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NIMBG - Not in My Back Graveyard: Plea not to build cycle path alongside cemetery in Denbigh

Residents: ‘It’s bad enough having a cycle path near our homes, let alone by a place of rest’

Residents of Denbigh are outraged by a plan to build a cycle path alongside a cemetery in town.

The Vale of Clwyd cycle route and the Denbigh walking and cycling network have been under consultation, and this week it was announced that a planning application would be submitted next year despite “strong opposition” to the route alongside Ystrad Road Cemetery.

According to the North Wales Daily Post, Denbighshire Council is in favour of the sustainable travel route despite concerns that cyclists would be passing as burial ceremonies were carried out.

According to the consultation document: “The route follows the former railway line past playing fields and Denbigh High School on the left to pass beneath a minor road and a cemetery on the right with backs of gardens directly on the left.”

The Denbigh Town Plan, drawn up by the council, highlights the need for residents being able to commute ‘safely and sustainably to jobs which are available elsewhere’, an aim that brought them to the consultation on the bike path.

Ian Evans, who lives nearby said: “I find it disgusting and disrespectful that Denbighshire Council are actually proposing to put the cycle track on the grounds of the cemetery on Ystrad Road.
“It’s bad enough putting it slap bang at the back our properties let alone on top of a place of rest.
“I’m all for a cycle track but please DCC be a little sympathetic as to where it goes.”

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Max_headset | 9 years ago
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Just thought I would post this update a year later...... In the end shock horror the Planning Committee ignored officer advice and voted against it. Will try to get list of councillors that voted against in case you get the chance next election to vote them out.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/council-reject-denbigh-cycle-...

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w jones | 10 years ago
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Let's not change anything and to go back to living in caves...move on move out the less petrol we use the better cycling rules...

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The _Kaner | 10 years ago
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Scared the funeral cortege will be hampered by slow moving cyclists....  24
How very dare they!

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IHphoto | 10 years ago
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And what is the difference compared to people walking in graveyards? Or should they need appointments? AFAIK they are public spaces and indeed anyone can turn up to a funeral - if that's their want (unless the ANC ban you). It's completely spurious nonsense with a clear self-interested and spiteful agenda.

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Max_headset | 10 years ago
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link to report on forcibly abandoned cycle track in the 90's http://70.33.241.140/~coedy216/Lon%20Clwyd/Lon%20Clwyd%20Report.pdf

and in the daily post picky the cycle track is not that bit of track in the foreground its that large strip of green by the houses in the background.. as ever the delightful Kelly picks up a story from the disgruntled resident, does some research on facebook, fails to contact the guy from the Council and slants the story against big brother at the council. . hoping the controversy might raise falling sales in Denbigh of the next few issues.They used to allow readers to comment on web site stories but the facility was removed to reduce options to criticise them.

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FluffyKittenofT... | 10 years ago
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Just don't use this route in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

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Some Fella | 10 years ago
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Ian Evans - seen today

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allez neg replied to Some Fella | 10 years ago
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Careful now

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Al__S | 10 years ago
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South of Cambridge, NCN 11 passes through a churchyard (with old graves) at Whittlesford.

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a.jumper replied to Al__S | 10 years ago
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Al__S wrote:

South of Cambridge, NCN 11 passes through a churchyard (with old graves) at Whittlesford.

Not far north of Cambridge, the A149 passes through a cemetery near King's Lynn south gates and the Norwich ring road goes through one between Bowthorpe Road and B1108 Earlham Road. Must be something about the East of England.

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OldRidgeback replied to a.jumper | 10 years ago
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a.jumper wrote:
Al__S wrote:

South of Cambridge, NCN 11 passes through a churchyard (with old graves) at Whittlesford.

Not far north of Cambridge, the A149 passes through a cemetery near King's Lynn south gates and the Norwich ring road goes through one between Bowthorpe Road and B1108 Earlham Road. Must be something about the East of England.

One of Edinburgh's cycle routes is on an old railway line and goes right past a graveyard.

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allez neg | 10 years ago
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I blame all those sportive riders crimping one off behind the gravestones.

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Guyz2010 | 10 years ago
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Really don't see what can be so bad about a cycle track. People like this are exactly what is wrong with progression with public infrastructure in England. Why do the authorities even listen to daft comments I do not know.

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OldRidgeback replied to Guyz2010 | 10 years ago
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Guyz2010 wrote:

Really don't see what can be so bad about a cycle track. People like this are exactly what is wrong with progression with public infrastructure in England. Why do the authorities even listen to daft comments I do not know.

True, but this is in Wales not England.

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Guyz2010 replied to OldRidgeback | 10 years ago
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OldRidgeback wrote:
Guyz2010 wrote:

Really don't see what can be so bad about a cycle track. People like this are exactly what is wrong with progression with public infrastructure in England. Why do the authorities even listen to daft comments I do not know.

True, but this is in Wales not England.

Oops! my error....gaaahh foregign country they can do what they like  3

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Leviathan replied to Guyz2010 | 10 years ago
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OldRidgeback wrote:

True, but this is in Wales not England.

Guyz2010 wrote:

Oops! my error....gaaahh foregign country they can do what they like  3

Well Welsh geography and English spelling don't seem to be your forte.

