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Man who claimed "there are too many bicycle people on the road" caused carnage outside Kingston railway station...

A BMW driver who hit a cyclist and two pedestrians, then lodged his car into a double decker bus, while astride a low wall, has been disqualified from driving for six months.

The driver, Shibob Li, 49, originally blamed the cyclist for causing him to panic and lost control of his vehicle outside Kingston railway station, as we reported last year.

But Li pleaded guilty to driving without due care and attention at Lavender Hill Magistrates’ Court last month.

Li, the manager of Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture in Fife Road, drove his BMW out of Fife Road Kingston and attempted to drive the wrong way  into Clarence Street, according to the Kingston Guardian.

Paramedics treated two women - one of whom the cyclist - and a man at the scene. One of the women was airlifted to hospital with severe leg injuries. One of the injured was a refugee from war in Syria.

A traffic officer said the driver had hit a cyclist at the pedestrian crossing outside Cappadocia restaurant.

He went on to hit the two pedestrians as his car careered down the street.

Magistrates fined Li £300 on top of his driving ban.

Li said at the time of the incident: “Of course I regret. But it is not just my fault.

“[The cyclist] started shouting and caused my panic. I was panicked and lost control of the car.

“I think people cycling, they need to pay due attention. There are too many bicycle people on the road.

“They do not really watch the other people. Sometimes they just come quickly.”

After an unpromising start, having to be bribed by her parents to learn to ride without stabilisers, Sarah became rather keener on cycling in her university years, and was eventually persuaded to upgrade to proper road cycling by the prospect of a shiny red Italian bike, which she promptly destroyed by trapping a pair of knickers in the rear derailleur. Sarah writes about about cycling every weekend on road.cc.

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fast as fupp [25 posts] 2 years ago
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what a bell end.

6 months not enough!

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dave atkinson [6139 posts] 2 years ago
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We never did do the t-shirt  4

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toothache90 [39 posts] 2 years ago
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Again the courts show just how biased they are towards drivers. With that amount of carnage he only gets 6 months ban and £300 fine. These judges are complete clowns!

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northstar [1108 posts] 2 years ago
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tourdelound [151 posts] 2 years ago
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Li said at the time of the incident: “Of course I regret. But it is not just my fault.

“[The cyclist] started shouting and caused my panic. I was panicked and lost control of the car.

“I think people cycling, they need to pay due attention. There are too many bicycle people on the road.

“They do not really watch the other people. Sometimes they just come quickly.”

Why is it not just his fault?
He attempted to drive the wrong way into Clarence Street. Would you not expect a cyclist or motor vehicle to to shout or sound their horn if you were doing something wrong.

Six month ban? Another justice fail.

Come on, this clown should not be on the roads in a motor vehicle again, end of.  102

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matthewn5 [639 posts] 2 years ago
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I like "bicycle people" though. We are people, not cyclists.

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mlimburn [28 posts] 2 years ago
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Getting really P***ed off at these stupid sentences.
They should have a minimum 12 month ban before they can apply to take a driving test again, and shouldn't be allowed their license back until they have completed and passed the test with NO exceptions.

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Neil753 [447 posts] 2 years ago
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allez neg [497 posts] 2 years ago
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tourdelound wrote:

Li said at the time of the incident: “Of course I regret. But it is not just my fault.

“[The cyclist] started shouting and caused my panic. I was panicked and lost control of the car.

“I think people cycling, they need to pay due attention. There are too many bicycle people on the road.

“They do not really watch the other people. Sometimes they just come quickly.”

Why is it not just his fault?
He attempted to drive the wrong way into Clarence Street. Would you not expect a cyclist or motor vehicle to to shout or sound their horn if you were doing something wrong.

Six month ban? Another justice fail.

Come on, this clown should not be on the roads in a motor vehicle again, end of.  102

I'm a bicycle person, I certainly sometimes come quickly.

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allez neg [497 posts] 2 years ago
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....but I think I can get some cream to rub on for that

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IanW1968 [251 posts] 2 years ago
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We are the bicycle people, love it.

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Super Domestique [1596 posts] 2 years ago
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Not sure what the brand of car he drove had anything to do with the story, other than yet another stereotype.

The guy would have been guilty whatever car he drove.

Come on road.cc you are better than that.

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badback [302 posts] 2 years ago
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If I saw a car coming towards me the wrong way down a one way street I think I'd start shouting and waving my arms. If they could miss a no entry sign who says they wouldn't miss me.

I think it's about time they started crushing a few cars as well as handing out a driving ban. I'm sure that would sharpen a few peoples acts up.

