Tour de France - Stage 9

by backflipbedlem   July 6, 2013  

Right high mountains! Missed the deadline this morning, don't want to make the same mistake twice so doing my team now.
Worth getting froome in for tomorrow?
With a flat then itt stage after bit worried about bringing in too many climbers!
Anyways discuss! !

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swapped moreno with porte Crying Crying

posted by rcorbin [213 posts]
7th July 2013 - 15:52

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Well, it's not going to be a Sky fest. Pretty open tour with Froome still having a decent advantage but 2 or 3 tough stages to some. If they gang up on him big time could be like the Vuelta.

posted by Alan Tullett [1457 posts]
7th July 2013 - 16:06

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Over the two stages I got the basics right. This tour is between Froome and Valverde. Rolland will probably get the polka dots and Nieve is the only cheap climber worth having. It won't translate into a massive fantasy gain but at least I'm reading the race ok.

posted by Alan Tullett [1457 posts]
7th July 2013 - 16:10

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Movistar are in a great position now. Quintana can attack and Sky have to chase but Valverde is more of an overall threat. That being said, it'll be interesting to see what happens if Quintana (a half decent TTer) puts an chunk of time into Valverde on either TT.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
7th July 2013 - 16:14

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drheaton wrote:
Movistar are in a great position now. Quintana can attack and Sky have to chase but Valverde is more of an overall threat. That being said, it'll be interesting to see what happens if Quintana (a half decent TTer) puts an chunk of time into Valverde on either TT.

Valverde used to be half-decent on TTs. He lost 30 secs to Froome on the Vuelta TT but that was up and down. Froome will gain between a minute and a minute and a half on the first one. Maybe 30 secs to a minute on the second one, assuming he's not been roughed up too much. Will Contador attack on a rolling stage like 14 or will Cannondale dictate that one? It's certainly not over but I would say that Froome can look after himself up to a point.

posted by Alan Tullett [1457 posts]
7th July 2013 - 17:00

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Gkam84 wrote:
After today's stage, I couldn't care about the game anymore. Its going to be a Sky bore fest again.... Sat on the front, dictating the pace for ever climb

Thank you GKam84 for saying what I was thinking and getting it completely wrong! lol!

What a fascinating Tour it is going to be!

Thinking Thinking

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
7th July 2013 - 17:39

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Alan Tullett wrote:
Over the two stages I got the basics right. This tour is between Froome and Valverde. Rolland will probably get the polka dots and Nieve is the only cheap climber worth having. It won't translate into a massive fantasy gain but at least I'm reading the race ok.

Fuglsang and Mollema can TT and are a real possibility for the podium and just perhaps more. Porte can cover Quintana for stage wins. Contador, Schleck, Rodriguez and the BMC guys can all have a go when they see opportunity. I see an enthralling tour shaping up, even if Froome does win, I still believe there is plenty to play for. Or maybe cycling in the sun softens my head! Or maybe it's the beers! and look out for De Ghent, Volckler, and Kruzinger too.

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
7th July 2013 - 17:48

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Took out Dan Martin

[sad face]

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7437 posts]
7th July 2013 - 18:12

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Mollema definitely in there. A crash or bad day can change anything. He's in my roaduk team and as he's cheap I'll keep him in there. Thanks for reminding me that he can TT a bit.

I think Fulgsang will lose too much time in the high mountains but could be top 10. His team are dropping like flies though; 3 out already. What's Mont Ventoux going to do to the peloton if it's hot? Not much shade up there.

posted by Alan Tullett [1457 posts]
7th July 2013 - 18:20

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
Took out Dan Martin

[sad face]

Same at least I replaced him with Rolland, I also took Navarro out for Nieve, bad choice and I now have 2 greyed out riders, but they are gonna have to stay in for now at least

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
7th July 2013 - 18:31

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Hows kennaugh after his trip off the side of the mountain?

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posted by backflipbedlem [815 posts]
7th July 2013 - 19:49

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sky still doping today? just askin' Devil

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7437 posts]
7th July 2013 - 20:21

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
sky still doping today? just askin' Devil

Nah, it's Movistar's turn today Wink

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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posted by stumps [2809 posts]
7th July 2013 - 21:05

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Dave Atkinson wrote:
Took out Dan Martin

[sad face]

Same at least I replaced him with Rolland, I also took Navarro out for Nieve, bad choice and I now have 2 greyed out riders, but they are gonna have to stay in for now at least


Took out Dan Martin - replaced him with Potre...

Sums up my fantasy TdF '13. Sad

posted by JohnnyRemo [88 posts]
8th July 2013 - 7:54

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No disasters for me, but the 2 I brought in scored about the same as the 2 I dropped, so could've saved a couple of transfers. Still, 7 consecutive days of green arrows puts me up to 52nd overall - considering I was outside the top 200 in the Giro thats a considerable improvement...

Stuck now - keep Froome for the TT or sub him out and back in again?

Anyhow - as I learnt to my cost last year, rest days are primetime for doping eliminations, so I won't be doing anything til tomorrow morning...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
8th July 2013 - 8:09

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if i'd have kept martin and save the transfer i'd have been top ten with 5 free changes. c'est la vie Plain Face

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7437 posts]
8th July 2013 - 8:43

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Gkam84 wrote:
After today's stage, I couldn't care about the game anymore. Its going to be a Sky borefest again.... Sat on the front, dictating the pace for every climb

Actuallty, I felt the same way before the stage today...And what a nice surprise it was to be so wrong! Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 8:50

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bogdogs wrote:
If the teams want to beat Sky, they have to throw the race book out the window and attack, attack, attack. It was easy for Sky to control one mountain stage, big deal. Let's see them do it with half the Peloton working against them. This is far from over.

