinpoole wrote:

If the driver suffered road-rage all the time over trivial matters then he probably wouldn't have got the job in the first place.

Really? I see road rage and twatty driving from 'professional' drivers on a daily basis.

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jacknorell [972 posts] 3 years ago
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Joeinpoole wrote:

Maybe he wasn't deliberately tailgating the cyclists ... maybe the cyclists deliberately slowed down to obstruct him as much as possible for their own amusement?

Someone without a serious anger management issue / other personality problems would just think they're being c*nts and swear under their breath while slowing down.

Seriously, can you please engage your cognitive faculties to filter out this sort of stuff before applying fingers to keyboard?

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Joeinpoole [444 posts] 3 years ago
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jacknorell wrote:

Someone without a serious anger management issue / other personality problems would just think they're being c*nts and swear under their breath while slowing down.

Seriously, can you please engage your cognitive faculties to filter out this sort of stuff before applying fingers to keyboard?

Like I and others have said, we don't actually *know* what happened immediately before the incident.

You might want to take your own advice before applying fingers to keyboard next time.

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FluffyKittenofT... [1793 posts] 3 years ago
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@Joeinpoole

I was unncessarily dismissive/rude with my first comment, now I think about it. Sorry.

Perhaps the cyclists did do something wrong as well, I have no idea, but I'm not looking at it in terms of a confrontation between cyclist and driver, I am just fed up in general of drivers thinking they can drive onto the pavement. That's wrong on its own, regardless of what went on between driver and cyclists.

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kie7077 [922 posts] 3 years ago
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got angry for being held up for a few seconds but had all the time in the world to stop and vent his fury

Typical, had this a few time myself.

These morons don't notice 20 single occupant motor vehicles stopped in front of them, but 1 cyclist ahead sends them into a rage.

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Joeinpoole [444 posts] 3 years ago
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FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

@Joeinpoole

I was unncessarily dismissive/rude with my first comment, now I think about it. Sorry.

Perhaps the cyclists did do something wrong as well, I have no idea, but I'm not looking at it in terms of a confrontation between cyclist and driver, I am just fed up in general of drivers thinking they can drive onto the pavement. That's wrong on its own, regardless of what went on between driver and cyclists.

No worries ... thanks! I'm confident we're both batting for the same side on this issue anyway.

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giff77 [1275 posts] 3 years ago
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Granted, the cyclists could have wound up the driver and the footage does not show this. Does not excuse the driver from mounting the footpath? He is after all a highly trained and skilled vehicle operator who can cope with all situations thrown at him rather than use his vehicle to intimidate other road users.

I once had a bus driver roll up to my wheel by about a foot while waiting at a set of lights. I moved off and had him tailgating me for about twenty metres as I fought to hold primary and get past some parked cars, he then performed an illegal overtake and whipped his vehicle in causing the rear of the bus brush my arm and forcing me into the side of a parked car. Catching up with him at the bus stop he said that he had given me plenty of room etc etc and that I was a danger to myself. On reporting, The CTV proved his stunt rather differently. I know that the individual concerned was dealt with as the company's drivers have shown a huge improvement in interacting with cyclists.

It does seem concerning that a lot of bus and coach operators are quite happy to employ individuals that can't cope with driving on heavily congested roads. Maybe a psyc test as well as an interview would be a way forward. Anger Management Issues = No Post.

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