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Video: [Updated] Police appeal for attacked rider to come forward after London confrontation turns violent

Let's be careful out there...

We’ve all been tempted to give an earful to a driver who does something stupid, but as this helmet cam video shows, drivers who don’t care about the road rules sometimes carry passengers who have short tempers and poor impulse control.

[Update January 27] Police have appealed for the rider involved to come forward so that they can investigate the incident in which the rider remonstrates with a driver and is subsequently punched and knocked to the ground. According to the Evening Standard, a police spokesman said they were keen to speak to the cycle rage victim should he want to report the incident which happened at around 9.15am on Thursday in Farringdon Road, London.

In the comments on the video, the helmet cam rider George 'Jude' Hill says: “I have reported this to the police, I am trying to find the cyclist as I tried to tell him I had it on video, but he looked pretty dazed. Need him to report the incident in order to get prosecutions. Could you all share this as widely as possible to try and find him?”

In the video you see a white Audi stopped just outside the advanced stop box of a junction in Farringdon. George stops just behind the box, next to the car, and two other cyclists ride past him into the box.

The driver of the Audi then drives into the box. A rider in a black beanie pulls back from the stop line and shouts at the driver that this is a cycle area. When the lights change, the driver accelerates quickly away.

The rider in the beanie comes past George Hill and follows the white Audi. He is seen shouting at the driver at the next lights, calling him a “F*cking prick” and saying something that sounds like: “You ran over my f*cking foot mate.” (It's unclear from the video whether that is what happened.)

Hill rides past the altercation and by the time he turns round a man in a white shirt is standing next to the car, in front of the angry cyclist. You see him apparently attempt to punch the rider and then shove him, pushing him off his bike.

There’s more angry shouting as the rider picks himself up and gets back on his bike. The man in the white shirt then gets into the back of the Audi.

George attempts to get the rider’s attention but he rides away, back in the direction he’d come from.

As George implies, without a complaint from the rider who was hit the police are very unlikely to take action, despite the video.

In May last year the Mayor of London's cycling commissioner Andrew Gilligan pledged to start enforcing advanced stop lines, using CCTV cameras to catch infringers. He reiterated the point in August and during last year's Operation Safeway road safety crackdown, over 1,000 fixed penalty notices were issued to drivers for contravening traffic signals.

But we’ll leave the last word to YouTube commenter Jon: “Be safe out there, cyclists! Remember that you're dealing with angry idiots in 2 ton metal death machines.”

John has been writing about bikes and cycling for over 30 years since discovering that people were mug enough to pay him for it rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work.

He was heavily involved in the mountain bike boom of the late 1980s as a racer, team manager and race promoter, and that led to writing for Mountain Biking UK magazine shortly after its inception. He got the gig by phoning up the editor and telling him the magazine was rubbish and he could do better. Rather than telling him to get lost, MBUK editor Tym Manley called John’s bluff and the rest is history.

Since then he has worked on MTB Pro magazine and was editor of Maximum Mountain Bike and Australian Mountain Bike magazines, before switching to the web in 2000 to work for CyclingNews.com. Along with road.cc founder Tony Farrelly, John was on the launch team for BikeRadar.com and subsequently became editor in chief of Future Publishing’s group of cycling magazines and websites, including Cycling Plus, MBUK, What Mountain Bike and Procycling.

John has also written for Cyclist magazine, edited the BikeMagic website and was founding editor of TotalWomensCycling.com before handing over to someone far more representative of the site's main audience.

He joined road.cc in 2013. He lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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mikeprytherch | 10 years ago
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Is there any right or wrong here, the Audi driver shouldn't have done what he did, but the way the cyclist acted was disgraceful also, the aggressive way he rode to the next set of lights with the full intention of a confrontation with the Audi driver, and that's exactly what he got, clearly he got more of a confrontation than he bargained for, but he was looking for a reaction wasn't he, however the physical violence form the rear passenger really took it a step too far again, so this just escalated to were it sadly ended up.

The driver, passenger and rider should all be reprimanded because non of them came out of this looking good.

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mikeprytherch replied to Ush | 10 years ago
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Ush][quote=AyBee wrote:

Re all the attention focused on the cyclist, yes it wasn't wise or dignified or productive, but he didn't actually commit a crime.

