Giro d'Italia - Stage 15

by drheaton   May 18, 2013  

Confirmed that the stage will go ahead but the final climb of the Galibier will be shortened.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/galibier-stage-of-the-giro-ditalia-to-en...

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Philip Unwin wrote:
M2
1 Visconti
2 Pirazzi
3 weening
4 Rabottini
5 ???
( some sources are giving it to Chalapud, but I thought he had bee dropped and Rubiano went over 5th)
Pozzovivo is back on his bike and being paced back to the peleton)

5 Rubiano

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posted by Philip Unwin [771 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:17

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sprint 2
1 Visconti
2 Raabottini
3 Pirazzi
4 Weening
5 Kiserlovski

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posted by Philip Unwin [771 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:18

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2,3,4,7,8,9,10 for me today Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [8744 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:44

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Gkam84 wrote:
2,3,4,7,8,9,10 for me today Big Grin

Same here ,plus whatever points chalapud gives me

posted by chiv30 [855 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:47

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Rubbish. Think I'll stick to conservative transfers from now on.

posted by Wig_Billy [574 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:54

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Gamble failed Pozzovivo, crashes as do I.

2,3,4,7,9,10 plus Pirazzi points and only 4 transfers for Tuesday.

Crying Crying

posted by stevemarks [405 posts]
19th May 2013 - 16:58

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Only my second full house of the season! 2,4,7,8,9,16,17 plus Weening and Pirazzi. No cycling at all tomorrow! Sad

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posted by chrisdstripes [1564 posts]
19th May 2013 - 17:05

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chiv30 wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:
2,3,4,7,8,9,10 for me today Big Grin

Same here ,plus whatever points chalapud gives me

Same plus 13th and 17th = full house

Choosing Niemiec over Pirazzi should have paid off too

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3820 posts]
19th May 2013 - 17:05

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2,3,4,7,8,9,10,13,17 for me. that'll do Big Grin

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7274 posts]
19th May 2013 - 17:21

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I need to get last place home to only be a couple of points off you guys that got 13 and 17th Devil

Come on Le Bon or Mezgec Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8744 posts]
19th May 2013 - 17:32

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2,4,7,8,9,10 + chalapud + pirazzi points. Ok I guess

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posted by johnny2names [199 posts]
19th May 2013 - 17:50

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This is all relative! You may have done well but so has everyone else. It becomes easier to pick riders the later the competition progresses. The trick is to try to pick the riders on days where it is less predictable - as in earlier in the competition.

One of the weaknesses of the FC game is that once you get to this stage in the comp., it's almost impossible to have a chance of winning it unless you are in the top 20 or perhaps even top 10. I'm currently 37th but don't have a chance in hell of winning overall.

posted by Tom Amos [241 posts]
19th May 2013 - 18:02

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Appollonio lantern rouge

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1734 posts]
19th May 2013 - 18:02

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
2,3,4,7,8,9,10,13,17 for me. that'll do Big Grin

Same score as the boss

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3820 posts]
19th May 2013 - 18:15

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poor stage today, banked on the Galibier being open to the top and picked a team for that.

Fell short though with 2,7,8,9,10 plus pirazzi and chalapud

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2693 posts]
19th May 2013 - 18:16

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1, 4, 6, 7, 10, 17 for me.

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posted by giff77 [1041 posts]
19th May 2013 - 18:39

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Scores updating, my 201 points was only good enough for 217th on the stage! Crying

On the bright side 144 on my purist team moves by back up into the running again, unfortunately the purist leader had Visconti and is now 80 points ahead of everyone else.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
19th May 2013 - 19:55

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179 and 500th on the stage. I'm going stage hunting now! Question is the time trial or the last day?!

posted by rcorbin [208 posts]
19th May 2013 - 20:19

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I reckon the TT, stage 17 and 21 are the ones best for stage hunting. If you throw all your eggs into a sprint basket for 17 you may get lucky and by 21 more people will be stage hunting. Plus, 21 is pretty much nailed on top be a sprint finish whereas 17 could go either way and most people might go for safer picks Big Grin

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
19th May 2013 - 20:30

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drheaton wrote:
I reckon the TT, stage 17 and 21 are the ones best for stage hunting. If you throw all your eggs into a sprint basket for 17 you may get lucky and by 21 more people will be stage hunting. Plus, 21 is pretty much nailed on top be a sprint finish whereas 17 could go either way and most people might go for safer picks Big Grin

Surely then better to *not* go for those, given that everyone else will also be stage hunting? Better to go for a medium mountains stage and just select a random range of non-GC non-TT non-sprint guys who aren't protecting a teammate and have a bit of form?

