Tour of Yorkshire scheduled to debut next May

Welcome to Yorkshire, ASO and British Cycling submit plans for three-day stage race to UCI

by Simon_MacMichael   July 3, 2014  

Christian Prudhomme and Gary Verity at presentation of 2014 TDF Grand Depart (picture by Dave Winter:SWPix.com)

Welcome to Yorkshire, Tour de France organsisers ASO and British Cycling have announced that they have submitted a formal application to the UCI for the three day stage race they hope will provide a lasting sporting legacy from the Grand Depart.

Called the Tour of Yorkshire, it is planned to hold the inaugural edition of the UCI 2.1 category event from 1-3 May next year, with international TV coverage and attracting some of the world’s top teams.

Tour de France race director Christian Prudhomme said:“Alongside the public interest for cycling, highlighted by the Grand Départ, Yorkshire boasts beautiful breathtaking scenery worthy of any of the cycling season’s major events. It therefore seems perfectly natural for Welcome to Yorkshire, British Cycling and ASO to continue working together in this new land of cycling, through the Tour of Yorkshire.

“In particular, this three-day stage race will offer television viewers worldwide the opportunity to continue discovering the splendid landscapes of this English region, a journey started by the Tour de France, whose Grand Départ this year will remain its founding act.”

Welcome to Yorkshire’s chief executive, Gary Verity, added: “When we bid to host the Tour de France we did so in the knowledge that this would be the start of a long relationship with ASO. So I am delighted to be able to announce this exciting new race for Yorkshire.

“Our county is a new cycling heartland of Europe and we look forward to welcoming back some of the world’s best riders in Yorkshire in less than 12 months’ time.”

As we reported last month, the race will visit parts of Yorkshire not included on the Grand Depart route, including Hull and the East Riding.

 

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Great news, this way the huge beautiful parts missed on the Tour (Yorks moors and coast) will see some action.

Happy days.

posted by Leodis [173 posts]
3rd July 2014 - 10:29

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Great swathes of the county have been missed out on Le Tour but hopefully the legacy will help those areas get the recognition they deserve. It just makes me more proud to hail from there Smile

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posted by YorkshireMike [66 posts]
3rd July 2014 - 10:39

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Legacy is B/S.

I'd much rather see them go for 2.2 status. That way you don't have 50% of the world tour teams.

You can only have pro teams of the country (Sky) then some continental teams, national and regional/club teams.

We already have a England centred Tour of "Britain".....

It is all about lining pockets.

Where is the legacy promised from the 2007 tour? Where is the Olympic legacy??

Oh yeah, try and use the velodrome in London.....

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3rd July 2014 - 10:59

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Thanks for your postive comments there Gkam84.

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3rd July 2014 - 11:13

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Chris James wrote:
Thanks for your postive comments there Gkam84.

No worries, just saying it as I see it.

Legacy isn't about the local benefits and communities, it is just an excuse for the event organisers to make more money of the back of a big event.

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3rd July 2014 - 11:21

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Thanks for your postive comments there Gkam84.

No worries, just saying it as I see it.

Legacy isn't about the local benefits and communities, it is just an excuse for the event organisers to make more money of the back of a big event.

Its called capitalism, if you don't like it tough. Cycle sport exists for sponsors and entertainment, always has. All professional athletes in all sports are little more than bill boards. If local councils are happy to be a part then that is their job, if the communities that are served aren't happy then they are perfectly entitled to go to their councillors, that's democracy.

So shall we just scrap the Tdf, Giro et al, because they are all about money?

GKam84, may I humbly ask that you shut up, you seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder, re rapha, re drugs, and now about cycle racing.

