Tour De France stage 4 Nice > Nice TTT

by stumps   July 2, 2013  

Right, i've checked and no ne has started a thread yet so he goes.

TTT day today, a new man in yellow but who.

My bet is on either Kwiatkowski, Valverde or EBH. I think these will be the top 3 teams and they are the lead riders for each team.

As for the fantasy game it's a lot more points at stake than normal so lets hope everyone read their emails about the points ?

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OPQS in first. Garmin looking strong but still 4 secs behind OPQS at halfway.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1113 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:01

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Ghedebrav wrote:
Garmin today, I reckon.

Garmin in 4th with 12 teams yet to finish including BMC and Movistar. Never listen to me.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1113 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:24

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Current finishers:
1. OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP in 25' 57''
2. SKY PROCYCLING in 25' 59'' at 00' 02''
3. LOTTO-BELISOL in 26' 13'' at 00' 16''
4. GARMIN - SHARP in 26' 13'' at 00' 16''
5. KATUSHA TEAM in 26' 24'' at 00' 27''
6. CANNONDALE in 26' 30'' at 00' 33''
7. BELKIN PRO CYCLING in 26' 33'' at 00' 36''
8. FDJ.FR in 26' 38'' at 00' 41''
9. ASTANA PRO TEAM in 26' 52'' at 00' 55''
10. SOJASUN in 27' 06'' at 01' 09''

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:34

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And now Stinkoff are in 2nd at the halfway! Bah.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1113 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:35

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Damn it who invited saxo to the party!? Surprise

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1866 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:38

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OPQ
SKY
SAX
LOT
GRM
MOV
KAT
CAN

MOV not done as well as I hoped but they are two cheap guys I had in from the start so I didn't waste any transfers. So-so score for me I think. Probably drop a little but got a decent team for the next couple of days and should save 1 or 2 transfers for 8.

posted by Alan Tullett [1478 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:43

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Aw shucks. My transfer was Gerrans > Millar, and OGE have just set the fastest time. Meaning around 30 points for Simon.

posted by chokofingrz [335 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:52

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I thought of transferring Gavazzi for Gerrans with a pen but didn't do it but as I want Gavazzi for 5 and 7 it's not so bad. Not having Gerrans for 2 days has cost me quite a bit now.

Never that great at TTTs. Thank god the mountains are coming up.

posted by Alan Tullett [1478 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:55

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Rip rip rip, I'm figuratively tearing up my Fantasy team sheet, throwing it on the floor and stamping on it.

Only have two transfers so I'm basically going to have a rubbish day tomorrow as well. Pfft.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1113 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 14:58

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oops, i am getting too nationalistic. its always a mistake.
i am just regretting swapping gerrans for millar.
oops.

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posted by JAndrewHill [1250 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:00

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If it stays as it is then I make my score 133. Not too unhappy although dissappointed with Movistar.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:01

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Worked out well for me but not in the way I expected - 1,1,2,6,9,10. If Albasini was in Orica's lead group, then I make GC Gerrans, Impey, Albasini, Kwiatkowski, Chavanel.

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posted by chrisdstripes [1649 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:05

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Worked out well for me but not in the way I expected - 1,1,2,6,9,10. If Albasini was in Orica's lead group, then I make GC Gerrans, Impey, Albasini, Kwiatkowski, Chavanel.

http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/classifications.html

Results show Albasini in 3rd GC so he must have been in the front group.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:09

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drheaton wrote:
chrisdstripes wrote:
Worked out well for me but not in the way I expected - 1,1,2,6,9,10. If Albasini was in Orica's lead group, then I make GC Gerrans, Impey, Albasini, Kwiatkowski, Chavanel.

http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/classifications.html

Results show Albasini in 3rd GC so he must have been in the front group.


Great! Thought I'd had a bad day but Gerrans and Albasini saved it.
My "plan" took me up to today - so not a clue what to do next... Some places saying tomorrow could be a sprint, but doesn't look like it to me...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1649 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:12

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This will alter tactics from now on, I think. Until we hit the Pyrenees, OGE will be relentless protecting Gerrans' yellow and working hard to close down any escapes.

I (and many others) probably had tomorrow down as a potential break-sticking (or even solo win) day. I'm going to take the penalty hits and get the sprinters in!

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posted by Ghedebrav [1113 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:14

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Gerro will try and win in yellow tomorrow. parcours suits him.

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7543 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:18

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
Gerro will try and win in yellow tomorrow. parcours suits him.

Agree, it will be another shoot out between him and Sagan

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posted by stumps [2889 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:22

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1,2,2,6,9,9, plus 1st,4th,5th,6th on GC and some jersey points for Kwiatowski. 141 points on my calculations. Not a bad day after all.

