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Purist Tour de France 2013

Just tried to sit down and pick a Purist team for the TdF and it's hard!

Lots of high value riders, very few very cheap riders and not many bargains to be had, this is going to be a tough race to get right from a fantasy point of view.

My thinking at the minute is Froome plus 1 high value rider (Sagan/Cavendish or maybe Contador/Voeckler) then some mid and low priced riders but there's not much quality lower down, might have to rethink and go for lots of mid-range guys...

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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thereallyfatcyclist | 10 years ago
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Here is my team, called
If I have To Watch It I May As Well Have A Team.

pick basis,"I'll just divide up the points as evenly as possible from near the middle of the list with names I have heard of."

Samuel Dumoulin
Rein Taaramae
Thomas De Gendt
Andrey Amador
Jon Izaguirre Insausti
Kanstantin Siutsou
Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas
Rohan Dennis
Andy Schleck

I'm The Fat Cylist's wife BTW. First time doing this.

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CarbonBreaker replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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Would love to drop Rogers for Porte, bring in Bertie, but it just does not work, damn budgets!

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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I don't want to give tips really but you always have the option of dropping both Martin and Rogers and picking up Contador/Voeckler/Rolland/Pinot plus one cheaper guy.

Gadret and Coppel are decent shouts at under 9 credits and riders like Bonnet (5.2) and Hoogerland (6.2) can pick up a few points. My worry with Rogers/Martin is that both will top 10 in the GC but not actually score many fantasy points on their way there finishing 15-20th each day and picking up minor points but being consistently average.

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backflipbedlem replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I don't want to give tips really but you always have the option of dropping both Martin and Rogers and picking up Contador/Voeckler/Rolland/Pinot plus one cheaper guy.

Gadret and Coppel are decent shouts at under 9 credits and riders like Bonnet (5.2) and Hoogerland (6.2) can pick up a few points. My worry with Rogers/Martin is that both will top 10 in the GC but not actually score many fantasy points on their way there finishing 15-20th each day and picking up minor points but being consistently average.

Yea thats the problem with a lot of the GC guys

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Yeah, attacking unpredictable riders that can win stages often score more fantasy points than riders on their way to a steady top 10 place.

That's why I'm not picking TJVG in my teams this race (plus he's bloody expensive). He's strong and steady but not likely to attack hard and win a stage. He's most likely to top 10 overall through consistently being top 10 on the big stages and doing well in the TT.

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Ghedebrav replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I don't want to give tips really but you always have the option of dropping both Martin and Rogers and picking up Contador/Voeckler/Rolland/Pinot plus one cheaper guy.

Gadret and Coppel are decent shouts at under 9 credits and riders like Bonnet (5.2) and Hoogerland (6.2) can pick up a few points. My worry with Rogers/Martin is that both will top 10 in the GC but not actually score many fantasy points on their way there finishing 15-20th each day and picking up minor points but being consistently average.

I've got a tenner on Rogers to finish top ten in GC - at 14/1.

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Ghedebrav | 10 years ago
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Happy to declare my peculiarly-organised purist:

Cav
Quintana
Costa
Hoogerland
Dennis
Navardauskas
Marino
Bonnet
Gadret

EDIT: I have already changed this.

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rcorbin | 10 years ago
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Probably change before tomorrow

Van Den Broeck (my top 3 tip)
Quintana (youth winner)
Cavendish (points winner)
Kittel (few sprint points)
Zubeldia (team leader?, experienced)
Schleck (bound to get a stage win)
Cunego (team leader, few top 10's?)
Mederel (cheap French guy)
El Flares (same as mederel)

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Stumps | 10 years ago
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My team for tomorrow and the next 20 odd days:

Christopher Froome
Moreno Moser
Richie Porte
Maxime Mederel
Alexis Vuillermoz
Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas
Alexander Kristoff
Murilo Antonio Fischer
Matteo Bono

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livestrongnick | 10 years ago
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A French affair for me

Rolland
Pinot
Bouhanni
Peraud
Gadret
Coppel
El Fares
Moinard
J Pineau

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STEVESPRO 79 | 10 years ago
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Said in an earlier post that my purist team is going to be picked with my heart and not my head...Picked with breakaways in mind and to keep me interested on the boring stages when 'Carlton' is doing my head in....

T.VOECKLAR
RUI COSTA
R.NAVARDAUSKAS
L.WESTRA
J.COPPEL
D.NAVARRO
J.HOOGERLAND
L-P.NORDHAUG
E.GASPAROTTO

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ray silvester replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:
stumps wrote:
chrisdstripes wrote:

Happy to reveal my existing team as a) I might still change it and b) its not like its going to give anyone any ideas they hadn't already thought of - probably only one or two unpopular picks. Panicked about having no GC guys and changed it at the last minute - trying to defend top ten in overall purist...

Sagan
Froome
Talansky
Kittel
Garcia
Hoogerland
Le Mevel
El Fares
Palacios

Feel free to critique!

I started off with Sagan and Cav in my team - got neither now  39

Kittel is a surprise he normally bottles it and packs in unless i'm thinking of someone else. Good team though, you should do well.

That's the impression I always have with Kittel.....flaky but fast when in the mood.....more of a stage 1 rider for standard team's

My purists are shaping ip like this:

Cavendish
Sagan
Dennis
Jeannesson
Hoogerland
LeMevel
Cunego
Gadret
Schleck

I think not having Quintana is probably my main headache.

