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Wiggo might enjoy another peak finish today, but sky might do better if he acts as lead out man for rigoberto, if he can sprint better... so I should pick lopez if I do my usual fantasy pick strategy. Liar

Sometimes I have to remind myself this is just a game! Crying

posted by stevemarks [83 posts] 21st March 2013 - 9:13

Left out Purito! another dodgy decision as I know he is probably going to win on home turf, but the temptation of the young Frenchie after yesterday was too much, will probably be quietly weeping tonight! My other baby garcons had a bad day yesterday. Confused

posted by stevemarks [83 posts] 21st March 2013 - 9:26

Went Irish today

Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Nairo Quintana (MOV)
Daniel Martin (GRM)
Nicolas Roche (SAX)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (LAM)
Tiago Machado (RSN)
Christian Meier (GRE)
Cristiano Salerno (LIQ)
David Lopez (SKY)

posted by rcorbin [87 posts] 21st March 2013 - 9:55

Took a 10 point penalty for todays stage, took Kadri and brought Niemiec in.

team for today

Bradley Wiggins
Daniel Martin
Nairo Quintana
Joaquin Rodriguez
Robert Wagner
David Lopez
Valerio Agnoli
Przemyslaw Niemiec
Martin Kohler

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 10:07

Quintana
Wiggins
Valverde
Niemiec
Navarro
Machado
Majka
Ratto
Agnoli

Meersman in tomorrow Wink

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2658 posts] 21st March 2013 - 10:21

stevemarks wrote:
Left out Purito! another dodgy decision as I know he is probably going to win on home turf, but the temptation of the young Frenchie after yesterday was too much, will probably be quietly weeping tonight! My other baby garcons had a bad day yesterday. Confused

I had the wrong 2 French Revolutionaries too but found it impossible to bring Pinot in and keep Purito and Valverde.

Just the one transfer today....Domagalski in for Agnoli hoping that he goes for a few more mountain pts today.

My Standards(starting the day in 8th for La Volta)

Elissonde
Jeannesson
Valverde
J.Rodriguez
Quintana
Salerno
Meier
Nocentini
Domagalski

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 10:26

I've stuck with the expensive trio, so no need to spend time deciding who else might do well as I don't have the funds anyway. Brought in Quintana for Meersman, which in hindsight I should have done yesterday as a penalty transfer - tactical error!

Wiggins, J-Rod, Valverde, Quintana
Salerno, Priedler, Landa, Betancurt, Poulhies

6 of the above are also in my purists, so hoping for another good day today...

posted by chrisdstripes [748 posts] 21st March 2013 - 10:34

Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Alejandro Valverde (MOV)
Robert Gesink (BLA)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (LAM)
David Lopez (SKY)
Tiago Machado (RSN)
Ricardo-Jorge Mestre (EUS)
Robert Wagner (BLA)
Cristiano Salerno (LIQ)

Don't buy upgrades. Ride up grades.

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posted by obutterwick [384 posts] 21st March 2013 - 11:02

After my shocker yesterday 32points.... Sick Crying
Taken 20 point hit to try and get my team back into shape

Valverde for JVDB
Scarponi for D Martin
Salerno for simon
Domalgalski for Meersman
Wiggins
Machado
Santaromita
Agnoli
Pinaeu

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posted by livestrongnick [691 posts] 21st March 2013 - 11:10

Agnoli's quit

2nd day running I've taken someone out the morning before they abandon(Davis yesterday) Cool

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 11:52

25 riders up the road @ 1'40"

