Tour De France - Stage 10

by backflipbedlem   July 8, 2013  

So first set of mountains are behind us, and boy were they fun!
Now for a few more flats and an ITT

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Wig_Billy wrote:
drheaton wrote:
Like I said, all in on the sprint, 6 changes (20 penalty points) so I have

Sagan
Cavendish
Greipel
Kittel
D Van Poppel
El Fares
Mederel
Fischer
Gutierrez (DNS)

Given my lowly overall position I think I'll be throwing a few penalty transfers at my team in order to maximise points each day and hope that keeps me ahead of people sticking to two transfers a day.

I'm in a very similar position to you and I have a very similar team (just swap Fischer for Bono), but my strategy is very different. I'm going to bank transfers until stage 14 or 15 or 16 (I haven't decided which yet Thinking), then have some fun trying to get a stage win in the final week.

I considered that but thought it'd be more fun just to ignore the penalty numbers and put whatever team I want together. Banking transfers then taking a risk and getting it wrong wouldn't be fun Sad

Plan is to probably drop 4/5 tonight for TTers then same again for sprinters after tomorrow. Then see what the terrain brings. I am tempted to ignore the TT entirely and save 4 transfers by keeping my team the same for Thursday but I'm still harbouring hope of a solid overall position (not that I can do much from 230th).

In the end I might plump for a middle ground and just make one or two changes tonight.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 14:11

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I was away at the w/e and ended up not logging in at all- thus making no transfers between 8 and 9, and getting 28th place! I'm sure I would have done worse had I fiddled, so I'm delighted with the result and the extra 2 transfers. ive made 4 for today + carrying 2 over, giving me:

cav
greipel
kittel
DVP
Mollema
4 fillers

hoping for my first 1-2-3 of the tour....

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posted by johnny2names [176 posts]
9th July 2013 - 14:20

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Had a think and done a little bit of 'back of the envelope' maths and I reckon it's better (overall) to make transfers tonight rather than bank them over the TT.

If I keep Cav for tomorrow he'll score max 8-10 points (3-5 for points jersey plus 5 for Tony Martin if he wins), add two transfers to that (10 points each as that's the cost of making those as penalties assuming I don't save them) gives me a max cost of 30 points. If I swap him for Tony Martin then that's probably a net 5 point gain. If I swap him for Froome that's potentially higher as I get more jersey points.

If I apply this to Greipel (3-5 points for jerseys plus 20 in transfers) it's actually more beneficial as there's be no team bonus. Same applies to Sagan.

So I think I'll drop Greipel/Sagan tonight for Martin/Froome or some other combo and probably still come out 20-30 points up (at best). It's risky though, if Martin tanks or Froome doesn't top 5 I'm down on points and transfers.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 14:33

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So, hands up anyone else who's already been foiled in their attempts to line up with three OPQ riders tomorrow?

posted by chokofingrz [194 posts]
9th July 2013 - 15:00

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chokofingrz wrote:
So, hands up anyone else who's already been foiled in their attempts to line up with three OPQ riders tomorrow?

It crossed my mind Smile

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posted by johnny2names [176 posts]
9th July 2013 - 15:19

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1. Mate (COF) 15pts
2. Westra (VCD) 14pts
3. Simon (SOJ) 13pts
4. Cousin (EUC) 12pts
5. Oroz (EUS) 11pts
6. Greipel (LTB) 10pts - at 2'25"
7. Sagan (CAN) 9pts
8. Cavendish (OPQ) 8pts
9. Flecha (VCD) 7pts
10. Rojas (MOV) 6pts
11. Sabatini (CAN) 5pts
12. Bodnar (CAN) 4pts
13. De Gendt (VCD) 3pts
14. Chavanel (OPQ) 2pts
15. Stannard (SKY) 1pt

I considered Simon as a wildcard for the finish, that won't happen know but he's probably scored more points at the intermediate sprint than he'd have managed at the finish anyway!

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 15:26

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Well I picked the wrong Sojasun guys, no surprise there.

I have got Cousin in my purists, though, a decision made doubly fortuitous by the fact that he's sporting such a stylish moustache. Is there anyone else in the peloton similarly adorned? (No, Peter, that doesn't count.)

Noli porcum linguere

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posted by captain_slog [252 posts]
9th July 2013 - 15:55

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Gone

Sagan
Cav
Greipel
Lobato
D van Poppel

still have one transfer in hand. I think there are more points available today than tomorrow so brought in Sagan for Froome. Needs to come 5th or above to make a profit. Will make 2/3 transfers for the ITT; 2 expensive maybe 1 cheap.

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:36

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captain_slog wrote:
Well I picked the wrong Sojasun guys, no surprise there.

I have got Cousin in my purists, though, a decision made doubly fortuitous by the fact that he's sporting such a stylish moustache. Is there anyone else in the peloton similarly adorned? (No, Peter, that doesn't count.)

Good news for your purists, Cousin gets most combative.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:46

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2,3,4,9

Lobato got held up by the crash. Maybe need Kittel next time as well. Have to free up some points.