LAST MINUTE CHANGE

Out:LeMevel/Jeannesson
In:Navarro/Bonnet

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CadenceKings | 10 years ago
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Its a long race so making this list was really hard. Not sure if there is enough balance but here it is...Schleck is my wild card.

Mark Cavendish (OPQ)
Ryder Hesjedal (GRM)
Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas (MOV)
Julien El Fares (SAU)
Daniel Martin (GRM)
Manuel Quinziato (BMC)
Daniel Navarro Garcia (COF)
Andy Schleck (RSN)
José Ivan Gutierrez Palacios (MOV)

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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Here's mine - bit of a chancer's squad really

Sagan
Porte
Quintana
Kittel
Dennis
Hoogerland
Gadret
Le Mevel
Fischer

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Alan Tullett | 10 years ago
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Gone for the big guns and 5 fillers. 3 GC and 1 Green.

Sagan
Froome
Porte
Quintana
Le Mevel
Bono
Gutierrez Palacios
Fischer
Mederel

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TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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Not sure on my team now ive seen others  39

Froome
Sagan
Quintana
Navarro
Gadret
Hivert
Hoogerland
Gutierrez
Fischer

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Plumped for Quintana in the end

Froome (top GC, three stage wins)
Cavendish (green plus four stage wins)
Quintana (possible white jersey/top ten GC, maybe KoM)
Kittel (consistent on the flat)
Coppel (dark horse for top ten GC, at least one long break)
Gadret (same)
Bonnet (sprint placings)
Palacios (Team TT)
Willems (Greipel bonus points)

In the end, Cav's stage wins outweigh Sagan's points, there's loads of good sprinters in this race and I don't see him getting top 5 on the flat too often.

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arsene | 10 years ago
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Sagan
Quintana
Hesjedal
Navarro
Vichot
Cimolai
Schleck
Gadret
Le Mevel

I always prefer a balanced team. Not having Froome is a risk though.

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Crap, Coppel lost 12 minutes yesterday, that's his GC hopes done. Wonder if he's finally given up on his aspirations and will chase a stage win. Fingers crossed he goes for the polka dot jersey  4

Other than that so far it hasn't gone entirely to plan. Cav dropped points on stage 1 and Bonnet hasn't really featured as I hoped. At least Kittel worked out well and I'm glad I didn't pick De Gendt in the end, shocked he dropped 17 minutes yesterday.

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STEVESPRO 79 | 10 years ago
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Well I picked my Purist team with my heart and not my head...Basically if I don't like the rider as a personality then I did not consider them....After two stages, I have zero points....

Sad thing is, I am still looking at my team and thinking that it looks pretty good....

T.VOECKLAR
RUI COSTA
J.COPPEL
R.NAVARDAUSKAS
L.WESTRE
D.NAVARRO
J.HOOGERLAND
L-P.NORDHAUG
E.GASPAROTTO

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drheaton replied to STEVESPRO 79 | 10 years ago
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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:

Well I picked my Purist team with my heart and not my head...Basically if I don't like the rider as a personality then I did not consider them....After two stages, I have zero points....

Sad thing is, I am still looking at my team and thinking that it looks pretty good....

T.VOECKLAR
RUI COSTA
J.COPPEL
R.NAVARDAUSKAS
L.WESTRE
D.NAVARRO
J.HOOGERLAND
L-P.NORDHAUG
E.GASPAROTTO

You can never tell how a purist team might do, looking at your team you could do appallingly or you could end up with a five way battle (Voeckler, Costa, Coppel, Westra, Hoogerland) for the KoM jersey and thrash everyone by a country mile.

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Stumps | 10 years ago
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It's not so bad, you got your first points with Westra in the break today  4

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chrisdstripes | 10 years ago
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Kittel and Sagan so far have done OK but not much else - ideal scenario for me is Garmin win the TTT and Talansky takes top 3 in GC and White jersey, and keeps it for a week or more. Glad Dennis dropped time, as others seem to have him, and he could've done likewise.

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zedand3 | 10 years ago
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Can anyone tell me how I've accrued points for Nacer Bouhanni (8 so far) he's finished well down the field both days.  39

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TERatcliffe26 replied to zedand3 | 10 years ago
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zedand3 wrote:

Can anyone tell me how I've accrued points for Nacer Bouhanni (8 so far) he's finished well down the field both days.  39

From the intermediate sprints

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paulfrank | 10 years ago
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Sky and Froome better start pulling their collective fingers out or my team will be going down big style, some nice early points from my DS but the big boys are very disappointing so far.

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chrisdstripes replied to paulfrank | 10 years ago
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paulfrank wrote:

Sky and Froome better start pulling their collective fingers out or my team will be going down big style, some nice early points from my DS but the big boys are very disappointing so far.

Yes - hopefully they'll manage to cope without a fully fit G in the TTT...

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Sky will be fine, Froome and Porte are strong TTers as are EBH, Kiriyenka and Kennaugh.

EBH in yellow tomorrow.

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TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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The good thing about coppel loosing time is that they have to ride for Navarro in GC, who I think will top 15, and have some decent stage results

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thefatcyclist | 10 years ago
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interesting, all the leader in the purist league have pick 5 fast men and padded out wilt low cost. They will pay in the mountains, but do you think this is a viable strategy, rather than say picking 2pc, 1 gc, 2 km, etc etc, intrigued an time will tell

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