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3rd July 2014 - 11:34

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Gkam84 wrote:
Legacy isn't about the local benefits and communities, it is just an excuse for the event organisers to make more money of the back of a big event.
I wish there were more people like you, Gkam. You seem to have a genuine concern for the communities and for the good of cycling in general. I agree it's a pity these people all seem to be about mobey, money, money... I wish there were more people like you who would orgamzie these events with a more community oriented approach. Sadly, it takes a lot of effort and there just aren't enough selfless people to do this without wanting to reap the financial rewards that these events can generate.

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3rd July 2014 - 11:37

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Oh yeah, try and use the velodrome in London.....

There's a wonderful velodrome in Manchester, one of the best in the world in fact.

And hows this for a legacy:

2013

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS (AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND)

Gold

Liam Phillips, Elite Men

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS (MINSK, BELARUS)

Gold

Elinor Barker, Dani King, Laura Trott - Women’s Team Pursuit
Becky James - Keirin
Becky James - Sprint
Jason Kenny - Keirin
Simon Yates - Points Race

Silver

Steven Burke, Ed Clancy, Sam Harrison, Andy Tennant - Men’s Team Pursuit
Laura Trott - Omnium

Bronze

Becky James, Victoria Williamson - Team Sprint
Becky James - 500m TT

2012

PARACYCLING TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS 2012, LOS ANGELES, USA

Gold

Jon-Allan Butterworth - C4 Kilo
Jody Cundy - C4 4km Pursuit
Anthony Kappes - Craig MacLean, B/VI Kilo
Anthony Kappes - Craig MacLean, B/VI Sprint
Darren Kenny - C3 Kilo
Sarah Storey - C5 500m TT
Sarah Storey - C5 3km Pursuit

Silver

Mark Colbourne - C1 Kilo
Neil Fachie, Barney Storey - B/VI Kilo
Aileen McGlynn, Helen Scott - B/VI Kilo
Aileen McGlynn, Helen Scott - B/VI Sprint
Shaun McKeown - C1 3km Pursuit
Lora Turnham, Fiona Duncan - B/VI 3km Pursuit

Bronze

Mark Colbourne - C1 3km Pursuit
Shaun McKeown - C3 Kilo

PARALYMPIC GAMES (LONDON, UK)

Gold

Sarah Storey - C5 Individual Pursuit
Sarah Storey - C4/5 500m TT
Sarah Storey - C5 16km TT
Sarah Storey - C5 road race
Mark Colbourne - C1 Individual Pursuit
Neil Fachie and Barney Storey - B Kilo
Anthony Kappes and Craig MacLean - B Sprint
David Stone - mixed T1/2 road race

Silver

Mark Colbourne - C1/2/3 Kilo
Jon Allan Butterworth - C4/5 Kilo
Jon Allan Butterworth - C5 Individual Pursuit
Aileen McGlynn and Helen Scott - B Kilo
Shaun McKeown - C3 Individual Pursuit
Neil Fachie and Barney Storey - B Sprint
Darren Kenny, Rik Waddon, Jon Allan Butterworth - Mixed Team Sprint
Mark Colbourne - C1 TT
Karen Darke – H1-2 TT

Bronze

Darren Kenny - C3 Individual Pursuit
Jody Cundy - C4 Individual Pursuit
Aileen McGlynn and Helen Scott - B Pursuit
David Stone - mixed T1/2 TT
Rachel Morris - H1-3 road race

OLYMPIC GAMES (LONDON, UK)

Gold

Bradley Wiggins, Men’s Road Time Trail
Chris Hoy, Men’s Keirin
Philip Hindes, Jason Kenny, Chris Hoy, Men’s Team Sprint
Jason Kenny, Men’s Sprint,
Victoria Pendleton, Women’s Keirin
Laura Trott, Dani King, Joanna Rowsell, Women’s Team Pursuit
Ed Clancy, Geraint Thomas, Peter Kennaugh, Steven Burke, Men’s Team Pursuit
Laura Trott, Women’s Omnium

Silver

Victoria Pendleton, Women’s Sprint
Lizzie Armitstead, Women’s Road Race

Bronze

Ed Clancy, Men’s Omnium
Chris Froome, Men’s Road Time Trail

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS (LIMBURG, NETHERLANDS)

