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A single wobble would have meant death, said cyclist shaken up by manoeuvre

A cyclist who says he could have been killed by an HGV performing a dangerously close pass has made a video shaming the driver and telling him just how terrifying the experience was.

Before the film starts, he tells the driver, from County Durham-based HP Thompson and Son, that he was aware of the road conditions but that he was visible and it was a bright sunny day when the incident happened on March 10.

“I want the driver to get a full feel for how frightening it is when a lorry overtakes a cyclist in this way,” said Quentin Field-Boden, from Northamptonshire.

 

He said: “it left me quite shaken up. If I was a less experienced cyclist... wobbling about a lot... you could have killed them.

“I hope that perhaps if you do see this video or you’re shown this video by someone... it might help you drive differently in the future, because, take it from me, being on the receiving end of that really is very very frightening.”

Ian Thompson, owner of the lorry company, apologised on behalf of the firm. He told the Northampton Gazette: “I am really upset this has happened. We don’t make a habit of doing this sort of thing.”

Quentin has passed the video onto the police, who say that an inquiry is ongoing.

The video account of the incident joins a growing number of toe-curling videos emerging as the number of cyclists wearing helmet cams grows.

Last week we reported how Sussex police had identified the driver of a Jaguar car who launched an expletive-ridden tirade at a cyclist and also appeared to punch him in a road rage incident earlier this month.

Cyclist Eddie Bell, aged 38, posted video to YouTube of the incident, which took place near Pevensey Bay, East Sussex, the weekend before last. He made a note of the vehicle’s registration number and passed it on to Sussex Police.

In the same week, helmet camera footage of a driver twice brake-checking a cyclist in Glasgow resulted in the motorist, who turned out to be serving a driving ban, being convicted on four separate charges – dangerous driving, breach of the peace, driving without insurance and driving without a licence.

And a few days, before, we brought you news of a Gloucestershire company that sacked a lorry driver who was caught on camera overtaking a cyclist in Lancashire with just inches to spare in what some cyclists viewing the video interpreted as a “punishment pass.”

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cyclingDMlondon [565 posts] 2 years ago
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The only way the driver will 'be made aware' of what he has done, is for him to be tied to a chair, with a doctor in attendance, and beaten until he is unconscious.

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jimc101 [72 posts] 2 years ago
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Fast forward to 2:34 for the overtake, close (thinking the camera lens hasn't helped), but not that close, have had much closer from cars, HGV's and tractors, one of the joys of cycling on UK single carrage way A roads

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STATO [513 posts] 2 years ago
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I dont know jim, watch the slow-mo, the truck is very close at the start. Its right over the riders shadow, given it was mid day thats pretty close.

The point is its too close. Other drivers forced against curb if you watch the 3 cars after.

Lets not make this into an argument of who has had a closer pass, there have been enough stories on here where some unfortunate riders got closer passes than you, and got a coffin as a reward.

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giff77 [1258 posts] 2 years ago
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As Stato says. The truck driver makes not only a close pass but a poorly executed overtake as he forces oncoming traffic to swerve over to the verge and possibly also brake to allow him by. It's really fortunate that Quentin wasn't sucked under the trailer as a result of this incident.

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Richie Watkin [12 posts] 2 years ago
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I think the thing most none cyclist won't understand or the driver obviously is how much suction the lorry creates as it passes at speed. I had three of these lorries do this to me today and the feeling of being sucked into the lorry is the problem, its very hard to keep on track as they pass this close at speed.
They think they are giving you plenty of room and probably don't mean to do it but they don't understand the suction they're creating.

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denzzz28 [29 posts] 2 years ago
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there was also incoming cars from the other side of the road when the lorry overtook the cyclist. and if anybody notice it, they were forced to steer close to the kerb just to give the lorry some space. The lorry should have waited until it was totally safe for him to pass the cyclist when the other side of the road is clear.

