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Fancy Betancur to take the win after coming close twice. We'll see...!

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Nibali looked so strong at the top of that climb yesterday....He may well go and try for the bonus seconds with two flat stages coming up....Nibali and Betancur..1 and 2 for me...  1

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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Yea was thinking of keeping the same team I had yesterday, as a few people that should of delivered didn't, so hoping they'll make amends today, but can't ignore the form of Bentacur. Might be my only transfer

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I've made two transfers, one to chase the break and one to bring in Betancur.

I can't see Nibali winning today, it's a stage more suited to a break and as long as a strong-ish break goes away I can't see Astana bringing it back.

Plus, the final climb isn't as tough as yesterday and with a short downhill section at the end it's possible that it'd suit a climber with a sprint, someone like Evans maybe?

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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Who to drop for bentacur?
Di Luca
Rubiano
Atapuma

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Dont think a break will be allowed to take the bonus seconds at the end....The rest of the GC need the bonus seconds more than Nibs does....I really think that he has all the bases covered...Too strong for anyone out there at the moment....Uphill TT to come....just cannot see who can stop him barring crashes/mechanicals...

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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backflipbedlem wrote:

Who to drop for bentacur?
Di Luca
Rubiano
Atapuma

Any of those but I'd keep Di Luca as he's cheapest.

I dropped Atapuma as he wasn't overly strong yesterday and I dropped Rubiano a few days ago.

Based on the parcours I think maybe Rubiano is more suited to today but you never know what's going to happen.

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TERatcliffe26 [4644 posts] 3 years ago
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I made 3 transfers, one in preparation for stage 12/13. The problem comes who to drop on those stages. I dropped Pellizotti and kept Battaglin and Gavazzi for those stages.

Nibali
Evans
Santambrogio
Viviani (for Wiggins)
Betancur (for Pellizotti)
Majka (for Di Luca)
Pirazzi
Battaglin
Gavazzi

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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Do u reckon Uran will be allowed to do a repeat of yesterday? And maybe be given the go ahead to go for overall victory?

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't think today is as hard a finish as yesterday so I don't know if Uran will be able to get away as easily. Yesterday was a long and very steep climb for the finish, today is much shorter and not as steep. Today's finish is 7km at only 7% rather than the stupid 20% bits yesterday.

I see a larger GC group coming to the finish together with the likes of Wiggins still in there. He won't be as easy to drop today.

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dave atkinson [6224 posts] 3 years ago
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yeah the final climb today is neither long enough nor steep enough to distance anyone half-decent. bunch finish from a reasonably select group, i reckon. but if there's a break that the GC are happy with, i reckon it'll stay out

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I agree with Dave, Astana won't work to bring it back and have the chance of Uran/Betancurt/Evans taking the bonus time ahead of Nibali so if a strong enough break goes away (unlike yesterday) I reckon it'll stick.

Maybe one of the Columbians (Pantano hopefully as he's in my purist team) will take it or a Vini guy like Rabottini or Di Luca.

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I agree with Dave, Astana won't work to bring it back and have the chance of Uran/Betancurt/Evans taking the bonus time ahead of Nibali so if a strong enough break goes away (unlike yesterday) I reckon it'll stick.

Maybe one of the Columbians (Pantano hopefully as he's in my purist team) will take it or a Vini guy like Rabottini or Di Luca.

But thats my point...the likes of Uran/Betancur/Evans need the bonus secs more than Nibali and so their teams will need to bring the break back more than Astana....Its a win win situation for Nibs....Too strong...

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Here goes then :-

NIBALI
BETANCUR
EVANS
SANTAMBROGIO
NIEMIC
MAJKA
SANCHEZ
PANTANO
SELLA

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Betancur (for Atapuma)
Chalapud (for Pellizotti)
Pirazzi
Nibali
Evans
Pozzovivo
Santambrogio
Di Luca
Battaglin

Wanted Betancur for the finish, think he may finally get the win today (although Evans may push him for it if it comes down to a GC sprint), and Chalapud for the break as Columbia will want to get someone in there after missing it the last few days (plus at 3 credits Chalapud helps free up funds for sprinters tomorrow).