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:56

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The top five of the 10th stage is:

1. Marcel Kittel (GER) ARG
2. André Greipel (GER) LTB
3. Mark Cavendish (GBR) OPQ
4. Peter Sagan (SLO) CAN
5. William Bonnet (FRA) FDJ
6. Kristoff
7. Dumoulin (S)
8. Reza
9. Van Poppel (D)
10. Rojas
11. Goss
12. Henderson
13. Gene
14. Lemoine
15. Flecha
16. El Fares
17. Ferrari
18. Garcia
19. Dumoulin (T)
20. Jeannesson

Bugger, tried to force Bonnet into my team this morning but couldn't afford him without dropping Van Poppel and thought DVP would score higher.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:56

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drheaton wrote:
The top five of the 10th stage is:

1. Marcel Kittel (GER) ARG
2. André Greipel (GER) LTB
3. Mark Cavendish (GBR) OPQ
4. Peter Sagan (SLO) CAN
5. William Bonnet (FRA) FDJ
6. Kristoff
7. Dumoulin (S)
8. Reza
9. Van Poppel (D)
10. Rojas
11. Goss
12. Henderson
13. Gene
14. Lemoine
15. Flecha
16. El Fares
17. Ferrari
18. Garcia
19. Dumoulin (T)
20. Jeannesson

Bugger, tried to force Bonnet into my team this morning but couldn't afford him without dropping Van Poppel and thought DVP would score higher.

It's the first points he's scored for a long time. Might be worth thinking about now with Bouhanni out.

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:58

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Good news for your purists, Cousin gets most combative

Yay! It was the tache wot won it.

Noli porcum linguere

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posted by captain_slog [252 posts]
9th July 2013 - 16:58

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Alan Tullett wrote:
It's the first points he's scored for a long time. Might be worth thinking about now with Bouhanni out.

That's exactly why I'd thought of him, he should be FDJs sprinter for the rest of the race now they've lost Bouhanni, there's no one else as good left in the team.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:00

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1, 2, 3 hopefully. Don't think the crash was cavs fault though

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posted by backflipbedlem [556 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:00

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No, I hope he's not eliminated but both riders changed their line a fraction. Just an accident.

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:06

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Should have green arrows today as 2,3,4 have IM and table points which 1 doesn't. Hoping D van Poppel would get some IM points but Flecha has almost as many points as he does. Why?

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:12

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Got 1,2,3,6,16 (minus 20 point penalty).

Nearly picked Bonnet yesterday but thought I'd save myself the points. Also should've gone Van Poppel over Lobato (though bit of 'unluck' there). Now, whether to skim over tomorrow with the aim of more flat points the day after?

Brilliantly I'm off work for the rest of the week and have wife's permission to watch EVERYTHING! Providing she doesn't give birth, that is, as she's due in a week (and no, son number one will NOT be named after that day's stage winner).

Big Grin

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posted by Ghedebrav [803 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:16

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I make my total 150 (170 less 20 penalty points) so I'm pretty happy.

Will make a change or two tonight to bring in the main TTers then swap back for Thursday. Tempted to save transfers and have 10 for Ventoux on Sunday but that'd just annoy enrique Devil

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:20

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I just heard Mark Cavendish talking about "Veelers' Wheel" in his post-race interview... is that a shoutout to Wig_Billy's fantasy team?!!

posted by chokofingrz [194 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:20

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I think Tuft is last man so i should have 181 Big Grin

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1404 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:23

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livestrongnick wrote:
I think Tuft is last man so i should have 181 Big Grin

Dammit I could've brought Tuft in a day early too but thought it wise to keep a transfer just in case someone dropped out...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1355 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:32

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Well, I've gone and made another two penalty transfers for tomorrow. I'm following a good feeling I've got about a couple of riders (and not Froome or T. Martin, before you ask).

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posted by Ghedebrav [803 posts]
9th July 2013 - 17:34

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oops bad maths on my part 161 not 181, although 181 was stage win.

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1404 posts]
9th July 2013 - 18:39

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chrisdstripes wrote:
livestrongnick wrote:
I think Tuft is last man so i should have 181 Big Grin

Dammit I could've brought Tuft in a day early too but thought it wise to keep a transfer just in case someone dropped out...

Saving himself, eh! Was in my provisional team and now probably going in. One way to get rid of my dead rider and there's another cheapie I can bring in to replace him. El Fares even scored 5 points! Maybe he'll get some more. I don't like dead wood in my teams. Has anyone had a full house yet?

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 19:31

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Alan Tullett wrote:
chrisdstripes wrote:
livestrongnick wrote:
I think Tuft is last man so i should have 181 Big Grin

Dammit I could've brought Tuft in a day early too but thought it wise to keep a transfer just in case someone dropped out...

Saving himself, eh! Was in my provisional team and now probably going in. One way to get rid of my dead rider and there's another cheapie I can bring in to replace him. El Fares even scored 5 points! Maybe he'll get some more. I don't like dead wood in my teams. Has anyone had a full house yet?

He crashed with 15ish km to go and rolled in over 8mins down! hope he's ok for tomorrow Thinking

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1404 posts]
9th July 2013 - 19:36

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He crashed with 15ish km to go and rolled in over 8mins down! hope he's ok for tomorrow

was it not a mechanical?

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7036 posts]
9th July 2013 - 20:52

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I was watching most of the last 30 and I didn't see anything though I did have the sound muted for a while. Well, it's done now. His points allow me to get a better sprint team than if I go with Castroviejo and don't want to sub him out straight away to save transfers. Not sure I'm going to risk a pen for Bonnet. Prefer to save transfers than go for really risky ones. Lobato got nothing today but that was partly Cav's fault but he's got 2/3 more throws of the dice.

posted by Alan Tullett [1293 posts]
9th July 2013 - 22:01

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Shocking for my team is the simple answer, nevermind aye

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3504 posts]
9th July 2013 - 22:48

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Gkam84 wrote:
I am purely stage hunting now, well out of the overall...

I have to hand it to you... That was a very classy way to drop out contention of the 'Rookie' league... I doubted you but now I realize you are a kinder, more sensitive human being than I thought! Kudos to you for showing such sportsmanship! Wink

Vive Le Road.cc Fantasy Cycling Game!

posted by enrique [1105 posts]
10th July 2013 - 2:46

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