A good effort for the cyclist to show the driver the cyclist point of view but that does not give him the feeling of being in that situation. you can not feel the sense of impending danger on a video. the lorry driver should be put in an actual bike.

I hope the driver gets the message and take it into consideration.

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tarquin_foxglove [139 posts] 2 years ago
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Slightly off topic... I really like his telemetry being displayed on the video.

Anyone know what software he will have used to combine the two?

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Richie Watkin [12 posts] 2 years ago
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I think its the Garmin Virb isn't it?

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Neil753 [447 posts] 2 years ago
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I feel sorry for the cyclist; the lorry was clearly too close. When I'm in my artic I hold back, well back, because I don't want to pressurise the cyclist. Ok, it may upset a few drivers behind me but I often get a thankyou wave from the cyclist.

Personally, I'd like to see tamper proof cameras installed in all commercial vehicles, recording not just the view from the cab but the view within the cab as well, and footage supplied to the police on request as a legal requirement. It suspect that most haulage firms (and bus companies) would recoup their costs very quickly through drivers being much more careful, saving both fuel and reducing insurance costs.

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nbrus [296 posts] 2 years ago
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When you are overtaken by a large lorry, the gust of wind created almost knocks you off your bike. A video doesn't quite show this, but it is frightening as you almost get sucked in towards the lorry.

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levermonkey [680 posts] 2 years ago
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Clever and effective!

Mr Field-Boden has shown the driver that he is not just a road user, not just a cyclist, but, that he is a human being, a person.

It would be nice to know what the lorry driver made of this post.

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 2 years ago
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Finally, a cyclist that also has a face. Not just a shouty, swearing bloke behind a camera, complaining every time they get passed by a vehicle.

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Dr_Lex [350 posts] 2 years ago
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Neil753 wrote:

[...]When I'm in my artic I hold back, well back, because I don't want to pressurise the cyclist. Ok, it may upset a few drivers behind me but I often get a thankyou wave from the cyclist.
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I wish all commercial drivers were as considerate & sensible as you.

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hugebob [4 posts] 2 years ago
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I live in the States and the same "confusion" exists around how to drive around cyclists. Some people pass me wide. Most don't. I just don't understand how people can so willingly endanger others because where their going is so important. Would you pass that cyclist without a care if they were your loved one? The next time you see a cyclist, think of them as your own and pass wide. PLEASE?

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hugebob [4 posts] 2 years ago
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cyclingDMlondon wrote:

The only way the driver will 'be made aware' of what he has done, is for him to be tied to a chair, with a doctor in attendance, and beaten until he is unconscious.

A much better lesson would be for him to experience what it feels like to be passed like that on a bike.

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paulmcmillan [97 posts] 2 years ago
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Too many drivers define a "safe" pass or "enough" room when overtaking a cyclist as:

I didn't knock you off did I?

What are you complaining about then?

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tim9877@gmail.com [46 posts] 2 years ago
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An excellent, mature and responsible response to
totally unacceptable driving behaviour. Well done.

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sidesaddle [90 posts] 2 years ago
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That sort of thing happens to me most days, I quite enjoy the backdraft from the truck. Why do we have to live in a world of H&S whinging? Wimp.

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CJSTEVENS1955 [86 posts] 2 years ago
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You winey pom. I suppose this is a cheaper way of dealing with the issue without paying for counselling and crying

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mrmo [2093 posts] 2 years ago
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Dr_Lex wrote:
Neil753 wrote:

[...]When I'm in my artic I hold back, well back, because I don't want to pressurise the cyclist. Ok, it may upset a few drivers behind me but I often get a thankyou wave from the cyclist.
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I wish all commercial drivers were as considerate & sensible as you.

In all honesty i find truck drivers to be fairly considerate, you get the odd idiot, they are humans after all. But compared to taxi's, school runners, young women, reps they are positively saintly.