A stage such as... the next one! Big Grin

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posted by Ghedebrav [1055 posts]
19th May 2013 - 20:54

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Ghedebrav wrote:
drheaton wrote:
I reckon the TT, stage 17 and 21 are the ones best for stage hunting. If you throw all your eggs into a sprint basket for 17 you may get lucky and by 21 more people will be stage hunting. Plus, 21 is pretty much nailed on top be a sprint finish whereas 17 could go either way and most people might go for safer picks Big Grin

Surely then better to *not* go for those, given that everyone else will also be stage hunting? Better to go for a medium mountains stage and just select a random range of non-GC non-TT non-sprint guys who aren't protecting a teammate and have a bit of form?

A stage such as... the next one! Big Grin

The high mountain stages (19 & 20) will be taken by those still after high overall placings so I'd avoid those. The flats (maybe 17, definitely 21) are predictable so yeah, the MM may work but they're less predictable. 17 is potentially best because it falls between an unpredictable stage 16 and the TT. Players going for the overall will likely stick with GC guys as they'll want them for 18 so there'd be less players stacking their teams with sprinters.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
19th May 2013 - 21:10

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Tom Amos wrote:
This is all relative! You may have done well but so has everyone else. It becomes easier to pick riders the later the competition progresses. The trick is to try to pick the riders on days where it is less predictable - as in earlier in the competition.

One of the weaknesses of the FC game is that once you get to this stage in the comp., it's almost impossible to have a chance of winning it unless you are in the top 20 or perhaps even top 10. I'm currently 37th but don't have a chance in hell of winning overall.

that's true whatever the rules are

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7274 posts]
19th May 2013 - 21:22

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What you're effectively saying is 'i can't in the six remaining stages overtake the people that have consistently outscored me in the first 15'

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7274 posts]
19th May 2013 - 21:27

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why oh why oh why does Gavzzi keep coming second to last on every stage. aaaaarrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh At Wits End At Wits End At Wits End At Wits End At Wits End

posted by letsgoup [139 posts]
19th May 2013 - 21:44

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
What you're effectively saying is 'i can't in the six remaining stages overtake the people that have consistently outscored me in the first 15'

Its the way the game is, you need to get out in front to win, its nigh on impossible to make up serious ground in the last week because the same GC guys are in the points every day and most of the top 50 are picking safely.

Unless you get lucky with a break (Visconti today) you've no chance. But Dave's right, if you score consistently less over 15 stages it shouldn't be easy to make that up in a couple of days. It is possible, but only by predicting breaks and that's a very risky ploy.

I was in the Giro top 20 last year but going into the last weekend I had no real chance of winning by picking the obvious riders so I tried to chase the break. I dropped like a stone and only by lucking out and picking De Gendt on the queen stage did I manage to limit my losses.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
19th May 2013 - 21:53

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Oh Yes

285pts and a long awaited first stage win Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Can we 'shorten' a few more stages please?

P.S I've already got a pump so feel free to either give it to the second place man or,better still donate it as a prize for the 'Pick Three Italians' game?

posted by silas chime [208 posts]
20th May 2013 - 8:12

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I've just seen it'sthe best stage score of the season so far Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise

posted by silas chime [208 posts]
20th May 2013 - 8:14

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silas chime wrote:
I've just seen it'sthe best stage score of the season so far Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise Surprise

Congratulations!

That is a good day!

posted by stevemarks [405 posts]
20th May 2013 - 8:22

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Tom Amos wrote:
This is all relative! You may have done well but so has everyone else. It becomes easier to pick riders the later the competition progresses. The trick is to try to pick the riders on days where it is less predictable - as in earlier in the competition.

One of the weaknesses of the FC game is that once you get to this stage in the comp., it's almost impossible to have a chance of winning it unless you are in the top 20 or perhaps even top 10. I'm currently 37th but don't have a chance in hell of winning overall.

Pretty much the same in real life......Peter Weening is the current 37th rider on GC and whilst he may not win the Giro there's chances for a stage win/podium(we'd get prizes/badges for that),he may move up the standings and therefore increase his UCI points(we'd move up in the overall/regional leagues) and so on.

There are different targets within the game as in cycling itself which may change as the season and indeed each event unfolds.

posted by ray silvester [1785 posts]
20th May 2013 - 8:27

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silas chime wrote:
Oh Yes

285pts and a long awaited first stage win Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Can we 'shorten' a few more stages please?

P.S I've already got a pump so feel free to either give it to the second place man or,better still donate it as a prize for the 'Pick Three Italians' game?

Hope that's OK?

posted by silas chime [208 posts]
23rd May 2013 - 8:09

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