Wales is certainly not a 'foreign' country (and neither is Scotland, shut up Alex,) even if it is a different 'country.' Wales is a country, England is a country and the UK is a country. Or maybe Wales and England are Nations but the UK is a State.

confused? This might help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

If Wales is foreign you must have been really disappointed to see the like of AP McCoy, Leigh Halfpenny and foreigner Andy Murray winning the Sports Personality, especially beating Englishman Chris Froome. The less said about that marauder Geraint Thomas stealing our Olympic spots and winning our gold medals the better.

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Guyz2010 replied to Leviathan | 10 years ago
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bikeboy76 wrote:
OldRidgeback wrote:

True, but this is in Wales not England.

Guyz2010 wrote:

Oops! my error....gaaahh foregign country they can do what they like  3

Well Welsh geography and English spelling don't seem to be your forte.

Wales is certainly not a 'foreign' country (and neither is Scotland, shut up Alex,) even if it is a different 'country.' Wales is a country, England is a country and the UK is a country. Or maybe Wales and England are Nations but the UK is a State.

confused? This might help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10

If Wales is foreign you must have been really disappointed to see the like of AP McCoy, Leigh Halfpenny and foreigner Andy Murray winning the Sports Personality, especially beating Englishman Chris Froome. The less said about that marauder Geraint Thomas stealing our Olympic spots and winning our gold medals the better.

Think you need to chill out or did you never have a sense of humour!

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willythepimp | 10 years ago
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I like the pre victorian idea on cemetery's being a public space where you can enjoy parties and fetes and include your deceased loved ones in feast days community events ect. Life goes on and it was Victoria and the years she spent mourning that made the general public forget the celebration of life in favour of constant boo hooing for the dead.

Let 'em cycle and stop wingeing.

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Leviathan | 10 years ago
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Anti-cycling jerks are becoming increasingly perverse in their objections, or is it just the media reporting more nut jobs because cycling has become a hot topic.

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james-o | 10 years ago
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"concerns that cyclists would be passing as burial ceremonies were carried out."

What concern is that, that fluo jackets will clash with the black theme of the day?

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a.jumper replied to james-o | 10 years ago
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james-o wrote:

"concerns that cyclists would be passing as burial ceremonies were carried out."

What concern is that, that fluo jackets will clash with the black theme of the day?

Cool. I've a new justification for my black Rapha kit: I don't want to offend funerals that I pass.

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giff77 | 10 years ago
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Having read what Max_headset says and looking at google earth it does look like a good plan. The cemetery appears to be bordered by mature trees (legacy from the railway perchance?). So no chance of disturbance there. I do think the issue is that some of the residents of the estate backing onto the track bed are a bit miffed that they have been unable to purchase this land as their original gardens appear to have been built on with extensions and whatever.

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Velo-Chris replied to giff77 | 10 years ago
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giff77 wrote:

I do think the issue is that some of the residents of the estate backing onto the track bed are a bit miffed that they have been unable to purchase this land as their original gardens appear to have been built on with extensions and whatever.

I have a suspicion that you may be correct, a little short sighted if that is the case. Studies in the US have shown that property adjacent to regional cycle routes benefits from both an increase in value and desirability in the event of a sale. With the boom that our sport is going through over here these benefits could be significant.

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Argos74 | 10 years ago
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I read the whole report, failed to find the offending bit of path going past the cemetery, but was impressed by the overall plan. Just over a 100km away from me, so could be there in time for lunch with a reasonably early start. And be looking for B&Bs and places to buy cake.

It's a beautiful part of the world, and things like this would encourage me to visit and spend a few days and some money there.

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Max_headset | 10 years ago
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The strip of land is an old track bed of a disused railway is on land owned by the council which the residents have been trying to buy to extend gardens and has been deliberately left open not to become part of the cemetery. The railway was originally bought after Beeching closed it by the old Council to build a new relief road around Denbigh on it but in the end chose a greenfield route in the 70's. The new route would be a great asset to the area almost certainly increase cycling locally both for recreation as well as commute-lite as it will pass the High School which lies near by. These residents organised a similar hate campaign in the 90's which saw large bill boards of white elephants alongside the A525 and published letters from residents alongside cycle paths elsewhere in the UK that experienced video players and other items being stolen by passing thieves on bikes. The Daily Post hates cyclists anyway. Fight fire with fire and riders write the post to express support

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userfriendly | 10 years ago
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"It’s bad enough having a cycle path near our homes"

Err ... what?

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drfabulous0 replied to userfriendly | 10 years ago
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userfriendly wrote:

"It’s bad enough having a cycle path near our homes"

Err ... what?

That's what I was wondering, pity he didn't elaborate.

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wycombewheeler replied to drfabulous0 | 9 years ago
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edit double post removed

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wycombewheeler replied to drfabulous0 | 9 years ago
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drfabulous0 wrote:
userfriendly wrote:

"It’s bad enough having a cycle path near our homes"

Err ... what?

That's what I was wondering, pity he didn't elaborate.

Probably mis-heard and is concerned about psycopaths behind the houses.

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teaboy | 10 years ago
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I assume the residents of the graveyard have not objected, and that the ex-railway was built after the cemetery.

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