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Thoughts on the day's picks?

I was a bit overburdened with sprinters, so have taken a ten point hit to bring in Nibs, Uran and Visconti. The big news for stage will be bringing in Brad plus a.n. other cheapish tt-er (or a versatile chap like Betancur?).

Suspect Paolini and Katusha may give it one last push to keep the pink before he well-and-truly loses it after the time trial.

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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Lush stage today, some big shake ups if the gc boys want to play.

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Yep...Three crucial days now....Would not be surprised to see the weaker TT guys in the GC stakes having a little play today...Nibali and Santambrogio might just light it up a little just to stop Wiggo and Hesjedal having a quiet day in preparation for tomorrow...
May see Sanchez have a little dig today....
So much speculation today...  1

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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It could be either an interesting stage or a boring one, it all depends on how much Hesjedal and Nibali want to make Wiggins suffer before tomorrow.

If Hesjedal has his eyes on some more bonus time then maybe he rides the stage hard and puts Wiggins into difficulty picking up a few seconds plus some finish line bonus seconds. Just as likely though is that Hesjedal rides hard, can't drop Wiggins and then loses a minute tomorrow....

I've made 5 changes taking 30 penalty points in order to chase the break, it could go horribly wrong but I'm far enough behind in the overall now that I don't have a real chance of winning.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Oh, and a heads up, Visconti was in a crash yesterday and ended up in hospital as a precaution. As far as I know it's nothing serious but that might make him less likely to get in the break today.

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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Ah Dr man, you've done it now ! Used my last pick on Visconti - going to have to wait till the last minute and possibly take a 10 pointer.

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dave atkinson [6224 posts] 3 years ago
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I've gone for a couple of guys that like a day on the bumpy stuff but can also hold their own in the ITT tomorrow. tbh though it's a finger-in-the-breeze kind of a stage for me  4

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Same here Dave, a sort of transitional stage...  1

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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apart from wiggo who are the main tt guys??

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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Its a tough call as its a really long ITT with a pretty decent climb at the end,so it will not suit all TT specialists. Some climbing allrounders should do well on the course....

Best thing to do is research riders on procyclingstats...There is an option on the site to see how individual riders perform in Time Trials...Look at this and work out who seems to go well in longer Time Trials.....But even then those unpredictable buggers have to have the legs and the desire on the day...  3

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TERatcliffe26 [4636 posts] 3 years ago
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Im confused, Ive brought in Ryder for Cav, but don't know what to do without messing up my team for tomorrow  39 I may just leave Viviani in for the fact he may get some points from the points comp, I also think I will leave in Ventoso and Visconti in case as im not good at chasing the break etc

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chrisdstripes [1728 posts] 3 years ago
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Anything could happen today, early break could even stay away, or a late attack by not-quite-gc guys might be let go, or the gc guys could really animate things and blow it open, or a group of 50 could be sprinting for it. Easy game...

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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Dario Cataldo will be riding virtually past his house today.

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dave atkinson [6224 posts] 3 years ago
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backflipbedlem wrote:

apart from wiggo who are the main tt guys??

the course is quite long, and word is it's pretty technical in places. the climb at the end isn't long but if you've binned yourself then you could still lose a chunk of time on it.

my feeling is it'll still favour the true TTers over the all-rounders, in spite of the climb. probably i'll get found out though  1

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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I just don't have the in depth knowledge for this, lol.
So is it better to just try and prepare my team for the TT tomorrow>?
I know you guys dont want to give away too many of your picks, but a little bit would be greatly appreciated.

Current team, which did alright yesterday:

Bouhanni
Locatelli
Nibali
Viviani
Aru
Cavendish
DiLuca
Santambrogio
Battaglin

possibly thinking to get rid of cavendish and maybe bouhanni, but just guessing, lol

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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Get rid of Bouhanni, Cav and Viviani for today. They will only pick up points classification points today and you could use the credits on better guys for the hills and tt tomorrow.

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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backflipbedlem wrote:

I just don't have the in depth knowledge for this, lol.
So is it better to just try and prepare my team for the TT tomorrow>?
I know you guys dont want to give away too many of your picks, but a little bit would be greatly appreciated.

