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Personally think that this could be the race of the year looking at the stages and the declared riders so far....I know some will just use it as TdF training but it should be a cracking tour...
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Do you go for 5 no hopers with 4 elite riders, who will go for the GC, but may not win stages, or gamble with 7-8 decent riders, who may finish in top 10.... but you'll be lucky if they win the stage.
Picking likely stage winners on the first 3 days is very difficult.
Is EBH riding? He'd do ok for a poss win ...unless he is riding for the Froomster.
My purist team comes in at 150 exactly
No chief's all just plain old indians
I thought Sohrabi was Iranian, not Indian ???
Created both my teams and i think, barring withdrawals, i'm going to stick with them.
It's hurt my brain to much trying to get it sorted with umpteen attempts ending at minus 0.5 or minus 0.1 points
so picking any kind of decent team seems to basically be impossible
too many chiefs, not enough, erm, knowledge
I've just updated the start list, knock yourselves out picking a team....
P.S. There WILL be some changes before the race, because some riders are in the CONFIRMED start list of TdS
I'm going for a rider named after a port for stage 1.
Richie ?
Sydney? Elizabeth? Cockburns?
Getting warmer?
Just been checking tv schedule and no live coverage listed as yet because of French open tennis!
Yes, they seem only to have live coverage for Thur, Fri and Sat. They had Mon and Tue listed earlier so it looks like it is being cut further. Also looking ahead they have nothing listed for the Tour de Suisse. Obviously they think people prefer to watch paint dry at Roland Garros.
that betancur has got quite expensive
interestingly, ASO rate stage 2 (6 categorised climbs, 2 cat 2's) as 'flat'
stage 7 should have been classified as a summit finish, and now is. admittedly it's not a very big summit, but it is a summit.
The way the profile photo is cropped on the official site makes it look like its not categorized (I never noticed the 3 dangling in mid air when I first looked), which is why I thought it wasn't, but noticed it was after being pointed to steephill.
No chiv, that's not enrique's fault, its purely because he couldn't roll transfers forward...
Yep!
Ahhh sorry I keep forgetting he isn't premium ........
are the riders set for the dauphine yet? seems to be full squads to choose from...???
No mate that looks like a full riders list...The powers that be will be updating as they get the team startlists...if you click on procyclingstats and go to dauphine startlist this gives you an update of so far declared riders...
If you go onto Steephill and look at the profile for stage 7 its got the final short climb as a cat 3.
And on a slightly different note they also have the profiles up for the TdF.
The final ones with all the categorized climbs for all the stages?
Lulu Sanchez has just been added to the Tour de Suisse roster...
ALL riders have been added to the Tour de Suisse, because I haven't got a start list yet
Stage 3 is pretty flat, I guess it depends what you define as a sprinter, Sagan, Meersman, Gavazzi, Ratto, Matthews etc should all be at a finish like that, id class them as sprinters.
Cav may struggle but equally those cat 3 climbs don't seem as severe as the ones where the race split up in the final week at zero.
As for stage 7 its not a summit finish in my opinion, as the mountaintop point is a fair distance from the finish, yes it finish on a slight uphill, after the descent, but its not a summit (that rise would have been classed as cat 4 if they sure it as summit)
Looking at the course it looks like it's going to be a crackin' race.
Just a couple of questions.
Stage 3 Flat? Really? Although after the Giro it could be seen as that. I don't think I'll be putting any sprinters in.
Stage 7 Looks suspiciously like a summit finish to me.
Could be me looking at a poor quality profile.
Well, Stage 3 will be, apparently, the closest thing to a sprinter's stage... This reminds me of the "Flat" stage Geraint Thomas won in the TDU
It's ok, I guess, to classify it as "Flat" but sometimes I wonder if it skews the rider historical data when stages like this get classified as "Flat"....
And Stage 7, well, after a Cat 2 and and two Cat 1's, I'd be hard pressed not to think at least a few of the GC men will be getting some finish line points!
If it isn't classified as a "summit" finish, maybe it's just because in the game a "summit" finish can only come at the end of a "High Mountain" finish... Maybe a Cat 2 or Cat 1 and above?... 
Larger races provide stage profiles and ASO (who run the Dauphine and Tour) classify their own stages so generally we stick with what they provide. If ASO think one of their stages is a flat or medium mountain stage then who are we to question that. Likewise there is an expectation from those running the game that if you're taking the game seriously enough to be bothered if you call a stage finish wrong then you should be looking at stage profiles yourself and making your own judgements on who'll contest the finishes. If you don't think a stage will be a flat sprint, don't pick sprinters.
On the subject of how this affects values of riders, if you take it across 12 months (which the game does) then it all evens out. There will be stages in future races which are classified as flat which GC guys contest and stages classed as MM that sprinters contest. Values should reflect this but if there are 50 flat stages in a year and only one or two of those comes down to a GC sprint it won't skew values that heavily.
Ok, so now Stage 7 is classified as as a summit finish... I don't get this... Are we:
?...
'cause I thought somebody said:
... or did Dave make an executive decision to override the ASO?...
Just kidding! 
See what I put on my post above, it will explain why its been changed, the photo on the officially site is cropped in a way that its easy to miss the fact it is categorized
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