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Okay, so my girlfriend is worried about me being hit by a car and wants me to get some sort of high vis top whilst cycling. She suggested a high vis sash  26 , I refused B-). I use a front/rear light combo everytime I'm out. I was thinking of getting a fluro top (do these only really work in dull light or will they be good in summer too?) but wondering if I'd be better off with a bright coloured top (red or something) Suggestions/advice welcome and any ideas for tops to get.

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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This is just my opinion of course but the most common coloured cars are red, white and blue (plus shades of).

Avoid something that will match those as drivers will lose you in amongst parked cars etc.

I go out lit up like a christmas tree both from the front and rear. I wear a top that has reflective stripes on it as well.

No fluro colours just bright lights.

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northstar [1108 posts] 3 years ago
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Wouldn't bother with high viz, makes sod all difference to driver's attitude, your gf is worrying when she need not.

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FMOAB [261 posts] 3 years ago
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Nice strong flashing rear light if you/she are anxious. I do think that muted colours can disappear on the road, but I don't think they need to be hi vis. Even in bright sunlight, areas shaded by trees can be problematic with drivers legitimately doing 60mph, if they don't see you...

But the very thought of wearing a hi vis sash - I'm with you, no way!

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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I use front and rear lights which I feel do a good job of keeping me visible, I'll possibly buy a fluro to put her at ease - though I don't think its going to make much difference... I've only had one close call and I had lights on then so my feelings are if someone doesn't see me...they don't see me...not much to be done.
I can see why fluro would help in dull conditions, but I'd imagine it would be worse in bright/summer light looking washed out in the sun.

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A V Lowe [573 posts] 3 years ago
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Best get a Mr Bibbendum outfit then!

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chiefoldmist [67 posts] 3 years ago
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I think getting something reflective is far more effective in the dark than flouro - as previously suggested and in the words of robin Williams in good morning Vietnam "clash"

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notfastenough [3673 posts] 3 years ago
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A sash?! You'd look like you'd just come from working in the clothes section at Next!  31 4

How about a little flasher on the back of your helmet, a couple of fibre flares on the seatstays and a jacket with some 3m reflective bits?

You could opt for a Campag or Castelli jacket, some of those are reasonably colourful.

Look on the bright side, at least you've got budget approval for new kit!

There are a few silver/grey jackets about, and I think they more or less disappear in rain/spray, so probably best avoided.

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gazza_d [459 posts] 3 years ago
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Doesn't matter what you wear. If a driver is looking at his mobile phone or fannying with his radio he ain't gonna see you!

At night (not that I go far in the dark) a couple of decent LEDs with different flashing patterns will catch the attention.

As for during the day, frankly you shouldn't need anything. I wear colourful tops, but avoid hi-viz like the plague as I hate it and it seems to be an idiot magnet!

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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Well I think I'll go for some bright colours, but at the same time not really wanting to look like I've just come from a rave. I do think that people wearing hi-viz sometimes believe that good cycling isn't needed 'cus they can be 'seen'.
I know that if someone's not paying attention then there isn't anything I could do no end of lights/fluro will help.

Good excuse to spend money on new summer (fingers crossed) and spring gear  1

Thanks for the help so far guys!

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Tour Le Tour [87 posts] 3 years ago
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I am a fan of lights and reflective bits in the dark. Hi-vis doesn't do as much good as these two, IMO.

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cojones [12 posts] 3 years ago
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I am doing the London - Paris this year and one compulsory piece of kit is as follows...

Hi-viz vest compulsory!
With BS EN471 class 2 standard label to wear in bad weather conditions

Now I have two questions...where the heck do I buy one and why would the French be interested in a BS item?!!

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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Got to be said, I have no idea! Could try halfords maybe or failing that B&Q? builders style. Just out of interest what are the other required kit

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deadhead1971 [18 posts] 3 years ago
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I commute to work with a little rucksack, with one of those hi-viz HUMP covers on it. I recently also got a hi viz altura night vision jacket. Don't think it really makes much difference in bright daylight (women driver still try to kill me on roundabouts, going on recent experience) but when it's dark enough to need lights, the extra hi viz gear makes cars give you a bit more room.

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sm [376 posts] 3 years ago
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Compulsory clothing for a sportive? And I thought compulsory helmets were bad, what next, compulsory glasses, gloves, bananas in your back pocket?

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cojones [12 posts] 3 years ago
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Cycle_Jim wrote:

Got to be said, I have no idea! Could try halfords maybe or failing that B&Q? builders style. Just out of interest what are the other required kit

This is just the 'cycle' part of the kit list...overshoes? In July?

