I wonder if anyone can help. I found an old Peugeot road bike frame that i would like to rebuild. However I have no idea where to start. It's just a frame, no forks, nothing. It looks lovely so If I can give it another live, i'd like to try. I understand French bike have slightly different sizes.

Does anyone know where I could look for parts online?

Many thanks for any help.



Gkam84 [9119 posts] 4 years ago

Do you have a model or any identifying marks or serial numbers?

What are we looking at, full restoration to original spec? (going to cost a decent budget)

OR, getting it up and running like you want it?

So you'll be needing

Groupset (6/7 speed)?
Downtube shifters

cpmirror [1 post] 4 years ago

I refurbished a Peugeot last year. They are a bit of a pain to get parts for because, as you say, they are differently sized to standard frames.

Most threaded parts are metric, but it does depend on the year.

Bottom brackets are usually French or Swiss. You can get new French threaded BBs but not Swiss - the solution there is to use a Velo Orange threadless BB, which I can recommend. Their stuff is generally really good actually.

Headset will quite likely be 24mm, rather than 1". Again, Velo Orange make one of those.

I found the really tricky bit to be the seatpost. These are often odd sizes - I just could not get a replacement. Luckily, the one I had was ok, and could be re-used.

It's possible to use modern bits on an old frame, although purists will frown upon it. Assuming it's steel, you can re-space the rear forks to take 130mm wide hubs (standard for modern wheels). I fitted 700c wheels rather than 27", which meant a surprising amount of mucking around to get the original brakes to work.

Velo Orange and Brick Lane Bikes make a lot of nice bits you can put onto an older bike that will look right.

jova54 [681 posts] 4 years ago

There is a good Facebook site called 'Cycles Peugeot' who are very friendly and are a mine of information.
I have details somewhere of an on-line Peugeot site that has specs and pictures of Peugeot bikes going back years that could help you identify what you have and also a site that does replica decals. Can't put my finger on them at the moment but PM me if you're interested and I'll try and sort them out this evening.

jimmylolly [2 posts] 4 years ago

Thanks for all the comments. Most helpful. When I get home this evening i'll take a photo and see if I can get the model etc.

I have spare standard wheels so if I can use them then all the better.

I'm basically looking to get it running, thats about it initially.

Thanks again!

nicdoye [33 posts] 4 years ago

I had an c. 1983 Peugot frame - I _think_ the seatpost is 24.2. A friend of my Dad had a lathe and milled (is that the right word?) a MIche one down for me.

Mine was their bog-standard "Carbolite 103" frameset in a beautiful "Pearl White". 12 speed and a funky built in cycle computer in the stem! I am still a sucker for gimmicks  3

Not sure if the bottom-bracket was English, Italian or something completely non-standard or not.

bashthebox [752 posts] 4 years ago

'Turned' is the word you're looking for there. Milled is a bit different - a milling machine can do all sorts of shapes, whereas a lathe just turns.
I wish I had a lathe.

Kapelmuur [413 posts] 4 years ago

The folk on Retrobike.co.uk are helpful for information, advice and sourcing of authentic parts.

jova54 [681 posts] 4 years ago

Had a quick look and found the following;
www.cyclespeugeot.com have sales catalogues going back to 1970s and before with pictures which should help you identify the frame.
www.hlloydcycles.com do replacement decals. You can download a pdf of their catalogue.
Hope this helps

BobD [2 posts] 2 years ago

Hi. I'm new here and need some advice on saving and reusing my old peugeot 103 bike from the late eighties. It's in pretty rough condition but my biggest concern in the frame size. If it's too small I will not spend the time and money to fix it up.

Using a sizing calculator on Competitive Cyclists it suggested the following sizes with the pug sizes in brackets:

Saddle to handlebar 54.8 -55.4 (44)
Effective Top Tube Length 58.3 - 58.7 (53)
Seat tube c-t 56.6 - 57.1 (64!)
Seat tube c-c 55-55.4 (55)

While the seat can be shifted a bit backwards it will not move 10cm.

What else can be done?

Is this bike for me?

Will try to upload a couple of pictures later.



Tjuice [252 posts] 2 years ago

Old Peugeot frames are wonderful. They make such long-lasting bikes. You see loads of them on the streets of London.

I have had 3 in the last few years. I converted all mine into fixed-gear bikes (albeit without hacking off any of the fittings, so they could be converted back to their original configuration), and they are really good.

I seem to recall that bottom bracket was no problem at all. All mine were English threaded 68mm. For the nicest of my conversions, I replaced the BB with a new 103mm length Tange Sealed Bottom Bracket from this page:
(About 2/3 of the way down the page).

Having said that, I think that at some point in the past, Peugeot did use French or Swiss threaded BBs, so you'll need to check yours. Local bike shop may help.

The seatpost is a funny one. If I recall correctly, they are slightly narrower than usual. I seem to recall buying one of these:
(or an earlier incarnation of it), which was slightly too narrow without the shims, and slightly too thick with the narrowest shim, so I made my own shim by cutting out a piece of beer can to wrap around the seatpost where it enters the tube (actually, it might have been some other fizzy drink, but that does not sound as cool as a beer can shim). Worked perfectly.

Not sure if you have any of the original headset fittings, but in my renovations, I did not notice the headset being any different to any other ~1980s headset (of which I had plenty of component parts in boxes in the loft), so you should have no problem there. And then I bought standard forks with 1" steerer on eBay. I bought a NOS chrome fork, and separately bought a second hand fork - the only think you have to watch out for is getting one with a steerer tube that is long enough (and deciding whether you want one with mudguard eyelets or not).

As others have said, you could do a full-fat renovation and make it glorious (but it will cost a fair bit because you will want to make it nice), or you could do the 'lite' renovation where you just cobble together old and second hand parts (I have taken both these routes). Either way, provided you take some care and attention, you will get a bike that rides very well.

BobD [2 posts] 2 years ago

and the frame size? For my 5'11" 3/4 it feels too small.

Tjuice [252 posts] 2 years ago

Sorry, my bad. I was commenting on the whole thread, not noticing that the original post was 2 years old!

Re: fit. I am not qualified to provide an assessment, but at first glance, it looks like:
a) the saddle is too low
b) the reach is too short - if I draw a straight line from your eyes through the handlebar, that line passes way behind the front wheel hub

So, perhaps a bit too small, but probably not unrideable, depending what you want to use it for. I rode for years on something smaller than that, and I'm 6'

Raising saddle, and a slightly longer stem may work.

BUT - standard caveat - a professional bike fit will be able to tell you this stuff much better than a group of strangers on the internet.