Sky TDF Team - looks poor!

by millskid   July 3, 2013  

After watching stage 2, I noticed that all but 3 of the sky riders got dropped on the cat 2 climb 12 k from the finish. In fact, only Froome and Porte, made it over the top with the bunch, EBH managed to get back on the way down. Surely this does not look good for the high muntain passes and summit finishes. If Froome is going to win it, he wont have much help.

It looks like SKY used the main guys helping wiggins, and froome will pay the price in my opinion. Well he will have to win it the hard way.

this would have been my team, would have had wiggo but he is injured.

Chris Froome
David López
Sergio Henao
Rigoberto Urán
Richie Porte
Vasil Kiryienka
Bernhard Eisel
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Dario Cataldo

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They do need a bit of balance - your team puts all their top guys in, so who's fresh to lead them in the Vuelta? I think Froome will be happy with guys like Kiryienka and Siutsou, who certainly won't be getting dropped on cat 2s this time next week.
Take your point though, they weren't looking great on Sunday - but we don't know how many of them were carrying knocks from Saturday's crash, and they all looked pretty strong yesterday.
If only Porte and Froome from Sky get over the HC climb on Saturday in the lead group, then I'll start to worry a bit - the Spaniards will be looking to gang up on Sky for sure!

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posted by chrisdstripes [1525 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 18:15

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If Sky knew Froome was feeling good and had Porte for company just in case, then why should they expend energy with 17 more stages to ride? I didn't see Saxo or BMC lining up on the front in numbers either. It struck me as more of a 'classics' stage where numerical advantage is less important on short climbs like that one. Starting position is far more important and Froome rode well.

There's possibly a bit of bluffing going on with Sky too, they don't have to defend the yellow jersey for 2.5 weeks this time.

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posted by arrieredupeleton [536 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 18:17

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To the OP. I think that you are also neglecting the fact that because Froome is a climber the team don't need to ride the same way that they had to last year with Wiggo. Who is not a climber.

posted by scaramanga [34 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 18:20

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"this would have been my team, would have had wiggo but he is injured"

Interesting though that Sky confirmed he wouldn't be selected nearly 4 weeks before the race, while Garmin left it till a couple of days before to see if Hesjedal was fit.

Of course, Sky thereby missed out on what would have been 4 weeks (plus another 3 in France) of the Wiggo vs Froome soap opera...

Thinking

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posted by Simon_MacMichael [7843 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 18:28

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That's exactly what I'd expect at this point - one man with Froome to keep him out of trouble whilst Orica Greenedge feel obliged to run the peloton in the yellow jersey. The rest of the team can save their legs for the mountain stages - pretty sure it's intentional!

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posted by StuayEd [63 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 19:03

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For me I'd have left out (sorry in advance) G, Kennaugh and EBH. In would go Bernie, Matt Hayman and Knees.

I feel bad about saying G but he is known for crashing!

posted by Super Domestique [1583 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 20:13

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they don't need eight riders to look after froome on an easy cat 3 on a nothing stage for the GC. they're just having a day off, and they sent EBH up the road to have a go at the win

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7234 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 20:34

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More doom and gloom from people because Sky haven't won every stage so far !

The team is there for the mountains not the gentle slopes and the team were quite happy to tootle along and let the also rans have their day in the sun.

Mark my words once the race hits the big slopes we will see a much different team.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2642 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 20:54

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stumps wrote:

Mark my words once the race hits the big slopes we will see a much different team.

Completely agree. But it's nice picking a team in your head.

posted by Super Domestique [1583 posts]
3rd July 2013 - 20:56

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well after the first big GC stage, I thought I would post a update. The team faired better than I thought. Thoughts on a couple of riders.

1. Peter Kennaugh. Took me by surprise, he did a super turn, especially on the downhill section.

2. Vasil Kiryienka. Did a massive turn, up to his usual high standards.

3. David López. What happened to him? normally solid in the mountains.

overall the team was better than I thought. If Henao and Uran were in the team, I think sky could have put even more time into the rivals. If Uran were there, final standings could have been a sky 1,2,3.

Not a bad day.

posted by millskid [34 posts]
6th July 2013 - 23:21

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ow dear sky had a shocker, and had Vasil Kiryienka eliminated. Thomas is still injured, looks froome will have to do it the hard way,

posted by millskid [34 posts]
7th July 2013 - 22:14

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millskid wrote:
ow dear sky had a shocker, and had Vasil Kiryienka eliminated. Thomas is still injured, looks froome will have to do it the hard way,

that is *really* bad news for sky. they're not really known for having a plan b, either. hope G's on the mend cause they're going to need him

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7234 posts]
7th July 2013 - 22:31

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Super Domestique wrote:
stumps wrote:

Mark my words once the race hits the big slopes we will see a much different team.

hmmm not so sure now!

posted by millskid [34 posts]
7th July 2013 - 22:45

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Looks like this thread will run and run. But at least they have a few days off to recover, in which time hopefully Froome can stretch his advantage on the ITT. Even Mont Ventoux is a one off, but the last week could be a week of hell. Epic.

Between the S and the LOW

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posted by bikeboy76 [1161 posts]
7th July 2013 - 23:11

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Well to open a can of worms (given the inevitable talk about doping) yesterday's performance by the team, or lack of performance to be exact, does at least ring true with a team riding clean to me.

On another note, it also highlights that the team is a 'bit light on experience' imho too. The rest day couldn't have come soon enough but with Kiryienka gone I have a feeling we might see some teaming up to beat Froome, as per last years Vuelta) again soon!

posted by Super Domestique [1583 posts]
8th July 2013 - 8:18

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Super Domestique wrote:
Well to open a can of worms (given the inevitable talk about doping) yesterday's performance by the team, or lack of performance to be exact, does at least ring true with a team riding clean to me.

On another note, it also highlights that the team is a 'bit light on experience' imho too. The rest day couldn't have come soon enough but with Kiryienka gone I have a feeling we might see some teaming up to beat Froome, as per last years Vuelta) again soon!

I agree, with the rest day, then tt and flat stages lets hope they can regroup and get a second wind. EBH might have to put any stage aspirations to bed for now and just keep his powder dry for the inevitable attacks from Movistar. Kiriyenka will be a massive miss though, no denying that and some just sitting in the pack is required now.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2642 posts]
8th July 2013 - 9:11

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Contador won the TdF without a team to help him, I'm sure Froome can do the same, but I fancy a Spanish alliance to try and hurt him

posted by MikeOC [3 posts]
8th July 2013 - 15:32

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MikeOC wrote:
Contador won the TdF without a team to help him, I'm sure Froome can do the same, but I fancy a Spanish alliance to try and hurt him

yeah that is true, but Contador also had some special Spanish steaks to help him through the difficult stages!

posted by millskid [34 posts]
8th July 2013 - 20:46

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maybe Froome can ask Contador for the name of his supplier.

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8th July 2013 - 20:47

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