Cycle helmet - Compulsory
Cycling shoes / trainers - Make sure you train in them and they are comfortable. Stiff sole recommended for increased power transfer between foot and pedal
Cycling socks (2 or 3 pairs) - No need for a clean pair per day but enough to have dry socks each morning
Cycling gloves (fingerless) - Essential for comfort and grip – gel padding reduces road vibration; thin full- fingered gloves may be useful on cold mornings
Padded cycling shorts x 2 - Lycra with chamois insert better than ‘baggies’ for full days on the bike
Cycling leggings - For cooler days or to put on over shorts at lunch-stops
Cycling tops / T-shirts x 2 - Traditional cycling jerseys have useful pockets at the back and usually wick moisture well; tops made from cotton absorb sweat - not recommended
Wicking base layer - Recommended if cycling tops do not wick moisture well enough
Thermal jacket / warm top - For cooler days / lunch-stops
Waterproof windproof jacket - Good quality (eg gore-tex) essential; material should be highly breathable and have good wind resistance to prevent cold air reaching your chest
Hat / cap - For sun protection off bike
Sunglasses - Must fit well so stay in position when looking down; wraparound style useful
Overshoes - Optional – keep feet warm and dry in wet conditions
Hi-viz vest compulsory! - With BS EN471 class 2 standard label to wear in bad weather conditions

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dave atkinson [6209 posts] 3 years ago
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deadhead1971 wrote:

I commute to work with a little rucksack, with one of those hi-viz HUMP covers on it. I recently also got a hi viz altura night vision jacket. Don't think it really makes much difference in bright daylight (women driver still try to kill me on roundabouts, going on recent experience) but when it's dark enough to need lights, the extra hi viz gear makes cars give you a bit more room.

*dons nerd hat*

hi-viz clothes don't work after dark. fluorescent fabrics work by reacting to ultraviolet rays, not visible light. There's no UV in car headlights.

After dark you need reflectives, not hi-viz. plenty of that on humps and altura night vision though.

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colhum1 [86 posts] 3 years ago
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I have fitted a white led to the left side of my lid...certainly helps with cars about to turn right from junctions in front
and a red led fitted into a vent hole at the back of my lid....
I set both to fast strobe and seems to work, certainly notice the reaction of drivers approaching from behind.
As for Hi-Viz...for my pennies worth orange type seems more effective in daylight...maybe why rail track and road workers are moving away from the yellow type.

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pirnie [199 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm wondering if the compulsory Hi-Vis vest is anything to do with the french law that you have to carry one in a car? No idea if that applies to bikes though.

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Steveal [30 posts] 3 years ago
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Regarding bs en 471... I brought an ex police high viz tunic from a local army surplus store last year for commuting in the dark. It is labelled up with bs en 471. It's not a waterproof one, but is a bright yellow and has two wide reflective bands all the way around the body, two around each long sleave, and one up and over each shoulder. My thinking was that it would be dark and the fashion police wouldn't know it was me... oh, and it was only £4 ! I suspect its the reflictive bits that satisfy the bs en standard. I got a smaller size than I would normally so it didn't flap around too much. I did see a gillet in decathlon the other day that had a different number (bs en 1150). It was cycling specific and looked pretty good for what it is imo. I'm not sure if any of this helps though! Good luck with the ride.

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giff77 [1232 posts] 3 years ago
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cojones wrote:

I am doing the London - Paris this year and one compulsory piece of kit is as follows...

Hi-viz vest compulsory!
With BS EN471 class 2 standard label to wear in bad weather conditions

Now I have two questions...where the heck do I buy one and why would the French be interested in a BS item?!!

You should be able to pick one up at a local builders merchants/protective clothing store. It's probably not so much the French interest in a bs# but the fact that Discovery operate out of the UK and this is our equivilant to the Euro version and therefore easier to get the hold of. Incidentally, I'm doing the same route but the other way.
Edit - just found out that the EN is the international reference, the BS refers to the UK

Also rail workers have always worn orange (since 1964) and are not migrating from yellow  26 26 26

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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I've just bought a fab little head torch from ebay for night fishing for £5.90.

It fits onto my lid and its powerful enough to burn the retinas of over enthusiastic drivers, cant recommend it enough.

300LM 3 MODE CREE Q5 LED Zoom.  4

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giff77 [1232 posts] 3 years ago
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Stumps, I sometimes worry about you mate  3

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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Its the pressure of dealing with the great unwashed on a daily basis mate. Sends you a bit daft.  40

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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Good call on the light Stumpy, great value bit of kit there!
@Dave, thanks for the science! I now know my new fluro top (which doesn't actually look all too geeky) should only be used in daytime!

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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Cycle_Jim wrote:

Good call on the light Stumpy, great value bit of kit there!
@Dave, thanks for the science! I now know my new fluro top (which doesn't actually look all too geeky) should only be used in daytime!

Thanks, they get delivered from China so it takes a while but the light they give off is fab. In all honesty you do have to be careful with the full beam on cos it is ridiculously bright.

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dave atkinson [6209 posts] 3 years ago
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helmet lights: I've got some of these on the back of my lid, and i'd recommend them:

http://road.cc/content/review/71083-busch-and-muller-topfire-helmet-lights

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brettclouser [3 posts] 3 years ago
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My name is Brett, I'm a US-based cyclist and designer. I just launched a reflective clothing company for the modern cyclists on Kickstarter (http://kck.st/10nDxk0) after three friends were hit by cars while riding their bikes at night. Anything to make riders more visibility is key. Let me know any feedback you guys have for me on my designs.

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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@Brett

It looks pretty nice, I'm gonna say now that the shape of the reflective sections look a touch like things that you'd put a golf ball on (maybe that was intended)
I'd like to see if it would work for jerseys too?

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Cycle_Jim [264 posts] 3 years ago
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@Dave

They look nice  10 On the wish list I think!

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dave atkinson [6209 posts] 3 years ago
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some peeps on the review saying they've had trouble with the batteries &c. no issues with mine in that regard, though the double sided tape did give up after about 4 months. glued 'em on then.

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