Gold

Elinor Barker, Junior Women’s Time Trial
Lucy Garner, Junior Women’s Road Race

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS (BIRMINGHAM, UK)

Silver

Liam Phillips, Elite Men's Time Trial
Shanaze Reade, Elite Women Time Trial

MTB WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Downhill and fourcross - Leogang, Austria

Silver

Gee Atherton, Elite Men’s Downhill

Bronze

Manon Carpenter, Elite Women’s Downhill

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS (MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA)

Gold

Dani King, Laura Trott, Joanna Rowsell, Women’s Team Pursuit
Chris Hoy, Men’s Sprint
Ben Swift, Men’s Scratch Race
Ed Clancy, Geraint Thomas, Peter Kennaugh, Steven Burke, Men’s Team Pursuit
Victoria Pendleton, Women’s Sprint
Laura Trott, Women’s Omnium

Silver

Jason Kenny, Men’s Sprint
Wendy Houvenaghel, Women’s Individual Pursuit
Ben Swift, Men’s Points Race
Geraint Thomas, Ben Swift, Men’s Madison

Bronze

Jess Varnish, Women’s 500m Time Trial
Jason Kenny, Men’s Keirin
Chris Hoy, Men’s Sprint

2011

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS (COPENHAGEN)

Gold

Mark Cavendish, Men’s Road Race
Lucy Garner, Junior Women’s Road Race

Silver

Elinor Barker, Junior Women’s Time Trial
Bradley Wiggins, Men’s Time Trial

Bronze

Andy Fenn, Under-23 Men’s Road Race
Emma Pooley, Women’s Time Trial

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS (COPENHAGEN)

Gold

Shanaze Reade, Time Trial

Silver

Abbie Taylor, Junior Women

MTB WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS (CHAMPEREY, SWITZERLAND)

Gold

Danny Hart, Men’s Downhill
Manon Carpenter, Junior Women’s Downhill

Silver

Annie Last, Under-23 Women’s Cross-Country
Rachel Atherton, Women’s Downhill
Fionn Griffiths, Women’s 4-Cross

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS (APELDOORN, HOLLAND)

Gold

Dani King, Laura Trott, Wendy Houvenaghel, Team Pursuit
Jason Kenny, Sprint*

Silver

Chris Hoy, Sprint*
Chris Hoy – Keirin
Victoria Pendleton & Jess Varnish, Team Sprint
Matt Crampton, Chris Hoy, Jason Kenny, Team Sprint*

Bronze

Steven Burke, Sam Harrison, Peter Kennaugh, Andy Tennant, Team Pursuit
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Dani King, Scratch Race

* elevated one place following the back-dated suspension of Gregory Bauge (Fra)

2010

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS (MENDRISIO, ITALY)

Gold

Emma Pooley, Women’s Time Trial

Silver

David Millar, Men’s Time Trial

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS (PIETERMARITZBURG, RSA)

Gold

Shanaze Reade, Senior Women

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS (MONT ST ANNE, CANADA)

Gold

Tracy Moseley, Women’s Downhill

Silver

Annie Last, Under-23 Women’s Cross-Country

Bronze

Lewis Buchanan, Junior Men’s Downhill

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS (COPENHAGEN)

Gold

Chris Hoy, Keirin
Ed Clancy, Omnium
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint

Silver

Steven Burke, Ed Clancy, Andy Tennant, Ben Swift, Team Pursuit
Wendy Houvenaghel, Individual Pursuit
Lizzie Armitstead, Wendy Houvenaghel, Jo Rowsell, Team Pursuit
Victoria Pendleton, Keirin
Lizzie Armitstead, Omnium

Bronze

Ross Edgar, Chris Hoy, Jason Kenny, Team Sprint

2009

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Lizzie Armitstead, Wendy Houvenaghel & Joanna Rowsell, Women's Team Pursuit
Victoria Pendleton, Women's Sprint