Current team, which did alright yesterday:

Bouhanni
Locatelli
Nibali
Viviani
Aru
Cavendish
DiLuca
Santambrogio
Battaglin

possibly thinking to get rid of cavendish and maybe bouhanni, but just guessing, lol

In my humble opinion Cav and Bouhanni will not feature in the next few days and so I would be looking to bring in GC contenders who can TT and climb....I had Cav and Bounanni yesterday so after the deadline I will publish my team to give you an idea for next time....  3

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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do we know if visconti is fine??

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dave atkinson [6224 posts] 3 years ago
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I've got:

Benat Intxausti (MOV)
Luka Mezgec (ARG)
Tanel Kangert (AST)
Fabio Aru (AST)
Giovanni Visconti (MOV)
Giacomo Nizzolo (RSN)
Julien Berard (ALM)
Rigoberto Uran (SKY)
Luca Paolini (KAT)

brought in Intxausti and Kangert cause both of them can time trial and they might fancy a knockabout in the hills, Intxausti is 3rd in GC too. Visconti/Paolini/Uran/Aru all remain from previous and hopefully will keep jersey points. Hopefully.

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Ghedebrav [1100 posts] 3 years ago
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Was sorely tempted by Intxausti, he's the big enigma of the race (for me, anyway, as I've not had the time to go through his stats). Movistar have just looked so impressive this season.

In the end stuck with Nibali. The devil you know...

As a side point, I'm desparate to get rid of my low-value riders who, Taborre aside, have got me pretty much zero points.

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backflipbedlem [1197 posts] 3 years ago
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ok, got rid of cav, bouhanni and viviani
brought in evans, visconti and Intxausti

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TERatcliffe26 [4636 posts] 3 years ago
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ok so this is how ive gone

Hesjedal (for Cav)
Pirazzi (for Viviani) hopefully will go for some mountain points
Phinney
Paolini
Santambrogio
Visconti
Battaglin
Ventoso
Gavazzi

Ventoso and Battaglin are my wildcards to be at the finish, Pirazzi and Visconti for mountain points and Hesjedal GC. Will bring in Wiggins tomorrow, but then may have to make a penalty transfer to get my team right though

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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Lodewyck (BMC)
Howard (OGE)
DNS

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chrisdstripes [1728 posts] 3 years ago
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Could be a disaster today..
Nibali
Rubiano
Visconti
Ventoso
Degenkolb
Di luca
Pellizotti
Bole
Wauters

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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team for today,

Carlos Alberto Betancur
Benat Intxausti
Fabio Aru
Stefano Locatelli
Wilco Kelderman
Giovanni Visconti
Bradley Wiggins
Mauro Santambrogio
Thomas Dekker

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edwardbmason [14 posts] 3 years ago
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Nibali
Paolini
Rabottini
Kessiakoff
Ventoso
Mezgec
Keisse
Visconti
Zandio

Kessikoff and Rabottini in for Cav/Viviani

I fancy Rabottini to try and get in a break, but that may well be just because of his great ride last year...
Kessiakoff can TT pretty well, but I'm worried he's going to be shepherding Nibali too much today to try getting in the break.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I've been brave/crazy and made 5 transfers (3 of which were penalties).

Rabottini (for Cav)
Visconti (for Viviani)
Pirazzi (for Bouhanni)
Evans (for Dehaes)
Rubiano (for Degenkolb)
Santambrogio
Paolini
Mezgec
Gavazzi

Could go either way, if Rabottini, Pirazzi, Visconti and Rubiano all go in the break I'm quids in, if they don't then all I can hope for is that between them they try and get away towards the end.

Evans is my cover in case it comes to a GC sprint finish because he looks good and outsprinted Hesjedal earlier in the race.

No idea what I'm doing tomorrow, have given up planning and will just make as many transfers as I want  4

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 3 years ago
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Dr, your last paragraph reminded me of Keegan when he was manager at Newcastle and that was the season they finished 2nd, so good luck mate  4

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 3 years ago
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Cattaneo (LAM) also reported to have abandoned after an early crash

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 3 years ago
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I hope three of your transfers work out drh ;). My team;

Rabottini
Pirazzi
Rubiano
Hesjedal
Betancur
Paolini
Battaglin
Gavazzi
Dehaes

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STEVESPRO 79 [544 posts] 3 years ago
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SANTAMBROGIO
SANCHEZ
INTXAUSTI
VISCONTI
HESJEDAL
CLEMENT
PAOLINI
ARU
DeHAES

10 pen points...

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