7 BETANCUR, Carlos (COL/Ag2R)
15 ARU, Fabio (ITA/Astana)
23 TEN DAM, Laurens (NED/Blanco)
27 KRUIJSWIJK, Steven (NED/Blanco)
36 SANTAROMITA, Ivan (ITA/BMC)
46 SALERNO, Cristiano (ITA/Cannondale)
54 ASTARLOZA, Mikel (ESP/Euskaltel)
68 PICHON, Laurent (FRA/FDJ)
71 HESJEDAL, Ryder (CAN/Garmin)
75 MARTIN, Daniel (IRL/Garmin)
82 LOSADA, Alberto (ESP/Katusha)
87 TROFIMOV, Yury (RUS/Katusha)
97 STORTONI, Simone (ITA/Lampre Merida)
101 VAN DE WALLE, Jurgen (BEL/Lotto)
114 HERRADA, Jesus (ESP/Movistar)
121 BRAMBILLA, Gianluca (ITA/Omega)
125 GOLAS, Michal (POL/Omega)
148 KISERLOVSKI, Robert (CRO/RadioShack)
157 PATE, Danny (USA/Sky)
166 PREIDLER, Georg (AUT/Argos)
171 ROCHE, Nicolas (IRL/Saxo)
184 RUIJGH, Rob (NED/Vacansoleil)
191 ARROYO, David (ESP/Caja Rural)
203 BAGOT, Yohan (FRA/Cofidis)
206 MOLARD, Rudy (FRA/Cofidis)

posted by simon F [659 posts] 21st March 2013 - 11:56

Betancur,Aru,TenDam,Kruijswijk,Santamorita,Salerno Big Grin ,Astarloza,Pichon,Hesjedal,Martin,Losada,Trofimov,Stortoni,VanDeWalle,Herrada,Brambilla,Golas,Kiserlovski,Pate,Priedler,Roche,Rujigh,Arroyo Bagot and Molard have 40" on the peloton.......Irish Eyes are smiling rcorbin?

The first KOM point 'Coll De Merolla':

Aru 4 fantasy pts
Hesjedal 3 fantasy pts
Trofimov 2 fantasy pts
Kiserlovski 1 fantasy pt

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:02

After 63km, break is now at 2'25"

posted by simon F [659 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:07

RadioVolta now saying that Stortoni and Preidler are not there. Only 23 riders, not 25. Also it's not Golas but Verona from OPQS

posted by simon F [659 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:12

ray silvester wrote:
Betancur,Aru,TenDam,Kruijswijk,Santamorita,Salerno Big Grin ,Astarloza,Pichon,Hesjedal,Martin,Losada,Trofimov,Stortoni,VanDeWalle,Herrada,Brambilla,Golas,Kiserlovski,Pate,Priedler,Roche,Rujigh,Arroyo Bagot and Molard have 40" on the peloton.......Irish Eyes are smiling rcorbin?

The first KOM point 'Coll De Merolla':

Salerno 4 fantasy pts
Aru 3 fantasy pts
Hesjedal 2 fantasy pts
Trofimov 1 fantasy pt

Correction:Predler,Golas and Stortoni are NOT there....Verona is.

Guardini abandons!!

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:44

WOW sky let one their rider's go in the break!! Surprise

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posted by livestrongnick [691 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:34

2nd KOM point Alt Del Pedraforca

1 Salerno 9 fantasy pts
2 Verona 8 fantasy pts
3 VanDeWalle 7 fantasy pts
4 Trofimov 6 fantasy pts
5 Roche 5 fantasy pt

Awaiting 6th to 9th places

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 13:07

Yes, cat 1 climbs should be awarding for top 9 so it'll be 9 fantasy points down to 1.

Today is cat 3, 1, 2 and hors cat followed by an hors cat summit finish. Not sure how many are scored on the hors cat.

posted by drheaton [2208 posts] 21st March 2013 - 13:00

Wagner abandons

posted by simon F [659 posts] 21st March 2013 - 12:59

drheaton wrote:
Yes, cat 1 climbs should be awarding for top 9 so it'll be 9 fantasy points down to 1.

Today is cat 3, 1, 2 and hors cat followed by an hors cat summit finish. Not sure how many are scored on the hors cat.