Silver

Wendy Houvenaghel, Individual Pursuit
Jamie Staff, Jason Kenny, Matt Crampton, Team Sprint
Shanaze Reade, Victoria Pendleton, Team Sprint
Lizzie Armitstead, Scratch Race

Bronze

Victoria Pendleton, 500 metre TT
Chris Newton, Points Race
Lizzie Armitstead, Points Race

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Steve Peat, Men Downhill

Silver

Tracy Moseley, Women Downhill

Bronze

Danny Hart, Junior Men Downhill

2008

PARALYMPIC GAMES - BEIJING

Gold

Darren Kenny - Men's individual road race LC3/LC4/CP3
Rachel Morris - Women's individual time trial HC A/HC B/HC C
David Stone – Mixed individual road race CP 1/CP 2
David Stone - Mixed individual time trial CP 1/CP 2
Sarah Storey - Women's individual time trial LC 1/LC 2/CP 4
Mark Bristow - Ind. 1 km time trial LC1
Jody Cundy - Ind. 1 km time trial LC2
Simon Richardson - Ind. 1 km time trial LC3–4
Simon Richardson - Individual pursuit LC3–4
Darren Kenny - Individual pursuit CP3
Darren Kenny - Ind. 1 km time trial CP3
Anthony Kappes/Barney Storey - Tandem 1 km time trial B&VI
Anthony Kappes/Barney Storey - Tandem men's sprint (B&VI 1-3)
Jody Cundy, Darren Kenny, Mark Bristow - Men's team sprint (LC1-4\CP3/4)
Sarah Storey - Ind. Pursuit LC1-2/CP 4
Aileen McGlynn/Ellen Hunter - Ind. 1 km time trial B&VI
Aileen McGlynn/Ellen Hunter - Individual pursuit B&VI

Silver

Darren Kenny – Men’s individual TT CP3
Simon Richardson - Men's individual time trial LC3
Rik Waddon - Ind. 1 km time trial CP3

OLYMPIC GAMES - BEIJING

Gold

Nicole Cooke, Road Race
Chris Hoy, Sprint
Chris Hoy, Keirin
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Rebecca Romero, Individual Pursuit
Bradley Wiggins, Individual Pursuit
Bradley Wiggins, Ed Clancy, Geraint Thomas, Paul Manning, Team Pursuit
Chris Hoy, Jason Kenny, Jamie Staff, Team Sprint

Silver

Ross Edgar, Keirin
Wendy Houvenaghel, Individual Pursuit
Jason Kenny, Sprint
Emma Pooley, Road Time Trial

Bronze

Steven Burke, Individual Pursuit
Chris Newton, Points Race

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Shanaze Reade, Elite Women

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Rachel Atherton, Women's Downhill
Gee Atherton, Men's Downhill
Josh Bryceland, Junior Men's Downhill

Silver

Steve Peat, Men's Downhill
Sam Dale, Junior Men's Downhill

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Chris Hoy, Sprint
Chris Hoy, Keirin
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Rebecca Romero, Individual Pursuit
Bradley Wiggins, Individual Pursuit
Mark Cavendish & Bradley Wiggins, Madison
Bradley Wiggins, Ed Clancy, Geraint Thomas, Paul Manning, Team Pursuit
Wendy Houvenaghel, Rebecca Romero, Joanna Rowsell, Team Pursuit
Victoria Pendleton & Shanaze Reade, Team Sprint

Silver

Victoria Pendleton Keirin
Ross Edgar, Chris Hoy, Jamie Staff, Team Sprint

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Nicole Cooke, Road Race

2007

WORLD BMX CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Shanaze Reade, Elite Women

Bronze

Kelvin Batey, Elite Cruiser

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Ruaridh Cunningham, Junior Men's Downhill

