Why is it considered wanky to wear sky kit

by joc   May 18, 2013  

Apologies if the intricacies of the Scottish language is lost on you all Big Grin
But I've noticed a few derisory comments about people wearing sky kit to sportives etc. why is it considered naff?

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CapriciousZephyr you nailed it and the ONCE jersey is here:
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I have the very same sitting on my shelf for the sunshine. I also cycled all the way from Manchester to Chester in 1999 to pick up the black TDF version and buy my first ever road kit. On a mountain bike it took 10 hours. I have no idea who on ONCE raced clean or not, I just wanted to be in yellow.

I am amazed this thread is still going! but it seem the 'wear what you want or what inspires you' are clearly in the majority on the road and on this forum. Maybe the naysayers have good reasons (and I am no fan of Murdoch) but there are definitely some that are snobs, you know who you are.
Take a look at the Funicular climb video and you will see all kinds of kit, pro teams, clubs, plain, bmx baggies, skinsuit and good old hoodies. They all rock and the variety adds to the gaiety of the nation. Get yourself down to a sportive and you might beat a few Sky guys but there will be someone else with Fizik written on his arse disappearing in to the distance leaving you in the dust.

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posted by bikeboy76 [997 posts]
21st May 2013 - 22:02

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You shouldn't give a tuppenny toss what other people think.

It isn't bad form or whatever the "others" espouse. The moment you start to listen to the "well considered opinions" of others about what to wear - you are lost. Wear WHATEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY and makes you feel good ... about yourself - and if that happens to make other people unhappy, or snide - so be it.

Give 'em the middle finger and just pedal harder.

I sometimes ride in the old Sky blue, red and white track styled top whenever I feel like it - and I totally love it! Makes me feel good and I am very proud to own it and wear it.

And I'm a fat old git in lycra - and I couldn't care less what others think.

I also run the roads in a GB Olympics 2012 T shirt (I just love the design!) and I occasionally wear a Great Britain Olympics 2012 blue hoodie when I'm out shopping.

It's not about pretending to be "somebody special" - but it is all about being who you are!

posted by comm88 [66 posts]
24th May 2013 - 16:04

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Look me in the face.

LOOK ME IN THE GODDAM FACE.

Is this OK?

IS IT?

REALLY?

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Is that a Chinarello?

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posted by trikeman [346 posts]
27th May 2013 - 6:25

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IMHO wearing the Sky top is equivalent to wearing a Man Utd or Liverpool top. Add to this the Murdoch connection and the quality of the shirt and I'm out

posted by snappyandrew [41 posts]
29th May 2013 - 6:18

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I note that there is a poll result in Cycling+ this month on this very subject. Something like 64% say wear what you want. Only 15% say you shouldn't wear it because you haven't earned it.

Dodging the saccadic masking

posted by notfastenough [2488 posts]
29th May 2013 - 6:42

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Just bought a copy one from china for 8.99. Might be cheap and nasty but in all honesty i dont give a toss what anyone else thinks or says.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2312 posts]
29th May 2013 - 6:43

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Super Domestique wrote:
northstar wrote:
Wear what you want, it's no one's business but yours.

All that needs to be said.

End of.

posted by Roscoemck [8 posts]
29th May 2013 - 7:44

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I wouldn't wear the Sky kit because of two reasons:

1) I don't particularly like the Murdoch connection and most importantly:

2) It just doesn't do anything for me. It, along with many other pro-kits, are very dull and boring but then many of the rest are ridiculously lairy.

If I was going to spend that amount of cash on it I'd want to like it. There are several Rapha jerseys I'd opt for over the Sky one, last years Paris - Roubaix one for starters.

The British kit is an absolute no-no for me as I regularly end up doing the same route (Down the Kingsway into Longsight) as a few riders on the British team based at the Velodrome. I'd be too embarrassed wearing it in front of them.

posted by farrell [911 posts]
29th May 2013 - 8:11

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And whilst I'm not Anti-Sky kit being worn, I have encountered some tossers in Sky kit, so if you are wearing a Sky kit and you are referred to as "That tosser in the Sky kit" it may not necessarily be due to your choice of attire. You may just be a tosser.

Always worth remembering.

posted by farrell [911 posts]
29th May 2013 - 8:30

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Ah yes, that nasty Mr. Murdoch,

Owner of that company investing millions into British cycling at amateur (Olympic) level

Owner of the company sponsoring the team who gave us our first British TDF winner,

Owner of the paper running a prominent cycling campaign

Owner of the company sponsoring the sports youth trust

The world's not black and white, folks! Surprise let's not forget the above when we jump on the anti-Murdoch band wagon. I seek to redress the balance here in a cycling context and I'm not saying he and his organisation are saints.

posted by 700c [469 posts]
29th May 2013 - 11:29

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700c wrote:
Ah yes, that nasty Mr. Murdoch,

Owner of that company investing millions into British cycling at amateur (Olympic) level

Owner of the company sponsoring the team who gave us our first British TDF winner,

Owner of the paper running a prominent cycling campaign

Owner of the company sponsoring the sports youth trust

The world's not black and white, folks! Surprise let's not forget the above when we jump on the anti-Murdoch band wagon. I seek to redress the balance here in a cycling context and I'm not saying he and his organisation are saints.