Really ? did you not hear what he shouted at the car driver in a public place, foul and offensive language is a crime my good man see section 5 of the Public Order Act

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Goldfever4 | 10 years ago
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Car - shouldn't have gone in the ASL

Cyclist - Over reacted, shouldn't have shouted so aggressively

Passenger - Inexplicable violence

This is pure & simply just escalation of a minor issue because it's London in rush hour. If my foot was ran over by an Audi I don't think I'd have been that fast on my bike straight afterwards...

The only thing you can take away from this is to just take a breath after some bad driving or a near miss, and let it slide - because it just isn't worth getting yourself into a red mist. Better for your blood pressure and potentially stops you from getting in this kind of situation.

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zanf replied to jason.timothy.jones | 10 years ago
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jason.timothy.jones wrote:

What actually pissed me of was the amount of people that just walked past and didn't do anything to either help the cyclist, take rego numbers or calm the situation.

We have turned into a country of cowards who wont help out a fellow human in trouble

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The bystander effect is a social psychological phenomenon that refers to cases in which individuals do not offer any means of help to a victim when other people are present. The probability of help is inversely related to the number of bystanders.

Bystander effect

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arfa | 10 years ago
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If you go looking for trouble in London, you will find it in spades.
I have made the same mistake as the cyclist and you have to as yourself, what are you seeking to achieve ? You will never get the "sorry mate, my mistake" which is arguably your best outcome and thereafter the outlook steadily declines. Best advice I can give is get off your bike and count to ten. Then think about how you want to respond as there is far, far too much adrenaline pumping in the heat of the moment.

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northstar | 10 years ago
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Some "epic" victim blaming going on here, i'd LOVE to see how some of you would you react in the EXACT same situation, lot of armchair critics talking rubbish here...

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arfa | 10 years ago
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Not sure it is all victim blaming as believe it or not I have been in that same position several times. His reaction is not unnatural but did it end well for him ? I don't think so. Even if the oik is successfully prosecuted (improbable I'm afraid) is that a good outcome ? Maybe but our cyclist in this incident could easily have been seriously injured or even stabbed by aoom of the loons out there. Not good

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Chuck replied to northstar | 10 years ago
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northstar wrote:

Some "epic" victim blaming going on here, i'd LOVE to see how some of you would you react in the EXACT same situation, lot of armchair critics talking rubbish here...

It's not about blame, it's about whether you want to end up at home or lying in the road. Personally I'll always choose the former.

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northstar replied to Chuck | 10 years ago
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Chuck wrote:
northstar wrote:

Some "epic" victim blaming going on here, i'd LOVE to see how some of you would you react in the EXACT same situation, lot of armchair critics talking rubbish here...

It's not about blame, it's about whether you want to end up at home or lying in the road. Personally I'll always choose the former.

Yes it is about blame, neither do i, now answer this question, what would you have done if your foot was run over?

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OldRidgeback | 10 years ago
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It's an assault. The cyclist could've been more measured in his words but that doesn't take away from the fact that he was the victim here. When a car driver behaves like an arse, it's easy to get annoyed and easy as well to be vocal about that. I hope the police do take action as the passenger in the car deserves a charge of common assault.

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seven | 10 years ago
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arfa | 10 years ago
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Not sure it is all victim blaming as believe it or not I have been in that same position several times. His reaction is not unnatural but did it end well for him ? I don't think so. Even if the oik is successfully prosecuted (improbable I'm afraid) is that a good outcome ? Maybe but our cyclist in this incident could easily have been seriously injured or even stabbed by some of the loons out there. Not good

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arfa | 10 years ago
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it is an assault but the assailant is going to argue self defense. "Here we are driving along the road, minding our own business and this nutter comes chasing after us on a bike and bangs on the car. I get out to investigate, he shouts in my face and makes an aggressive move towards me and I defend myself that is all". I would be very surprised if the CPS take the case I'm afraid to say, as the assailant will probably buy in some heavy duty barrister and get off, even if the CPS take it to court.

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alexb | 10 years ago
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Charge the driver with infringing the ASL.
The cyclist with behaviour liable to cause a breach of the peace.
Then the passenger with assault and send them all on anger management courses.