Silver

Rachel Atherton, Women's Downhill

Bronze

Gee Atherton, Men's Downhill
David Fletcher, Junior Men's Cross-Country

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Chris Hoy, Kilo
Chris Hoy, Keirin
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Victoria Pendleton Keirin
Victoria Pendleton & Shanaze Reade, Team Sprint
Bradley Wiggins, Individual Pursuit
Team Pursuit (Wiggins, Clancy, Thomas, Manning)

Silver

Rebecca Romero, Individual Pursuit
Team Sprint (Hoy, MacLean, Edgar)

Bronze

Ross Edgar, Keirin bronze Jamie Staff, Kilo

2006

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Silver

Tracy Moseley, Women's Downhill

Bronze

Rachel Atherton, Women's Downhill

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Bronze

Nicole Cooke, Road Race

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Chris Hoy, Kilo

Silver

Craig MacLean, Sprint
Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Team Sprint (Hoy, MacLean, Staff)
Team Pursuit (Manning, Hayles, Cummings, Thomas)

Bronze

Paul Manning, Individual Pursuit

2005

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Silver

Nicole Cooke, Road Race

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Victoria Pendleton, Sprint
Madison (Hayles & Cavendish)
Team Pursuit (Manning, Clancy, Cummings, Hayles)
Team Sprint (Hoy, Queally, Staff)

Silver

Jason Queally, Kilo

Bronze

Chris Hoy, Kilo

2004

PARALYMPIC GAMES - ATHENS

Gold

Aileen McGlynn and Ellen Hunter - women's 1 km tandem time trial
Darren Kenny – Men’s C3 1km TT
Darren Kenny - men's CP3 3 km individual pursuit

Silver

Aileen McGlynn and Ellen Hunter - women's CP3 B1-3 tandem sprint
Darren Kenny - men's CP3 RR & TT

Bronze

Ian Sharpe and Paul Hunter - men's B1-3 tandem 4 km individual pursuit
Ian Sharpe and Paul Hunter - men's B1-3 tandem 1 km time trial

OLYMPIC GAMES -- ATHENS

Gold

Bradley Wiggins, Individual Pursuit
Chris Hoy, Kilo

Silver

Team Pursuit, (Wiggins, Cummings, Steel, Newton, Hayles, Manning)

Bronze

Madison (Wiggins & Hayles)

WORLD ROAD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Bronze

Nicole Cooke, Road Race

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Jamie Staff, Keirin

Silver

Team Pursuit (Wiggins, Cummings, Steel, Newton, Hayles, Manning)

Bronze

Team Sprint (Maclean, Hoy, Staff)

2003

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Bradley Wiggins, Individual Pursuit

Silver

Team Pursuit (Wiggins, Steele, Hayles, Manning)

Bronze

Team sprint bronze (Hoy, Maclean, Staff)

2002

WORLD MOUNTAIN BIKE CHAMPIONSHIPS

Silver

Steve Peat, Men's Downhill
Fionn Griffiths, Women's Downhill

WORLD TRACK CHAMPIONSHIPS

Gold

Team Sprint (Staff, Maclean, Hoy)
Chris Newton, Points Race
Chris Hoy, Kilo

Silver

Tony Gibb, Scratch Race

Bronze

Team Pursuit (Newton, Steel, Hayles, Manning)

posted by farrell [1310 posts]
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frank wrote:
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Legacy isn't about the local benefits and communities, it is just an excuse for the event organisers to make more money of the back of a big event.
I wish there were more people like you, Gkam. You seem to have a genuine concern for the communities and for the good of cycling in general. I agree it's a pity these people all seem to be about mobey, money, money... I wish there were more people like you who would orgamzie these events with a more community oriented approach. Sadly, it takes a lot of effort and there just aren't enough selfless people to do this without wanting to reap the financial rewards that these events can generate.

There are people like me all over the place, but if you've ever tried to put on a cycle event. You'd soon find out that everyone wants their cut.