Bingo

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posted by joc [67 posts]
29th May 2013 - 15:34

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Hmmm...how much interest did The Times take in cycling BEFORE one of their staff was seriously injured in a bike accident?

Sky's sponsorship of cycling started AFTER British Cycling started winning medals and gaining global plaudits. Businesses provide sponsorship for very oblivious reasons, not because they have any particular love of the sport.

If Sky was genuinely interested in cycling, it wouldn't be the Johnny-come-lately of the sport, throwing its money around like a middle-eastern Sheik with a football club. And we would have seen cycling on Sky Sports before 2010.

And then there's Murdoch himself, and his hateful media empire, bribing, lying, libelling, hacking, objectifying women, etc etc. If you think throwing a few coins into cycling's begging bowl is somehow mitigation for the appalling behaviour of Murdoch and his minions over many decades, then by all means wear Sky kit. But it's not something I would consider.

posted by tomisitt [24 posts]
31st May 2013 - 17:51

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@Tomisitt, yeah much better if Sky had been running a team in say, 1998, when everyone was nicely doped up.

How dare they come late to the party, with their new-fangled complete zero tolerance approach to doping!

Seriously, we all know corporations are essentially after their own interests, in this case publicity through success through sport on the world stage. It just so happens that they've chosen cycling, a sport I love, and have contributed to British success, which I applaud.

To completely dismiss all that because of an anti Murdoch view is being too simplistic, in my view.

But by all means, wear what you want! Those Festina tops are nice! Wink

posted by 700c [469 posts]
31st May 2013 - 18:31

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tomisitt wrote:
Hmmm...how much interest did The Times take in cycling BEFORE one of their staff was seriously injured in a bike accident?

Sky's sponsorship of cycling started AFTER British Cycling started winning medals and gaining global plaudits. Businesses provide sponsorship for very oblivious reasons, not because they have any particular love of the sport.

If Sky was genuinely interested in cycling, it wouldn't be the Johnny-come-lately of the sport, throwing its money around like a middle-eastern Sheik with a football club. And we would have seen cycling on Sky Sports before 2010.

And then there's Murdoch himself, and his hateful media empire, bribing, lying, libelling, hacking, objectifying women, etc etc. If you think throwing a few coins into cycling's begging bowl is somehow mitigation for the appalling behaviour of Murdoch and his minions over many decades, then by all means wear Sky kit. But it's not something I would consider.


I couldn't give a toss about the reasons behind it but you are extremely naive if you don't think that sky have had a massive effect on British cycling... And I find your smug Johnny come lately comment extremely arrogant. So what I've you've been into cycling for years. What's your contribution to the sport we love?

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posted by joc [67 posts]
31st May 2013 - 18:42

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Undoubtedly Sky's sponsorship has been very beneficial to British cycling, encouraging more people to get onto bikes. But don't think for one second that their sponsorship is based on anything other than sound financial reasoning.

BTW, Sky's zero-tolerance didn't stop them employing Geert Leinders, so I think we should be careful before getting too sanctimonious.

My Johnny-come-lately observation was meant to illustrate that Sky has no historic love of cycling; they identified sport where they could get maximum exposure, threw relatively large amounts of money at an expensively assembled team, and have done very well out of it.

I'm happy that Wiggins won the Tour, even if it was uncomfortably remiscent of US Postal (and about as exciting), and I'm delighted to see Brits doing well in the peleton. It's a shame Sky don't have a women's team. Presumably because it doesn't get the sort of media coverage that warrants that sort of investment.

Ultimately, in my view Murdoch and his corporations are morally bankrupt, and that's why I'd never wear the kit. If other people want to, that's entirely their business.

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31st May 2013 - 20:17

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This is the line
The line between winning and losing
Between failure and success
Between good and great
Between dreaming and believing
Between convention and innovation
Between head and heart
It's a fine line
It changes everything we do
And we ride it every day

If you have had time to read this guff on the back of the jersey of someone pootling along in the middle of a narrow lane, hands feathering the brakes in front of you then there's every chance that the kit might seem a bit wanky. Wear it if you want, I guess some people like the taste of corporate jiz. Each to his own.

Brailsford, the Olympic team and British Cycling have done wonders for the sport. Murdoch has thrown in some money, he's still an execrable character.

Ah! Condor

posted by Bedfordshire Clanger [301 posts]
31st May 2013 - 20:48

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tomisitt wrote:
Undoubtedly Sky's sponsorship has been very beneficial to British cycling, encouraging more people to get onto bikes. But don't think for one second that their sponsorship is based on anything other than sound financial reasoning.

BTW, Sky's zero-tolerance didn't stop them employing Geert Leinders, so I think we should be careful before getting too sanctimonious.

My Johnny-come-lately observation was meant to illustrate that Sky has no historic love of cycling; they identified sport where they could get maximum exposure, threw relatively large amounts of money at an expensively assembled team, and have done very well out of it.