I think this would be the fairest result all around.

I reckon a bit of maths would prove the Audi driver was speeding as well.

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Grizzerly | 10 years ago
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To my certain knowledge, there are at least 3 ex SAS guys commuting on bikes in London currently. It is to be hoped that next time your man decided to attack a cyclist, he draws one of those short straws.

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cisbtint | 10 years ago
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I've looked in my road, but haven't seen an Audi reg KW13CWA.
Has anyone else looked ?
The info could be useful.
Keep on looking.  19

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arfa | 10 years ago
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Most of those "forces types" are trained to avoid those sorts of situations. Sure if backed into a corner they can deal with it but that's the last resort

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nod | 10 years ago
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Drivers think they own the roads and are constantly spewing out the "we pay road tax", "get out of my way and into the gutter" shit all the time.

So, stand your ground and swear/punch their cars/faces. They don't care about you or improving the drivet-cyclist relationship and sharing a shared resource. Fuck 'em all to hell.

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levermonkey | 10 years ago
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Can't say I have a lot of sympathy for the rider.

A driver who makes a sudden and violent move into an ASL. What you have is an idiot who has very little regard for other road users. Cyclist then subjects car and occupants to an aggressive rant moving his bike dangerously close to the paintwork.

Whether the Audi went over his foot or not [the driver could not have known and it could be argued that the cyclist placed his foot in front of the wheel] the cyclist clearly pedals furiously to catch the Audi at the next set of lights and proceeds to continue the confrontation. Tempers are high and cyclist gets clumped. All rather predictable.

Riding in London I have developed the following survival guide.
1, Remonstrate from a distance as the other cyclist did.
Non-verbal communication is best - stare at them, give them a pitying look or a dismissive shake of the head and a sigh. If you must say something say it under your breath.
2, Let them go you don't want them anywhere near you.
3, Take a deep breath and pedal on. Put a bit more effort in and feel the tension melt away.
4, Don't bottle it up - you will make a mistake and then you will be the "bad cyclist".
5, When you get home put the footage on YouTube if you filmed it. Insurance companies pump in the reg. numbers of new customers and randomly input current customers.

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andyp | 10 years ago
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Driver - twonk. Cyclist - twonk. End of story.

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kie7077 replied to southseabythesea | 10 years ago
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southseabythesea wrote:

It's not worth confronting an aggressive driver, whether you're the rider or a bystander. It's also not worth having a go at a driver whose clearly a knob in the first place...

Just let them off, nah give em (verbal) hell if they endanger your life. And if they do something stupid you can get the t**ts arrested.

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Shades | 10 years ago
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He (cyclist) was really spoiling for a fight. I was expecting some sort of Queensberry Rules fisticuffs to ensue and then they call it quits. If you're going to bellow at a motorist make sure you have an escape route.

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GoingRoundInCycles replied to northstar | 10 years ago
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....now answer this question, what would you have done if your foot was run over?

If I could cycle like a bat out of hell like that bloke with a crushed foot, I would give Sir David Brailsford a call and ask if there are any jobs going.

Seriously, what we have here is knob-end aggressively confronts knob-ends and gets twatted for it.

That's life. If you are the type to dish it out, don't complain when it is your turn to take it.

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goggy | 10 years ago
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We as cyclists need to push for traffic lights that give cyclists 10 seconds of green in advance of general traffic (and by that I mean anything with an engine - yes, you moped rider you know I mean you) like they do in Holland.

I had exactly the same scenario heading south from Tower Bridge last week in the evening. Racy guy in his Porsche Boxster annoyed by the cyclists that pulled into the ASL. He did the same thing, but didn't touch any of the cyclists. He then raced off as the lights changed.

I trundled along a bit later and waved at him as he sat in the traffic up front heading from the A2 towards the Elephant & Castle roundabout (those that cycle the route will know it is gridlocked).

It made me smile, and that was enough for me, as well as wonder why on earth anyone would want to drive in this congested city ... I spend 45 minutes each way on my commute and generally pass stationary traffic the whole time.

Cycling is a great stress-reliever for me, even in London. But (a big but) we all need to chill and let those stupid enough to sit in gridlocked traffic every day continue to do so.

