Tour of Poland stage 2

by simon F   July 28, 2013  

Well, I forgot the early deadline so no changes for me but since I had no idea what to change, that's probably no bad thing - decision made for me.

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Ulissi (Nibali)
Henao
Majka
Konig
Tunarrosa
LL Sanchez
Anconna
Capecchi(Wisniowski)
Marycz

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posted by livestrongnick [1669 posts]
28th July 2013 - 13:43

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Can someone tell me what the 'Attractivity competition' is? is it just like the combination classification in the Vuelta but awarded day by day, or is it different in some way?

posted by djb123 [84 posts]
28th July 2013 - 14:59

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Its based on points scored at sprint and mountain points. Its the UCIs attempt to try and take the subjectivity out of the combativity prize.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
28th July 2013 - 15:27

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Yea missed deadline too. Will need to read up tonight to see what's been going on

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posted by backflipbedlem [634 posts]
28th July 2013 - 15:32

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Scores will be done soon.

There will be NO scoring for the "Attractivity" classification.

Also, the points competition in this race, is purely for the first 20 across the line.

So it will be the sprint points that will count as they are separate, similar to other races this season.

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posted by Gkam84 [8645 posts]
28th July 2013 - 17:46

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The first few riders in a breakaway score fantasy points at the intermediate sprints. The first few riders at the finish score fantasy points. In both cases, the top rider is awarded a jersey. There is some ambiguity therefore as to which jersey will receive extra fantasy points for the competition. The scoring notes for this race explicitly stated which jersey would used for scoring these fantasy points, thus removing the ambiguity. I do not understand why you consider that your opinion as to which jersey should be used overrides that choice.

I realise that you have volunteered your services to help run this race within the game and that this is no trivial task but I don't see that this authorises you to arbitrarily change the predefined rules of the game. I would like to see some arbitration by the owners/creators of the game.

posted by simon F [978 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:05

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Just a point on the sprint v points debate, the so called rules that have been quoted and are generalised rules, rather than necessarily race specific, due to the fact that until the race starts we do not know exactly how they will score the sprints (as you can see from the poor info coming from poland).

Where the race scores points and sprints as the same competition, then the points are always used, however as is the case for many smaller races the points and sprints are separate, and in other races so far when that is the case, the sprints have been scored for overall and not points.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:06

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I don't think that ...

Points jersey points based on the white jersey classification, not the red jersey (intermediate sprint points)

is particularly generic when it even specifies the (race-specific) jersey colours.

I agree that in other races, this has not been explicitly stated and the opposite decision has been made by some race managers. There is nothing wrong with that but when it is clearly stated, I think this should be adhered to.

posted by simon F [978 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:10

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Out of interest, seeing as tomorrow is a rest day shouldn't we get 4 transfers rather than the standard two?

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:37

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simon F wrote:
I don't think that ...

Points jersey points based on the white jersey classification, not the red jersey (intermediate sprint points)

is particularly generic when it even specifies the (race-specific) jersey colours.

I agree that in other races, this has not been explicitly stated and the opposite decision has been made by some race managers. There is nothing wrong with that but when it is clearly stated, I think this should be adhered to.

Apologies, the last one I saw was generic, must have been on the wrong competition

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:40

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drheaton wrote:
Out of interest, seeing as tomorrow is a rest day shouldn't we get 4 transfers rather than the standard two?

Yes good point Dr H Thinking

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posted by livestrongnick [1669 posts]
28th July 2013 - 18:44

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Rest days in the grand tours carry 4 transfers because they are after a week or more of racing. After two days in a small race of 7 stages, does not normally have a rest day, this has been put in this year to facilitate the transfer back to Poland.

There is no need for extra transfers to be given as the terrain is not going to change, like it does in grand tours, from mountains to flats after rest days.

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posted by Gkam84 [8645 posts]
28th July 2013 - 19:30

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