I'm happy that Wiggins won the Tour, even if it was uncomfortably remiscent of US Postal (and about as exciting), and I'm delighted to see Brits doing well in the peleton. It's a shame Sky don't have a women's team. Presumably because it doesn't get the sort of media coverage that warrants that sort of investment.

Ultimately, in my view Murdoch and his corporations are morally bankrupt, and that's why I'd never wear the kit. If other people want to, that's entirely their business.


I think you'll find most sponsors of pro teams are based on sound financial reasoning

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posted by joc [67 posts]
31st May 2013 - 23:09

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I have to say reading all this rubbish about team kit is almost enough to put a new cyclist off even bothering to get out and ride. I've recently returned to riding and as I need a jersey just happen to like and have bought some of the pro team kit. I don't hurtle past people thinking I'm in some way superior, I certainly don't make snide comments as I'm in no position to and just because I have some team kit I don't profess to be any kind of expert. So books and covers springs to mind.

For all those people passing comment, how about we all concentrate on riding (and getting others to), rather than worrying our tiny minds about what is allegedly naff and what isn't .

Wear what you want, when you want and enjoy the experience!

posted by Philsopinion [2 posts]
14th July 2013 - 20:22

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People will be saying it's ok to wear Pierre Rolland's polka dot shorts next... Wink

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15th July 2013 - 7:43

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Philsopinion wrote:
I have to say reading all this rubbish about team kit is almost enough to put a new cyclist off even bothering to get out and ride. I've recently returned to riding and as I need a jersey just happen to like and have bought some of the pro team kit. I don't hurtle past people thinking I'm in some way superior, I certainly don't make snide comments as I'm in no position to and just because I have some team kit I don't profess to be any kind of expert. So books and covers springs to mind.

For all those people passing comment, how about we all concentrate on riding (and getting others to), rather than worrying our tiny minds about what is allegedly naff and what isn't .

Wear what you want, when you want and enjoy the experience!

Majority of posts on this thread actually say exactly this, so I'm not sure where you are coming from with 'all this rubbish'. If this is representative of wider road cycling opinion then rest assured you are unlikely to be judged by very many, whatever you wear.

As for Rolland's polka dot shorts, agreed, they were bad, like some children's pajamas or something! At least he won't have to worry about that after yesterday's stage! (unless he's still wearing by default as the yellow's technically leading KOM,.not sure).

posted by 700c [469 posts]
15th July 2013 - 11:41

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Just ride guys. And if you're buying Italian, go a size up......

posted by Jamescorbridge [2 posts]
15th July 2013 - 14:27

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Can't say I studiously went through each comment but the ones I had read (too many) led me to pick up on "all this rubbish" and a few too many people needlessly commenting on individuals taste.

Nothing wrong with proudly showing a little team allegiance especially after Froomes fantastic efforts yesterday.

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15th July 2013 - 18:28

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Yesterday I saw an XXL full Sky pro kit panting up a gentle incline, and last year's Sky World Champ in a similar size doing a similar thing. I have nothing against people being out of shape - we've all got to start somewhere - but spending £430 in a slightly misguided attempt to look like Chris Froome marks you out as.... something.

Mind you I'm not one to talk. Yesterday it was so hot I tore the sleeves off an old jersey and looked like an abomination against cycling fashion. But hey, I kept a bit cooler.

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15th July 2013 - 18:47

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bashthebox wrote:
People will be saying it's ok to wear Pierre Rolland's polka dot shorts next... Wink

That would be fab! Why not, awesome.

Seriously, I can't believe this thread has come back again. Whoops/bump.

David Bowie agrees with me

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posted by bikeboy76 [997 posts]
15th July 2013 - 19:44

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Surely someone should ask Pierre Roland how much of a twat he felt wearing polka dot jersey, shorts, helmet and socks whilst being overtaken by half the peloton on his polka dot bike on Mont Ventoux. If he felt ok about it, then so should everyone else Wink

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15th July 2013 - 22:44

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THIS is why you only wear the yellow jersey if you are leading the TdF, otherwise you get something like this

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posted by Gkam84 [7814 posts]
17th July 2013 - 12:14

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People should just wear whatever they want, personally I'd rather be someone good in crap gear and a crap bike than the other way round.

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posted by pants [47 posts]
22nd July 2013 - 5:41

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pants wrote:
People should just wear whatever they want, personally I'd rather be someone good in crap gear and a crap bike than the other way round.

none of the gear all of the idea! Ha Ha Big Grin

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22nd July 2013 - 6:13

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tired old fart wrote:
pants wrote:
People should just wear whatever they want, personally I'd rather be someone good in crap gear and a crap bike than the other way round.

none of the gear all of the idea! Ha Ha Big Grin

also if you are actually crap you can blame the bike!

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posted by pants [47 posts]
22nd July 2013 - 11:36

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It's amazing how angry some people get about what to wear on a bike! I'm certainly with the "wear what you want" camp.

Personally, I have a stash of vintage cycling gear that I've bought over the years, some 20 years plus. Remember Tulip? Full kit and I still fit into it. That's what keeps me going. That and my love for actually cycling.

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23rd July 2013 - 10:41

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