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American tifosi | 10 years ago
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When you aggressively pursue someone and shout obscenity's at them, you might get punched in your mouth. Illogical reaction with a logical conclusion.  40

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ironmancole | 10 years ago
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Seems to me that this is a classic case of entitled motorist becoming resentful of cyclists 'in his way'. I say this because at the start the ASL box is clear and only when cyclists start to fill it does the driver decide to re-position himself clearly in an attempt to get off the line as quickly as possible.

Quite reasonably the cyclist calmly pointed out to the driver that he had now illegally entered a protected area and I imagine he would have been told to $$$$ off or similar before the driver stuck his foot down.

He didn't have his foot run over but it's obvious the Audi driver had complete contempt for the impromptu educational lesson and in racing off so aggressively and close it was hardly safe.

When he caught up he was understandably upset, we all know how often motorists behave dangerously around vulnerable road users and this constant exposure does heighten our personal sense of danger.

The issue is society at large has adopted an incredible and somewhat unique level of ignorance towards acceptable and unacceptable danger. When Michael Jackson dangled his son out of the window a few years back there was international backlash due to the danger he exposed the baby to. How many babies per year actually die from being dropped out of high storey windows anyway so statistically it's pretty safe.

Contrast Audi man in 2 tonnes of metal box accelerating to lethal speed in just a few seconds in partnership with the 'road tax' mentality and as the annual KSI figures show, year after sickening year, this is catastrophic but does not attract international protest.

The assault was just common thuggery. I would say there is no reason why the police should not seek prosecution for infringing an ASL especially given the fact it was already occupied and his efforts were clearly selfish and aimed at circumnavigating the protection cyclists so desperately need.

The assault is another issue and generally the police are reluctant to force a driver to reveal the identity of any passenger making the car an even more effective method of getting away with things that wouldn't wash in any other scenario.

I'd forward this to Boris and demand the driver is traced and prosecuted as a bare minimum as a test of commitment to protecting the vulnerable from those with no respect for an ASL.

Reality is the Audi driver has done it before, will do it again as he can get away with it and when he does go on to 'accidentally' kill someone it'll be yet another case of very avoidable tragedy.

The insurance companies should set up a portal to allow the public to submit footage of drivers. The current system of driving like a maniac all year with only blind luck stopping any number of deaths and injuries and then presenting to an insurance company as being a responsible individual is incredibly naive.

The Audi driver is clearly aggressive and unable to comprehend the immense risk to others that presents so it's only right his insurers are aware of how he actually drives on a daily basis.

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workhard | 10 years ago
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two dicks. only difference is the number of wheels.

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Neil753 | 10 years ago
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Probably the most telling thing is the number of thumbs down, on Youtube for this video. This sort of thing has always gone on, but portraying aggression is just making everything all the more polarised.

There are some seriously dangerous drivers about, plenty of dickhead cyclists too, and a growing number of videographers itching to publicise the growing conflict.

All I know is that despite actively choosing routes less likely to cause conflict, abstaining from cycle events that so obviously inconvenience other parties, obeying all traffic signals, slowing down in town (a concept apparently alien to many riders) and getting off and walking at junctions where the presence of cyclists (whilst perfectly lawful) clearly causes "issues", the animosity shown towards me and my family is increasing, and we believe this is happening because of this behavioural "arms race", fuelled in no small measure by the recording of incidents like these on social media.

I don't know what the solution is, but the escalation of this situation, portrayed on the screens of millions of peeps, some of whom will no doubt have a seriously bad attitude to cyclists already, is simply not the answer.

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TheCyclingRooster | 10 years ago
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Hi to you all following this item. The passenger showed a very clear and wilful aggression towards the cyclist albeit the cyclist used a few expletives,nothing uncommon these days.
Well the driver certainly needs educating and possibly a fine and points for breaching a cycle-only box at the lights.
The registration number is no problem KW13 CMA was very clearly visible.
This is one case that like a murder that does not produce a body but still gets a conviction should be taken all of the way.

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Gus T | 10 years ago
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AFAIK, the Police do not need a complainant in a case of assault in a public place and prehaps we should all look back at this earlier article & the Police's response : http://road.cc/content/news/108852-police-appeal-leads-arrest-aggressive...

One rule for one?

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