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Flying Scot [921 posts] 2 years ago
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mrmo wrote:

In all honesty i find truck drivers to be fairly considerate, you get the odd idiot, they are humans after all. But compared to taxi's, school runners, young women, reps they are positively saintly.

That's my experience too, though I would add old farts to the list and remove the reps to personalise it to myself, 5 out of 10 bad passes are old gits for me, the other one is old 'I'm a drug dealer' used range rover types.

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Vorash [4 posts] 2 years ago
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Rule 163 of the highway code states " give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car"

Throw the book at the lorry driver imo.
I have a Contour GPS cam on my bike and there are countless times this happens.

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dughs [15 posts] 2 years ago
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Crazy pass by the lorry driver, he should get a ban for that (a long ban)
However......... I know I might be at risk on this one but here goes!
The correct way to do business is to report the the police with a copy of the video in hand. Releasing the video following a police investigation and court would be the best option. Only if a company name needs establishing from a wider audience (managed by the authorities) is when a public video should be released. All of the posting video and shouting out a registration only serves to frustrate. The drivers won't care because they clearly won't follow the cycling media. Maybe we should just pass this to the authorities to produce a name and shame list from the footage collated. We should have a 3 month Sin Bin for drivers caught on camera, this would make them think that when passing a cyclist, if they are recording it could end in a 3 month removal of a licence? It could be the best message to drivers to not be that worried about gaining that seeming valuable 15 second earlier arrival at the final destination by passing a cyclist dangerously.

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bikebot [2149 posts] 2 years ago
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sidesaddle wrote:

That sort of thing happens to me most days, I quite enjoy the backdraft from the truck. Why do we have to live in a world of H&S whinging? Wimp.

Cycle with your family much?

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DanTe [190 posts] 2 years ago
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Neil 753 = good guy.
One with a good idea too. I think cameras in large vehicles is a great idea. I'm sure they could do with a few all over the wagon for their own security purposes too..
Can't be easy being a commercial driver getting hustled to be places at certain times, or else. No excuse for dangerous driving.
Everybody seems to be in an incredie hurry to get nowhere inpaticular..
The other day for instance I nearly got pinged off by a people carrier full of a family of all ages, the wing mirror can't of been much more than a ft-18 inches from my head.
50 metres later with a massive sign in full view they do a left into a garden centre, cutting me up in the process.
What in that garden centre would of changed in th 5 seconds they may of saved??

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Beefy [380 posts] 2 years ago
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It' seems to be more of a problem on A roads, I had an MPV so close the wing mirror clipped me on the arse. I really think some drivers don't see others car, bike foot ect as human once behind the wheel. The helmet cams seem to be growing in popularity and it's bringing a problem we have endured for years to light.... Good job I say

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mikeprytherch [223 posts] 2 years ago
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Rule 163 of the highway code states " give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car"

I've been in a car when my wing mirror has been taken off by a car overtaking me, I've also been hit by wing mirrors whilst out on my bike.

This highway code rule is open to interpretation in my book, its needs to be much more specific over the space that should be given.

However most people on the roads just don't know the highway code, I would bet money that more drivers would fail rather than pass the drivers theory test if they took it again, so whilst we seem to always quote the rule book, what use is quoting something that a majority don't know, yes sort out the highway code, but also sort out the fact that Mr Average doesn't know it.

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levermonkey [680 posts] 2 years ago
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I find that it isn't generally lorry drivers (even the dreaded 8-leg tippers) that pass dangerously but buses, black cabs, Chelsea tractors and chav mobiles (small hatches with aftermarket exhaust systems). Well, inside the M25 anyway.

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cyclingDMlondon [565 posts] 2 years ago
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levermonkey wrote:

Clever and effective!

Mr Field-Boden has shown the driver that he is not just a road user, not just a cyclist, but, that he is a human being, a person.

It would be nice to know what the lorry driver made of this post.

At a guess, he will have taken a screenshot of the video, printed it out and used it to wipe his arse after his morning constitutional.

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Wookie [242 posts] 2 years ago
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