Expecting a breakaway win but with the GC guys rolling in in a fairly large group not far behind. Don't think any of the top 5-10 will lose a great deal of time today and don't expect the stage to be hard enough for someone to try and take serious time out of their rivals.

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm goign to go out on a limb here and say Nibali WONT win the Giro.

There is some hellish climbing to be done and i know his team aren't upto it and i cant see him being able to live with constant breaks going out, especially if the big gc teams stick together.

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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As for today, i'm with people on Betancur or Pozzivivo or Pirazzi.

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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DNS
Georges (AG2R)

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I agree that Nibali has far from got this race wrapped up. If Scarponi, Santambrogio, Gesink, Betancur, Pozzovivo & Uran all start attacking in the last week (after Astana have been leading the peloton for a full week) then I think Astana won't be able to handle it and I think someone will make up huge time on Nibali.

I also think Sky will focus days that suit Wiggins more and look to blow Astana apart on those days giving both Wiggins and Uran a chance to capitalise.

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I agree that Nibali has far from got this race wrapped up. If Scarponi, Santambrogio, Gesink, Betancur, Pozzovivo & Uran all start attacking in the last week (after Astana have been leading the peloton for a full week) then I think Astana won't be able to handle it and I think someone will make up huge time on Nibali.

I also think Sky will focus days that suit Wiggins more and look to blow Astana apart on those days giving both Wiggins and Uran a chance to capitalise.

The best price that you can get on Nibali to win is 1/4 on....So its fair to say that the bookies are with me on this one.....He is in the form of his life....The only way he loses is if his bike breaks......because his legs won't.....  1

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm chasing the break today;

Pirazzi
Rabottini
Chalapud
Weening

Evans
Nibali
Betancur
Santambrogio
Gavazzi

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
drheaton wrote:

I agree that Nibali has far from got this race wrapped up. If Scarponi, Santambrogio, Gesink, Betancur, Pozzovivo & Uran all start attacking in the last week (after Astana have been leading the peloton for a full week) then I think Astana won't be able to handle it and I think someone will make up huge time on Nibali.

I also think Sky will focus days that suit Wiggins more and look to blow Astana apart on those days giving both Wiggins and Uran a chance to capitalise.

The best price that you can get on Nibali to win is 1/4 on....So its fair to say that the bookies are with me on this one.....He is in the form of his life....The only way he loses is if his bike breaks......because his legs won't.....  1

Similar was said last year for the TdF and Sky blew him and his team apart.

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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40k covered and no breaks

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Well Nibali was never my favourite for the 2012 TdF...I hope you are all right and Nibali fails miserably...Ive personally never liked him, but I say what I see...He will win the 2013 Giro barring accident or illness.. We shall see...  3

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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Over 60k gone, no break. Peleton going too fast.

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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All together at 80k

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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In case you were expecting Uran to take over the leadership from now on I don't think it'll happen just yet, this is a quote from him:

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"Henao and I are here working for the team. We've already shown that we are men who are willing to work for the team," said Uran, whose contract with Sky expires at the end of the season. "We are not Froome, so we'll just see what happens day by day. We knew our roles from the start of the race."

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:

Well Nibali was never my favourite for the 2012 TdF...I hope you are all right and Nibali fails miserably...Ive personally never liked him, but I say what I see...He will win the 2013 Giro barring accident or illness.. We shall see...  3

If i was a betting man i would take you on at that !

I like Nibali but just got this gut feeling he might come a cropper. There are to many riders for different teams who are there or thereabouts for his team and himself to control.

Personally if Wiggins doesn't win, which i dont think he will, i would like to see a Sky lad win followed by Nibs. However my money is on Santambrogio.

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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17 riders have opened up a gap of 3.35

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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First break is

Navardauskas, Bonnafond, Jackson Rodríguez, Cobo, Pirazzi, Martens, Oss, Duque, Sarmiento, Egoi Martínez, Le Bon, Gusev, Pauwels, Keukeleire, Popovych, Puccio, Gretsch, Petrov, Veuchelen, Di Luca. They have a 4' gap with 100km to go

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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No changes today....want 4 freebies for the sprint tomoorrow and friday

Gesink
Visconti
Wiggins
Kelderman
Sella
Chalapud
Betancur
Pirazzi
Majka

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