If you want the event to pull in the bigger riders, you'll need to go through British Cycling, that aint cheap to start with.

Then the local council will want some money, the police want their share if you have to close a road, even just for a rolling closure, you need their permission.

I could go on and on. It all adds up, then by the time you pay them all, to cover your costs, you either have to have stupidity high entrance fee's, which instantly cuts your field, take on a sponsor, who will want their cut of everything aswell or as many do. Run it at a loose just to have a good event.

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farrell wrote:
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Oh yeah, try and use the velodrome in London.....

There's a wonderful velodrome in Manchester, one of the best in the world in fact.

And hows this for a legacy:

2013.....

You forgot the highlight, when a dozen guys from our club rode the boards for charity!

(Seriously though, the fastest flying lap from one of our lot was 17-ish seconds, which kinda puts into perspective the sub-13 second stuff that the elite men and women churn out time after time.)

If I could have, say, 6 bikes, would it stop me drooling over others that I don't have?

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farrell wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:
Oh yeah, try and use the velodrome in London.....

There's a wonderful velodrome in Manchester, one of the best in the world in fact.

And hows this for a legacy:

What is has the velodrome in Manchester got to do with legacy?

It was opened in 1994....

Legacy is something that is left AFTER an event, not built and used before the event even takes place or is awarded. They hoped to get events in 1996 and 2000 (summer olympics) and eventually got the 2002 commonwealths.

You cannot claim that the velodrome is a legacy of anything. It was build pre event and has been used as a training base for British cycling since. So that long list of riders and achievement's is NOT a legacy.

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'You cannot claim that the velodrome is a legacy of anything. '

I'm not sure that is what is being claimed. The legacy of putting money into top-class sporting venues can be a very high level sporting success, as outlined in that post.

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andyp wrote:
'You cannot claim that the velodrome is a legacy of anything. '

I'm not sure that is what is being claimed. The legacy of putting money into top-class sporting venues can be a very high level sporting success, as outlined in that post.

I don't believe that was what the poster was trying to make out. Why bother listing all that, just describe the investment.

BUT, the investment in top level cycling is also not legacy, it was put in place to get the riders to the point where Britain was dominating the track scene.

Riders do not leave legacy, they leave achievement's, trophy's, records....etc

As I said to someone on twitter today, Legacy should be inclusive, not elitist. Everyone should be able to benefit from a legacy, in which EVERYONE is paying for.

Tax payers put in HOW much to the London 2012 Olympics...what do we have to show?

What was the final totally the government had to stump up for Yorkshire's bad planning of finances for the tour to come this year? £12 million at least count I believe.

When you talk about legacy, but the event is using public money to fund it. The legacy has to include the public who pay for it.

Try getting onto the Lee Valley track...I enquired about holding an event in conjunction with a London charity, having it for disabled riders....I was told, it would be the back end of 2016 before a slot would be available. When I dug deeper, it seems plenty of slots have not been filled but are being kept for corporate events....that haven't even been thought of yet.

Legacy has to be something we can get the kids of today involved in, not just today's elite athletes.

The increase in cycling will be nominal, just because the tour in coming to England. Of that nominal amount, how many would go on to be top riders.....THAT is was legacy is about. Getting people involved in something to bring a new generation though that can continue the LEGACY that will be left for them......

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Gkam84 wrote:
farrell wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:
Oh yeah, try and use the velodrome in London.....

There's a wonderful velodrome in Manchester, one of the best in the world in fact.

And hows this for a legacy:

What is has the velodrome in Manchester got to do with legacy?

It was opened in 1994....

Legacy is something that is left AFTER an event, not built and used before the event even takes place or is awarded. They hoped to get events in 1996 and 2000 (summer olympics) and eventually got the 2002 commonwealths.

You cannot claim that the velodrome is a legacy of anything. It was build pre event and has been used as a training base for British cycling since. So that long list of riders and achievement's is NOT a legacy.