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posted by Timbo13 [272 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:23

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Definitely going to drop a bit but my team will be ok for tomorrow. Gerrans in and someone else, not sure who yet. Simon Clarke for a solo win? He'd pick up a few mountain points to tie for the polka dot if he goes first over every climb. That's a better long-term goal and they'd keep yellow as well.

posted by Alan Tullett [1478 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:32

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130 ish day for me plus gerrans in for tomorrow already
Not sure on the Simon Clarke idea I actually think Pierre Rolland has targeted the polka dot Jersey and they are playing the tommy v card for gc tbh
Thinking

posted by chiv30 [898 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:45

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I was right, 133 but 15th on the stage! Up 200 places in the overall!

Not a bad day in the end, bringing in Gerrans/Kwiatkowski/Chavanel for yesterday's stage really paid off. Shame about Millar, time to ditch him and Amador I think.

One question, is anyone keeping EBH?

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:46

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chiv30 wrote:
130 ish day for me plus gerrans in for tomorrow already
Not sure on the Simon Clarke idea I actually think Pierre Rolland has targeted the polka dot Jersey and they are playing the tommy v card for gc tbh
Thinking

Europcar are coming to the end of their sponsorship contract so I think the team have decided to use Rolland early on to get some air-time in the polka dots then switch to thinking about GC next week some time. It won't put too much strain on Rolland to chase the odd small climb this week so I reckon it's win-win for them.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:48

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drheaton wrote:
chiv30 wrote:
130 ish day for me plus gerrans in for tomorrow already
Not sure on the Simon Clarke idea I actually think Pierre Rolland has targeted the polka dot Jersey and they are playing the tommy v card for gc tbh
Thinking

Europcar are coming to the end of their sponsorship contract so I think the team have decided to use Rolland early on to get some air-time in the polka dots then switch to thinking about GC next week some time. It won't put too much strain on Rolland to chase the odd small climb this week so I reckon it's win-win for them.

Well I didn't know that about the sponsorship , shame I quite like the colourscheme makes it easy to spot

posted by chiv30 [898 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:53

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Not sure if Europcar are definitely not renewing but it's probably going to be decided based on how successful the Tour is.

There were also rumours that team 'Europcar' were aiming at World Tour next year so were looking to build up some decent WT points. That'd mean targetting GC (as GC gives more points than jerseys/stage wins by a country mile) with Rolland who's a better GC bet than Voeckler.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 15:59

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Pretty happy with today, bringing in kwit and Gutierrez for Dumoulin and Hivert worked. Now I have Gerrans, Sagan, EBH and Kwiatkowski for tomorrow. Just who to bring in for Nava. Play it safe with Kittel, or go for Simon Thinking

posted by TERatcliffe26 [4019 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 16:06

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Pretty happy with today, bringing in kwit and Gutierrez for Dumoulin and Hivert worked. Now I have Gerrans, Sagan, EBH and Kwiatkowski for tomorrow. Just who to bring in for Nava. Play it safe with Kittel, or go for Simon Thinking

Simon rarely comes above 6th in this sort of company and likely lower tomorrow. Kittel may get IM points. I've kept Kittel for now. Wish I'd brought in Gerrans rather than Simon for 3, but there are some much bigger decisions to come. The mountains will decide everything. Trying to find some cheap climbers who are worth a punt as you can probably only have 2 big guys in a team, (which is how it should be).

posted by Alan Tullett [1478 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 16:29

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Slowly inching up the table - 600 to 300 to 200(ish) now, thanks mainly to my new bff Gerrans (who also got me my only stage podium so far this year, in Catalunya).

Should have Sagan, Gerrans, Albasini, Kwiat and Kristoff tomorrow which is OK. Big day for Poland tomorrow with an all-Polish Wimbledon quarter-final - maybe there might be a double-celebration? Thinking

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posted by chrisdstripes [1649 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 16:34

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Alan Tullett wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Pretty happy with today, bringing in kwit and Gutierrez for Dumoulin and Hivert worked. Now I have Gerrans, Sagan, EBH and Kwiatkowski for tomorrow. Just who to bring in for Nava. Play it safe with Kittel, or go for Simon Thinking

Simon rarely comes above 6th in this sort of company and likely lower tomorrow. Kittel may get IM points. I've kept Kittel for now. Wish I'd brought in Gerrans rather than Simon for 3, but there are some much bigger decisions to come. The mountains will decide everything. Trying to find some cheap climbers who are worth a punt as you can probably only have 2 big guys in a team, (which is how it should be).

Good point, which would mean Kittel could pick up between 10-15 points maybe, and he would already be in my team ready for Thursday. I think my standard team will look similar to my purist team come the mountains, with someone replacing Sagan, bit how that will work in the end I don't know, because I want to get Clarke in at some point Thinking. Hoping maybe De Clerq at 10.8 could be a bargain if he performs

posted by TERatcliffe26 [4019 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 16:41

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up to 28th overall now and top of the forum league.

Now do I stick? Or twist?

I've got a feeling the sprinters will want to win tomorrow so break wont stay away, but will they cope with the cat 4's?? Thinking Thinking

posted by rcorbin [213 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 19:07

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Made my changes, EBH, Millar and Amador out, three sprinters in (but not Cav or Sagan).

Fingers crossed it pays off.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
2nd July 2013 - 21:02

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