Tour de Suisse Stage 2

by adholman   June 8, 2013  

Hi folks, is the route changed from the original?

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Breakaway group
1:15
Saez (EUS)
Sanz (MOV)
Frohlinger (ARG)
Riblon (AG2R)

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posted by Philip Unwin [714 posts]
9th June 2013 - 14:17

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Had both Saez and Riblon in one of my teams the other day (having said that Robert came last yesterday for one and Koch finished 7th for the other) so I cant complain

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 14:19

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Well this has gone very wrong for me! Penalty points gonna be needed again tomorrow

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:13

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You got a link to live text updates?

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posted by backflipbedlem [546 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:14

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posted by cherrypicked [118 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:18

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1 and 6 purist
Just 6th standard

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:34

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Mollema wins

Mollema
Frank
Pinot
Hesjedal
Tschopp
Martin
Kreuziger
Scarponi
Visconti
Pozzovivo

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:35

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Messed up my transfers again Sad. From now on I'll be using drh's penalty transfer tactics, and hopefully I can get this out of my system before the the TDF.

posted by Wig_Billy [569 posts]
9th June 2013 - 16:43

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wow awesome think i scored 23!!! Crying

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1366 posts]
9th June 2013 - 17:05

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Robert last man home again at least Smile

also 12th and 13th for my standard, but not gonna score well. Tejay and Albasini let me down

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 17:05

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im in the same boat, not a good stage, dan martin my best scorer. thought about frank and mollema but went costa and spilak instead- c'est la vie!

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posted by johnny2names [175 posts]
9th June 2013 - 17:33

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Once I work out whats what I'll get some scores done. Confused at the moment....

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 17:58

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RIGHT, I will not adjust stage one, but the points WILL be based on the SPRINT competition and NOT the points category, because the points is just based on finish line....

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 18:15

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Also the final mountain will be scored correct? It was a good 2km from the finish, as you can see by who scored and where riders finished

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
9th June 2013 - 18:24

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The mountain is scored yes. Because it wasn't the finish line Wink

Scores going up now

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 18:33

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Gkam84 wrote:
RIGHT, I will not adjust stage one, but the points WILL be based on the SPRINT competition and NOT the points category, because the points is just based on finish line....

Ok I'm confused , can you clarify for the thickos like me please Confused

posted by chiv30 [553 posts]
9th June 2013 - 18:47

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chiv30 wrote:

Ok I'm confused , can you clarify for the thickos like me please Confused

RIGHT, here goes. Because I know people are going to complain anyway.

It will ONLY be the intermediate sprint points that will count, because they are separate from the points competition in the TdS.

SO at the moment,

The POINTS competition looks like this

1 Cameron MEYER AUS OGE 25 15
2 Bauke MOLLEMA NED BLA 27 15
3 Ryder HESJEDAL CAN GRS 33 13
4 Mathias FRANK SUI BMC 27 13
5 Niki TERPSTRA NED OPQ 29 12

But that is PURELY based on finish line points, so it WILL NOT be scored in the game.

The SPRINT looks like this

1 Enrique SANZ ESP MOV 24 12
2 Adrian SAEZ ESP EUS 27 6
3 Johannes FRÖHLINGER GER ARG 28 1
4 Christophe RIBLON FRA ALM 32 1

and WILL be scored

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 18:59

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Gkam84 wrote:
chiv30 wrote:

Ok I'm confused , can you clarify for the thickos like me please Confused

RIGHT, here goes. Because I know people are going to complain anyway.

It will ONLY be the intermediate sprint points that will count, because they are separate from the points competition in the TdS.

SO at the moment,

The POINTS competition looks like this

1 Cameron MEYER AUS OGE 25 15
2 Bauke MOLLEMA NED BLA 27 15
3 Ryder HESJEDAL CAN GRS 33 13
4 Mathias FRANK SUI BMC 27 13
5 Niki TERPSTRA NED OPQ 29 12

But that is PURELY based on finish line points, so it WILL NOT be scored in the game.

The SPRINT looks like this

1 Enrique SANZ ESP MOV 24 12
2 Adrian SAEZ ESP EUS 27 6
3 Johannes FRÖHLINGER GER ARG 28 1
4 Christophe RIBLON FRA ALM 32 1

and WILL be scored

Ok cheers , just makes it slightly harder to pick sprint point winners as most are likely going to be break riders ....again thx Smile

posted by chiv30 [553 posts]
9th June 2013 - 19:33

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That's just the point, rather than just handing out bonuses for the first few to finish a stage

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 19:50

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well i got 2pts today!!! Wooo!