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seven [142 posts] 2 years ago
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Road CC, would you care to comment on why you've made such a big deal in the headline and picture over the guy being at the wheel of a BMW? For one thing he doesn't seem to even fit the brash, overconfident, risk-taking "BMW driver" stereotype that it looks like you are attempting to employ.

Is it just click bait, or do you believe the type of car he was driving has a real bearing on the story? No doubt it helps us to recall your reporting on the incident when it happened last year, but that's only because you made it such a large part of the original story too, so my question stands.

I don't drive a BMW (or any car for that matter). I'm just concerned that you're perhaps needlessly pandering to prejudice by making it such a prominent part of the story.

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mattanthony [10 posts] 2 years ago
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Six months ban and £300 costs? At least he didn't kill anyone I suppose. Close though - I suspect he will do so next time, as he clearly hasn't learnt anything from this blaming the "bicycle person" as the culprit here.

HE TRIED TO DRIVE THE WRONG WAY DOWN A ONE WAY STREET.

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Gizmo_ [1332 posts] 2 years ago
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Tiny question: why is the make of car he was driving even slightly relevant?

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jarredscycling [456 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm really confused why the make of the car is so significant in this story??? Clearly a travesty of sentencing but really nothing what so ever to do with the vehicle manufacturer. I seriously doubt BMW have installed a hit cyclists & pedestrians gear in their newest models

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mikroos [257 posts] 2 years ago
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Wow, do you hate BMW so much that you had to repeat that name so many times?

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austen.croydonc... [10 posts] 2 years ago
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Disqualified for 6 months - should have been jailed for that long.

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Jonny_Trousers [245 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned it already, but why is the make of...  1

Love that t-shirt!

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vbvb [521 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm shocked by this! I mean, what model was the BMW? No mention of the colour either.

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ironmancole [276 posts] 2 years ago
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Drives the wrong way on the road then has a go at the cyclist for having the audacity to shout and wave instead of just being hit quietly with no fuss.

Panicked? Is he a horse? If that truly panics him I'd suggest the road is no place for him. And, let's be honest...we all really know what BMW drivers are like  105

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contrabland [9 posts] 2 years ago
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Strange that you fail to mention the make of bike the cyclist he hit was riding, or the brand of shoes the pedestrians were wearing, or the type of bus. How do you expect your readers to stereotype the victims of this driver's actions without this important information?

Kind regards,
BMW driver and cyclist.

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mrchrispy [434 posts] 2 years ago
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sadly something bad will have to happen to a loved one of a judge/politician before they start thinking about making the license something you earn rather than something you have a right to.

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Simon E [2539 posts] 2 years ago
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Everyone knows that many BMW drivers have traditionally driven as if they 'own the road'.*

But this fellow seems to be a bit short of standard BMW driver aggression. Can one of the Beemer fans on here pop round and sort him out with some road rage training? Can't have standards slipping like this!

http://theweek.com/article/index/248281/its-not-your-imagination-bmw-dri...

But don't get complacent, as steaming up behind are Audi drivers, the "new cocks of the road".
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=974950

* note: I did not say "all"

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farrell [1950 posts] 2 years ago
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I've often wondered, usually in the moments following an act of spectacular automotive bellendery, do BMWs just attract utter cocks to drive them? Or do people turn in to utter cocks after they start driving them?

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pdw [49 posts] 2 years ago
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Very poor reporting.

I'd expect road.cc to be fighting lazy stereotypes, not peddling them.

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Flying Scot [908 posts] 2 years ago
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You would get the same penalty for doing 100mph on a deserted motorway.

This nugget drives the wrong way down a one way street, causing severe injury and damage and gets the same.....

THERE ARE TOO MANY CANT DRIVE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD.

Compulsory tests every 5 years please.

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Nick T [913 posts] 2 years ago
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I cycle every day. I also own a BMW.

Who knew that the two things weren't mutually exclusive, eh?

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Neil753 [447 posts] 2 years ago
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pdw wrote:

Very poor reporting.

I'd expect road.cc to be fighting lazy stereotypes, not peddling them.

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I agree, poor reporting, but there is a serendipitous advantage to stereotyping BMW drivers in this way.

BMWs attract a lot of drivers who want to drive fast, but don't want to die if they overcook it. For midsize luxury cars, this phenonenon particularly affects the BMW 3 Series and, to a lesser extent, the Audi A4.

The safer a driver feels, the more risks they will take. It's all about risk compensation. This isn't exclusive to BMW drivers - older readers may recall that, when seat belts became compulsory in the UK, pedestrian KSIs shot up.

If the press inadvertently make some drivers less likely to choose cars that protect occupants from injury at higher speeds, then other road users will be less likely to be injured or killed.

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