The question is - Will enough GC contenders have the guts to challenge?

And the answer was, to our delight, a resounding yes! Great race! Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:05

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Jonas Lorenzen wrote:
Wonder if Kwiatowski love[s] that white jersey so much he'll skip the rest day and just go straight on to stage 10...

Heh heh! Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:06

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JAndrewHill wrote:
I am supporting my router...

Ha ha ha! Big Grin Good one!

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:08

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chrisdstripes wrote:
No disasters for me, but the 2 I brought in scored about the same as the 2 I dropped, so could've saved a couple of transfers. Still, 7 consecutive days of green arrows puts me up to 52nd overall - considering I was outside the top 200 in the Giro thats a considerable improvement...

Stuck now - keep Froome for the TT or sub him out and back in again?

Anyhow - as I learnt to my cost last year, rest days are primetime for doping eliminations, so I won't be doing anything til tomorrow morning...

If you want Sagan/Cav/Greipel for the sprints you'll have to do the 'Hokey-Cokey' with Froome methinks(in-out-shake it all about!!).

This was the stage that Frank Shrek got caught last season so I might hold fire too......6 transfers so 4 sprinters in then 4 TT'ers the day after trying to leave as many of the sprinters in for the 2 sprint days after(if that makes sense).

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:18

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thefatcyclist wrote:
This is why I do not like Froome...

You're back! Big Grin what a nice surprise! Why wasn't there an announcement? Wink

I mean you broke some hearts when you "left"! Wink

Gkam84 wrote:
Oh but fatty......You cant just leave the game.... Crying

TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Will be sad to see you leave...

Glad you're back! Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:26

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drheaton wrote:
Movistar are in a great position now. Quintana can attack and Sky have to chase but Valverde is more of an overall threat...

Alan Tullett wrote:
Valverde used to be half-decent on TTs. He lost 30 secs to Froome on the Vuelta TT... Froome will gain between a minute and a minute and a half on the first one. Maybe 30 secs to a minute on the second one...

Thanks for the perspective, people!...

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:32

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enrique wrote:
thefatcyclist wrote:
This is why I do not like Froome...

You're back! Big Grin what a nice surprise! Why wasn't there an announcement? Wink

I mean you broke some hearts when you "left"! Wink

Gkam84 wrote:
Oh but fatty......You cant just leave the game.... Crying

TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Will be sad to see you leave...

Glad you're back! Big Grin

Ha ha, I wondered when anybody would notice, certainly not from my woeful team display, guess i'm race rusty.

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
8th July 2013 - 16:38

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thefatcyclist wrote:
This is why I do not like Froome... this stage has breakaway written all over it, Sky should be on the front controlling the race, Froome has blasted his team out the water, idiot. Control the race FFS.

Well, glad you're back! You've been missed! Smile Anyways, I feel stupid asking you, but what you wrote early in the race got my attention. So, not to put you on the spot, but, what did you mean above? That Froome should not have gone with Valverde and company immediately and should have let his team pull them back at their won pace?... And for the ignorant, what's FFS?

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 17:34

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FFS cannot be said in its actual form on here

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
8th July 2013 - 19:44

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
FFS cannot be said in its actual form on here

I had to look it up. I guess it's related to 'For Goodness's Sake', right? Is that used over there?

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
8th July 2013 - 21:48

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mmmm, I have not quoted here, but my Froome comment. I think what I meant was that it should never have happened in the first place, and that sky should have been a leading train from the start, like the Super Compex boys used to do. But this was said without having watched what had transpired before, and I hadn't seen the Sky devistation just prior. I guess he had no choice to go with Valverde. I do think he is tactic naive, but Brailsford isn't, I suppose they knew what might happen but didn't know the weakness in the team. I assumed Froome was calling the shots badly, so probably a call made by me in the heat of the moment, and fuelled By the Eurosport commentators.

BTW it is not the proper place for this, but I am adrenaline fuelled, because I got hit head on by a drunk driver tonight,at 8pm while cycling to shops.He completely cut the corner at a junction. Police involved, can of Budweiser in the drinks holder. I am ok I think, the closing distance was 15-20 MPH. I had no where to go, and all I could think of in the slow motion phase was "how bad is this going to hurt." He left the scene of the accident on foot after witnesses pulled him out of the car as he tried to drive away. I have some hurts, road rash, no head contact, but how I got out of the situation I just don't know. I made sure in the short time I had that the contact was going to be dead head on. He didn't break after he hit and was pushing me up the road, I managed to shiimy round then he hit me a glancing blow to the hip. Bike ended up somersaulting 180 degrees as I hit the deck. The Specialised is surprisingly lightly damaged. Twist to the rear mech , but the wheels still in dead alignmet.
Sorry for the war and peace, and any spelling errors.

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
8th July 2013 - 22:41

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Oh I forgot, decided to stay true to the purist ideal with my team what will be will be. only 6 riders left, and Taaramie next I venture.

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
8th July 2013 - 22:44

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Bloody hell, i'm glad you walked away from that, let's hope the witnesses can identify him if he can be traced.

posted by northstar [1107 posts]
8th July 2013 - 23:32

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