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posted by backflipbedlem [546 posts]
9th June 2013 - 21:46

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Yo Gkam looks like you got your Dombrowskis mixed up with your JTLs. 3 points Dombrowski for 18th place; big fat zero for JTL at 119th! Thankyou, appreciate your great work but can I have my score updated please Big Grin

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posted by Squiggle [410 posts]
9th June 2013 - 23:22

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Something still seems wrong with the stage 2 scores;
Hesjedal for example;
22 for 4th
12 for cat 1 climb
9 for 2nd overall in GC
5 for 1st overall in KOM
Total 48 points for stage 2?
Other riders have similar anomalies.
Could I suggest that the general scoring notes for each stage be refined; I have been caught before on the intermediate vs overall points competition concept.
Cheers

posted by tony kappler [11 posts]
9th June 2013 - 23:26

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It was MY mistake on scoring notes. The Cat's are for Grand Tours. On normal tours its 1-however many score.

So if like today, 5 people score, It goes 5,4,3,2,1

So Hesjedal

22 for 4th
5 for climb
9 for 2nd overall in GC
5 for 1st overall in KOM

The JTL and Dombrowski is just about to be fixed Nerd

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
9th June 2013 - 23:47

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Gkam84 wrote:
chiv30 wrote:

Ok I'm confused , can you clarify for the thickos like me please Confused

RIGHT, here goes. Because I know people are going to complain anyway.

It will ONLY be the intermediate sprint points that will count, because they are separate from the points competition in the TdS.

SO at the moment,

The POINTS competition looks like this

1 Cameron MEYER AUS OGE 25 15
2 Bauke MOLLEMA NED BLA 27 15
3 Ryder HESJEDAL CAN GRS 33 13
4 Mathias FRANK SUI BMC 27 13
5 Niki TERPSTRA NED OPQ 29 12

But that is PURELY based on finish line points, so it WILL NOT be scored in the game.

The SPRINT looks like this

1 Enrique SANZ ESP MOV 24 12
2 Adrian SAEZ ESP EUS 27 6
3 Johannes FRÖHLINGER GER ARG 28 1
4 Christophe RIBLON FRA ALM 32 1

and WILL be scored

There were seperate sprint/points competitions in the giro and we scored the points competition for positions at the end of stages and the sprint points for the first 3 to cross each point?

posted by ray silvester [1504 posts]
10th June 2013 - 10:33

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Check the "how to play" page, gives some guidance. It appears that grand tours get everything scored and not clarified for other tours....

posted by cherrypicked [118 posts]
10th June 2013 - 10:38

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ray silvester wrote:
There were seperate sprint/points competitions in the giro and we scored the points competition for positions at the end of stages and the sprint points for the first 3 to cross each point?

Not quite, there were sprint points throughout the stages in the Giro, those points were scored 6,4,2 for the first three.

These points were in the same competition as finish line points and the overall points reflected this.

With the TdS the Sprint and Points competitions are two different things

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posted by Gkam84 [7991 posts]
10th June 2013 - 12:23

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In the grand tours and other races run by ASO, like the Dauphine, the sprints and finish line points tend to be combined.

However in many other races, especially the smaller ones, the points competition and sprints competition tend to be separate.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
10th June 2013 - 12:54

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Why no tds stage 3 thread yet? I'm getting withdrawal Wink

posted by chiv30 [553 posts]
10th June 2013 - 13:09

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Gkam84 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
There were seperate sprint/points competitions in the giro and we scored the points competition for positions at the end of stages and the sprint points for the first 3 to cross each point?

Not quite, there were sprint points throughout the stages in the Giro, those points were scored 6,4,2 for the first three.

These points were in the same competition as finish line points and the overall points reflected this.

With the TdS the Sprint and Points competitions are two different things

As they were in the Giro....Cav won the points competition and Andriato the sprints competition?

posted by ray silvester [1504 posts]
13th June 2013 - 8:57

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That may be the case Ray, but the difference is that the points from the sprints counted towards the points competition, therefore the points competition included both sprint and finish line points, so we use that one

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3487 posts]
13th June 2013 - 9:11

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