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NSW roads minister says cyclists should be licensed and banned from some roads - for their own safety

Minister Duncan Gay reacts to recent spate of serious injuries and deaths of cyclists in Australian state

The roads minister of the Australian state of New South Wales has said that he is “increasingly persuaded” that cyclists need to be licensed and also says he is considering banning bikes from some of Sydney’s roads – both measures that he claims will improve the safety of riders.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Duncan Gay made his remarks in response to a series of incidents in recent weeks in which cyclists have been seriously injured, as well as two fatalities in the past fortnight, the latest coming yesterday when a man was killed following a collision with a bus at Neutral Bay.

Speaking to 2UE Breakfast, Mr Gay said: “The thing I really need to look at is, if we’re going to put rules in place, and I need to be tougher on car drivers, but I am increasingly persuaded that we need to look at a licence for cyclists.

“It’s not going to worry the ones that are doing the right thing, but the bad ones that are running lights, crossing over, being aggressive, they’re a large part of the statistic,” he went on.

During March, six cyclists out on a club run on Southern Cross Drive suffered serious injuries when the group they were riding with was hit by a car.

According to Mr Gay it is possible that cyclists might be banned from such roads for their own protection, the minister saying, “We will look at it on a safety basis.”

He continued: “The hard thing is, if I put a carte blanche ban in, there are some really good rides that cyclists do, and part of it involves Southern Cross Drive and then on down to Wollongong. I understand how important this is for cyclists, but there have been a couple of accidents there.

He acknowledged that there had been a fall in the number of cyclist fatalities, “but that’s no huge solace because last year was a record year,” with 14 riders killed on the roads of New South Wales.

“We need to get people to be more careful, but the key is to get the people in bigger vehicles to understand that they need to be more observant, but the other part is we need cyclists to actually obey the rules and be helpful as well,” he added.

“Before the phones run off the hook, as I know they will, it is a very small section of cyclists that don’t do the right thing. It would be probably under one per cent,” he concluded.

Phil Ayres, the chief executive of Cycling New South Wales, told Guardian Australia that most of its 10,000 members would be “fundamentally against” attempts to require cyclists to be licensed.

“But we are an organisation that’s grown up to understand there are arguments in favour of it and we’d certainly want to be at the table with government to discuss cyclist safety,” he said.

“It’s important to realise though that licensing bike riders won’t stop them from being hit, as has happened so horrifically in recent weeks and months. Licensing isn’t a safety issue – if you magically licensed all bikes overnight, it won’t stop the accidents.”

He acknowledged that cyclists need to follow the laws of the road, but denied that law-breaking riders were a significant issue.

“There is a rogue element in any group of people in the community,” he explained. “We don’t condone any riders not obeying the road rules – everyone has to adhere to them. It’s not OK to roll through a red light.

“But the thing with cyclists is that they aren’t surrounded by tonnes of metal. What would be a fender scrape for a car is the maiming of an individual or a loss of life for a cyclist.”

In November 2009, one of Mr Gay’s predecessors as New South Wales transport minister, Carl Scully, who served in that capacity from 1996 to 2005, said that cyclists should be banned from the roads.

In the United States, only the state of Hawaii requires compulsory bike licensing, although some states, such as California, leave it to councils or cities to enforce it at local level if the so choose, as happens in Ventura County, part of the Greater Los Angeles area.

Last October, an attempt to introduce such legislation in the state of Georgia was withdrawn in the face of opposition from cyclists.

In November last year, Labour former minister Kate Hoey said that cyclists in the UK should be registered and required to pay “road tax.”

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Gourmet Shot replied to pz1800 | 9 years ago
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pz1800 wrote:

I do believe everyone making a public statement about cycling should first be required to commute to work for a month.

Exactly......in fact lets extend it to all new car drivers as well. Once you realise what getting overtaken by a vehicle traveling at 70mph, 9 inches from your elbow feels like, you might have a tad more empathy.

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chaos | 9 years ago
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When I passed my driving test I was given a license that allowed me to ride and drive all sorts of other stuff, big and small, that I was not trained or tested on. Now we have someone who is suggesting that I need a license to ride a bicycle; a mode of transport I have been using all of my life and I include the time when stabilisers were fitted!

The bicycle is the solution, not the problem!

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northstar | 9 years ago
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It's easier for them to just try (but fail) to ignore it (as demonstrated here as he and others can't stop talking about cyclists...

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antigee | 9 years ago
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live in Melbourne but have a 457 visa so no need to get a Victoria licence my UK one is good - in the UK I could drive a 7.5tonne truck plus a trailer total 12tonnes - lucky when I first passed my test I actually drove a 5tonne truck on a regular basis and an experienced driver rode along and taught me how to use mirrors and assess space needed

here's something from the NSW learn to drive site

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/licensing/tests/hazardperceptiontest/buildyour...

as far as I can tell you can't brake, steer or reduce speed (but that might be browser dependent - I'm being generous)

cyclist appears but you can wait and click on him as your bonnet glides past and get an ok without deviating or slowing

half the "hazards" are stationery obstacles fits with a video I should dig out with an Au' expert in road safety talking about setting speed limits - focussed on speed limit being set to reduce driver injuries when drove off road - other road users hardly got mentioned

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marche | 9 years ago
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One thing that I've noticed when traveling by bike, is how people judge my bike. Back home (Switzerland) it's absolutely a no go to take your bike into a hotel room. Because it is regarded as a vehicle, quite as a car in fact. Kids go to school by bike, so it's an essential part of growing up. When crossing the north american continent by bike, it was considered as a simple toy, you'd store in the trunk of your car to "have fun".
Some years back we even had to buy plates for our bikes in Switzerland – the toy became a vehicle.

https://www.google.ch/search?q=velo+nummer&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=...

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congokid | 9 years ago
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"I need to be tougher on car drivers, but I am increasingly persuaded that we need to look at a licence for cyclists."

That's being 'tougher on car drivers', is it?

“It’s not going to worry the ones that are doing the right thing, but the bad ones that are running lights, crossing over, being aggressive, they’re a large part of the statistic”

I'd like to see those statistics. If they're anything like the UK ones, he's talking out of his arse.

...six cyclists out on a club run on Southern Cross Drive suffered serious injuries when the group they were riding with was hit by a car...

So how many of these cyclists weren't doing the 'right thing'? All? Some? None? Did the driver just decide not to take any chances and wipe them all out?

“there are some really good rides that cyclists do, and part of it involves Southern Cross Drive and then on down to Wollongong ... but there have been a couple of accidents there."

I wonder how many roads he intends to ban motorists from because 'there have been a couple of accidents there'. I suppose 'making the roads safer and providing decent infrastructure for all road users' isn't in his vocabulary.

"... it is a very small section of cyclists that don’t do the right thing. It would be probably under one per cent”

Ah - so the vast majority of cyclists do the 'right thing' after all. His measures therefore won't help anyone or achieve anything positive, but instead further depress cycling in a state that's already very anti-cycling.

And that Phil Ayres, the so-called chief executive of Cycling New South Wales, appears to have assumed the role of cycling's Uncle Tom. He's doing cycling in NSW no favours at all with his pathetic grovelling and acquiescence.

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