Tour of California stage 2

by chrisdstripes   May 13, 2013  

What are we expecting today then? I had a very sprint-biased team yesterday which obviously didn't work out too well, so have taken a ten-point hit, but still not really much of an idea who will do well.

Brought in Westra, and Tejay, and someone I didn't expect to go for all season - Andy Schleck - who looked fairly comfortable and interested yesterday.

Still have 4 sprinters though, so won't be a good day - expecting to lose my 2nd place in the Forum Scorum's league tonight! (And then take it back tomorrow with an 80-point solo win from Wauters in the Giro. Maybe.)

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your gc is now

Acevedo
TJ
Deignan
Frank
Rogers
Mancebo
Haga
Busche
Craddock
Meyer.

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posted by stumps [2847 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:43

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1, 3, 20. Not bad considering I missed deadline.

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posted by obutterwick [536 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:48

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Yeh 1 and 8 for standard, I can't believe I chose not to bring in Tejay Crying

1,2,8 for purist should be ok, considering I have Sagan, Meersman and Matthews for the next 3 days as well as the top 2 in GC, and should be solid in the TT.

Still think no Deignan could cost me

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:52

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1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:53

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1,2 and 8 i think for mancebo from the top 10.

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posted by stumps [2847 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:54

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2,3,5,8,18 for me. Quite happy with that.

posted by NeilG83 [260 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:55

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1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

posted by simon F [994 posts]
13th May 2013 - 22:56

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TOP 20 ON THE STAGE.

1 ACEVEDO COLLE, Javier Alexis
2 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay
3 DEIGNAN, Philip
4 FRANK, Mathias
5 ROGERS, Michael
6 HAGA, Chad
7 BUSCHE, Matthew
8 MANCEBO PEREZ, Francisco
9 CRADDOCK, Lawson
10 MEYER, Cameron
11 DE MAAR, Marc
12 JENKINS, Max
13 EUSER, Lucas
14 ENGLISH, Nathaniel
15 GAIMON, Phillip
16 MORTON, Lachlan David
17 BALDWIN, Christopher
18 KONIG, Leopold
19 DIDIER, Laurent
20 BUTLER, Chris

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posted by stumps [2847 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:00

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Wig_Billy wrote:
1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

You will still easily outscore me!

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:00

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simon F wrote:
1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

Wow, I think you'll be miles ahead in both overall competitions.

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:01

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simon F wrote:
1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

Defo ruing my Gilbert gamble now! I didn't get the memo on bringing in Deignan either

Cheers for blowing my purist team out of the water too!

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:05

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Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

posted by NeilG83 [260 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:09

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With 10 minutes covering the first 30 or so riders. You are going to be luck to have half the peloton in within the time limit......This could be a scrapped stage for timing after place 50 or so.

Plus riders lying at the side of the road totally out of it.....

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:14

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NeilG83 wrote:
Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

Agreed

It shows when over half the top 20 are either American or regulary race in America, how tough it was, As tough as the climb was I can't imagine Westra having lost 8 minutes had that been in europe

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:19

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Gkam84 wrote:
With 10 minutes covering the first 30 or so riders. You are going to be luck to have half the peloton in within the time limit......This could be a scrapped stage for timing after place 50 or so.

Plus riders lying at the side of the road totally out of it.....

110 riders inside the limit at the moment (22 mins down) including the main protagonists for the flat stages, Sagan, Meersman, Matthews.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:22

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
NeilG83 wrote:
Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

Agreed

It shows when over half the top 20 are either American or regulary race in America, how tough it was, As tough as the climb was I can't imagine Westra having lost 8 minutes had that been in europe

Which idiot thought it was a good idea to hold a bike race in the desert in the middle of May?

Why has there been no protest from the teams or riders?

It was shocking to see the state Pieter Serry was in. Sport is meant to be entertainment. See riders risk their health is not fun to watch.

posted by NeilG83 [260 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:28

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117 finishers inside the time cut according to PCS including Serry.

Vancansoleil down 3 riders 1 DNF and 2 outside time limit.

posted by NeilG83 [260 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:32

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The same idiot who had to cancel stages because of snow last year and the year before.... Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:33

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You know its BAD, when almost every rider has a different time gap

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:38

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Gkam84 wrote:
The same idiot who had to cancel stages because of snow last year and the year before.... Devil

Thought it probably was. Angry

posted by NeilG83 [260 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:41

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Cantwell finished today, but is OUT, suspected broken ribs and what a mess his leg is in https://twitter.com/J_Cantwell/status/334091522809135104/photo/1/large

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
13th May 2013 - 23:47

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That was not pleasant to watch at the end. It looked dangerous to there health. I hope everyone makes a full recovery and is able to race tomorrow.

posted by Abbie [45 posts]
14th May 2013 - 0:29

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I can't see it, I think there will be a number of DNS tomorrow.

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
14th May 2013 - 0:47

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you get the impression that it had to be an american based winner and they put that stage in to prove it.

Ridiculous place / time to hold such a stage.

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posted by stumps [2847 posts]
14th May 2013 - 5:49

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Wig_Billy wrote:
1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

I looked at your team and thought damn he scored more than me even taking a penalty! In fact I've realised a bit late that the penalty point strategy is the best one. Took a few hits in the Giro and they worked out and got me back into a semi-respectable position. Will be using it again but wasn't thinking about it two nights ago. Wasn't sure about TJ either but should have had Acevedo as I'd read about him in Cycling News but forgot his name. Race more interesting than last year but climbing talent is not so strong. Painful to watch at times as well.

posted by Alan Tullett [1468 posts]
14th May 2013 - 6:43

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How come Matthews has been removed?

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
14th May 2013 - 8:45

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2,5,8, normal service restored form me after a good first stage. I did the classic - must get an expensive rider in- mistake, was gonna go deignan but took zabriskie instead... someone shoot me! i was vaguely aware of acevedo, but didnt get close to choosing him so cant kick myself too much. wont forget him now though!!

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posted by johnny2names [199 posts]
14th May 2013 - 11:00

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Alan Tullett wrote:
Wig_Billy wrote:
1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

I looked at your team and thought damn he scored more than me even taking a penalty! In fact I've realised a bit late that the penalty point strategy is the best one. Took a few hits in the Giro and they worked out and got me back into a semi-respectable position. Will be using it again but wasn't thinking about it two nights ago. Wasn't sure about TJ either but should have had Acevedo as I'd read about him in Cycling News but forgot his name. Race more interesting than last year but climbing talent is not so strong. Painful to watch at times as well.

It is a good strategy, but I don't think it was the right one for this race. My purist team is currently doing better than my standard team, and today I'll just be bringing in riders who I got rid of yesterday (possibly for more penalty points). Conclusion - it would've been better to do a bit more forward planning. Nerd

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
14th May 2013 - 11:07

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Because I couldn't find him listed in the finish results, lots of places have him down as DNF, but on the UCI results, he isn't even there.

Will go double check now Thinking

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
14th May 2013 - 11:10

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Ok, he'll go back in, he's appeared overnight Angry

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
14th May 2013 - 11:12

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