Of course you can claim it is a legacy, it would be churlish and absurd to think otherwise, Manchester may not have got the games in 96 but what would you have expected to happen? For them to just stop work on building the velodrome? Should they have also stopped working on the tennis centre? Or on the City of Manchester stadium? Do you think that velodromes just appear from nowhere?

As a result of the velodrome, British Cycling had a new home, and a revamp, and that lead to the legacy that is the results I posted above.

Manchester now also has an amazing world class BMX track and mountain bike trails all as a result of the success of, and at, that velodrome.

It's definitely a legacy.

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why would describing the investment show what has been achieved as a result? Bizarre.

The Manchester Velodrome was indeed built in the attempt to host a particular event. Since that event, many hundreds of thousands of people have ridden track who would not have done so before. It's available to all, including kids, not just elite athletes. Tax-paying members of the public too.

Lee Valley track - ridden it. It's really not so difficult to get on there. Hosting an event is a totally different thing to 'having a go'.

Think you need to have a little sit down and step away from the shift key.

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And it's not just the track, but the skills park that has been built at the centre.

The scooter and skate ramps, including the full pipe used in Road Party two.

And it's not just British Cycling that have benefited from the velodrome, English Netball and Lacrosse are also based at the centre if I remember correctly.

It seems to me that Gkam has a bee in his bonnet about Lee Valley and is having his views skewed accordingly.

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It has nothing to do with my experience around Lee Valley.

The same as the idiot who commented that I have a problem with Rapha, Drugs and now cycle racing...so I should just shut up?? W****R

Every time I post something, whether it be on a news story, a forum post, a blog....someone picks ONE item and then holds it against me in ever post I make on any subject. It is becoming tiresome, I cannot express my views on things and have a debate with others about my views vs their views without someone being a c**k about it.

That is not aimed at you Farrell, rather at the wider Road.cc "community" I took a while out because of it, you'll notice that many others are no longer around......

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3rd July 2014 - 15:37

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The same as the idiot who commented that I have a problem with Rapha, Drugs and now cycle racing...so I should just shut up?? W****R

Nice debating style, I come on here to read news articles and to find out what is happening not to hear the same people wheel out the same tired arguments, It is certainly not one post, every time there is a drugs post you'll be there, every time there is a sky post ditto, every time there is a rapha post again you will moan. You aren't alone there are others who are equally negative.

It does become incredibly tiresome, If you want to debate feel free but to say there is no legacy, where is your evidence? Have you tried to book Lee Valley? Personally I haven't but know it can be booked if you are prepared to wait long enough. I have used Newport and the legacy is how damn difficult it is to get track time because people want to try it. The legacy is go out on the roads and count the number of cyclists. I have been riding for 20+ years and the numbers have rocketed in the last three or four years. I can remember going on club runs and being in a group of 5, now the same club will have 4 or 5 groups and in those groups 10+ riders. The legacy is that the people on those rides have changed, cycling has become far more normal.

I only wish that more would see cycling as more than a sport, and rather a method of transport, but in time it will happen.

Feel free to say what you like, but don't expect people to sit back and not challenge your constant negativity and sniping.

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posted by mrmo [1031 posts]
3rd July 2014 - 16:14

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The news articles you come to read are still there, no-one is forcing you to comment or indeed read the comments.

Which evidently you don't, because you are asking if I have tried to book Lee Valley..... Rolling On The Floor

I get involved with drugs stories, because I have been involved in various ways through anti doping and medical history with drugs in sport. So why do your criticise that? Away back to your Daily Mail and BBC comments sections.....

I don't get involved with everything Sky or Rapha.

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posted by Gkam84 [8698 posts]
3rd July 2014 - 16:38

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I'll be cycling across on Sunday to see the Tour at Holme Moss, and will be back in May to see a stage of the Tour of Yorkshire. Great news!

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4th July 2014 - 11:30

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