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Vuelta al Pais Vasco - Stage 4

Tough decisions to make today, will Txurruka go in the break again?  Will the same people be racing for the win or will the slightly easier finale make for a different selection.

My transfer decisions are basically which 2 of 3 riders do I drop for which 2 of 3 I want?

I can either drop Fuglsang and Barguil for Ulissi and Didier or another sub 6 credit rider or I can drop Peraud and Barguil for Ulissi and Txurruka.

I don't really want to drop Peraud and I'm worried that Txurruka pretty much has the jersey sewn up now so won't go in the break today but he's a guaranteed 10 points whatever happens.

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Stumps | 10 years ago
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Personally i think if its a summit finish you should get KOM points, you would if it was a mountain earlier in the stage so why not here ?

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Because you don't get sprint points on a flat stage but you do in intermediate sprints, what's the difference?

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JAndrewHill | 10 years ago
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Rather than being a summit finish, this was more of a PLUMMET finish....as Talanski and a.n.other will concur

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simon F | 10 years ago
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It's the same finish as Stage 3 of last year's Vuelta. The finish is approx 2km after the KoM point. The KoM was scored then so it should probably be scored this time. I don't really care one way or the other though. I'd just like a decision so we can all find out our scores for the day.

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Apologies for the delay, after a stewards enquiry the official decision is that the points count.

In future, if it's a HM (high mountain stage, as today's is) then it's not officially a summit finish and therefore the KoM point will apply.

Make sense?

Scores are updating.

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northstar | 10 years ago
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I think I've got this right - I have 3 transfers for tommorrow but if i don't use one, I will lose it / won't have 5 for the TT?

Thanks

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northstar | 10 years ago
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Yeah, I'm premium, i thought the same rules applied, thanks dr  16

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NeilG83 | 10 years ago
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I have been playing this game for almost 2 years and have finally finished 1st on a stage. 255pts for me today.

Have got all the badges except the 10,000pts now too.  4

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enrique replied to Stumps | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

... I'll have to take a look at the profile when I score the stage...

Why oes it take so long to score the stage and put up the results?  2

Alan Tullett wrote:

Usually such finishes are not scored.

chrisdstripes wrote:

If the finish line is also the KOM line, then they aren't scored, but that isn't the case here.... it seems funny to have it as a discretionary rule when it could just be black-and-white - all KOMs count unless it is also the finish line.

I agree... Score it...

stumps wrote:

Personally i think if its a summit finish you should get KOM points, you would if it was a mountain earlier in the stage so why not here ?

I agree...

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simon F replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Apologies for the delay, after a stewards enquiry the official decision is that the points count.

In future, if it's a HM (high mountain stage, as today's is) then it's not officially a summit finish and therefore the KoM point will apply.

Make sense?

Scores are updating.

All seems perfectly reasonable and makes sense. Thanks for sorting it out (with or without the stewards' help)

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chrisdstripes replied to JAndrewHill | 10 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

Rather than being a summit finish, this was more of a PLUMMET finish....as Talanski and a.n.other will concur

That deserves a big laughing face  21

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drheaton replied to northstar | 10 years ago
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northstar wrote:

I think I've got this right - I have 3 transfers for tommorrow but if i don't use one, I will lose it / won't have 5 for the TT?

Thanks

It depends, are you premium? Standard players can carry two forward so can have at most 4, there is no limit on how many transfers a premium player can roll forward.

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enrique replied to NeilG83 | 10 years ago
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NeilG83 wrote:

I... finally finished 1st on a stage. 255pts for me today.

Wow! Pretty cool! Nice!  1 You must be 1st on the High Scores for the season, too!  1

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drheaton replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
drheaton wrote:

... I'll have to take a look at the profile when I score the stage...

Why oes it take so long to score the stage and put up the results?  2

Enrique, the full results have only been available for a short while (we have to wait for official results on all climbs/sprints etc) so it's not like we can update them immediately on the finish of the race. I can't rely on unofficial twitter feeds or anything like that, I need cold hard official results or something like what Cycling News provides which is what I usually use.

Anyway, those doing the scoring also have jobs and other commitments that mean that it may take until 8pm or 9pm to put up scores some days. Apologies if this is too late for you but we're doing it voluntarily.

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ray silvester replied to NeilG83 | 10 years ago
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NeilG83 wrote:

I have been playing this game for almost 2 years and have finally finished 1st on a stage. 255pts for me today.

Have got all the badges except the 10,000pts now too.  4

Chapeau NeilG83......I'll race you to the 10K badge?

Although I've Still never had a stage win  39

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NeilG83 replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:
NeilG83 wrote:

I have been playing this game for almost 2 years and have finally finished 1st on a stage. 255pts for me today.

Have got all the badges except the 10,000pts now too.  4

Chapeau NeilG83......I'll race you to the 10K badge?

Although I've Still never had a stage win  39

I think you'll beat me to 10K Ray. You're more than 500pts ahead of me at the moment.

Kept the same team for today, so I can have 4 transfers available before the TT.

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Philip Unwin | 10 years ago
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Abandoned
Brajkovic
Gerrans
Elissonde
Roy
De Gendt

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Philip Unwin | 10 years ago
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2nd moutain
1 Vorganov
2 Montaguti
3 Velits

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Philip Unwin | 10 years ago
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Sprint 2
1 Ratto
2 Montaguti
3 Vorganov

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chrisdstripes | 10 years ago
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Looking a bit different now, yes!

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Alan Tullett | 10 years ago
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Doesn't look like the break will make it, though it could be close!

Got

Quintana
Talansky
Porte
Henao
Betancurt
Ulissi
Sanchez
Didier
Txurruka

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Dropped Spilak for Txurruka today, Txurruka took a day off from hoovering up points and now Spilak is off the front with Weening and Herrada...

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Noooo!  14

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Alan Tullett | 10 years ago
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Spilak off the front! Too early maybe.

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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I hope so, I hope he goes too early, breaks, falls off his bikes and ends the race in a pool of tears.

Sorry, that's kind of mean but I really really really don't want him to score a single point today.

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chrisdstripes | 10 years ago
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7 in the lead group, 6 of them in my standard and 5 in my purist - hope Peraud comes 7th!

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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1.7km to go and all together.

Phew  19

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obutterwick | 10 years ago
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1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9. Imagine I'm not the only one.

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NeilG83 | 10 years ago
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1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9 for me today!  4  4  4

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chrisdstripes | 10 years ago
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Wow - 1,2,3,4,5,6,16 plus 10 for Txurruka!
Tho' I guess there will be a lot of fairly similar teams.

Peraud and Talansky both slid off over the line - comically slippery, no wonder Quintana didn't celebrate!

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