12 on a Hors cat

Need Aru to score me more points for my purist team Crying

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2658 posts] 21st March 2013 - 13:22

simon F wrote:
Wagner abandons

And so do I....

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 13:24

typical, got both agnoli and wagner in my standard team, and i swapped out Pate for Agnoli last night Crying

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 13:37

My Spanish ain't great - but I don't like the sound of some of these words...

@alejanvalverde y @eroscapecchi -también caído- abandonan la #VoltaCatalunya. El incidente no parece revestir consecuencias graves.

posted by chrisdstripes [748 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:06

Valverde and Capecchi have abandoned

posted by simon F [659 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:08

ooh, if thats true then its a massive blow for Moviestar.

Valverde looked good yesterday and was going to pick him but just couldn't get the funds together.

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:10

Could be good for you Stumps, as a lot of teams will have Valverde. Could also be good for Quintana's licence to attack again later...

posted by chrisdstripes [748 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:14

I've ignored my predilictions and gone for the Sky 1-2

Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Rigoberto Uran (SKY)
Alejandro Valverde (MOV)
Nairo Quintana (MOV)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (LAM)
Cristiano Salerno (LIQ)
Christian Meier (GRE)
Valerio Agnoli (AST)
Dmitriy Kozontchuk (KAT)

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:14

chrisdstripes wrote:
Could be good for you Stumps, as a lot of teams will have Valverde. Could also be good for Quintana's licence to attack again later...

Very true, mind you i think Quintana is in better form and is the real danger for Wiggins and Rodriguez.

Glad i've got all 3 now Big Grin

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:18

livestrongnick wrote:
After my shocker yesterday 32points.... Sick Crying
Taken 20 point hit to try and get my team back into shape

Valverde for JVDB
Scarponi for D Martin
Salerno for simon
Domalgalski for Meersman
Wiggins
Machado
Santaromita
Agnoli
Pinaeu

Ouch...Valverde abandons.

Most will transfer his credits straight to Wiggo or Scarponi I reckon but there may be value in spreading them over 2 20-25 rated guys?

posted by ray silvester [656 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:19

JAndrewHill wrote:
I've ignored my predilictions and gone for the Sky 1-2

Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Rigoberto Uran (SKY)
Alejandro Valverde (MOV)
Nairo Quintana (MOV)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (LAM)
Cristiano Salerno (LIQ)
Christian Meier (GRE)
Valerio Agnoli (AST)
Dmitriy Kozontchuk (KAT)

so if agnoli/valverde have abandoned, thats a bad day for me...come on Salerno, pick up my points.
Can I afford to swap valverde for jrod? Probably not...

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:19

Oh im up s**t creek, brought in Valverde last night, means I wont be able to bring in meersman tomorrow now Crying

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2658 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:21

(138 km) En ausencia de Valverde, el Sky se pone a tirar del pelotón. La diferencia de los 23 escapados es de 4:22

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:30

JAndrewHill wrote:
(138 km) En ausencia de Valverde, el Sky se pone a tirar del pelotón. La diferencia de los 23 escapados es de 4:22

(138 km) In the absence of Valverde, the Sky starts to pull the peloton. The difference of the 23 escapees is 4:22
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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:43

Took out Danny Martin last night and have two abandons so far today, just a regular day at the Fantasy.......

Come on Pinot!

posted by stevemarks [83 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:50

Nairo Quintana has punctured in the beginning of Port del Cantó and has progressing. 67 km to goal and 3.30 for the escape of 21.

apologies if the translation is slightly askew...blame microsoft

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:51

JAndrewHill wrote:
Nairo Quintana has punctured in the beginning of Port del Cantó and has progressing. 67 km to goal and 3.30 for the escape of 21.

apologies if the translation is slightly askew...blame microsoft


I blame whoever taught you Spanish. Bloody hell, Movistar are doing their best Garmin TdF 2012 impression here...

posted by chrisdstripes [748 posts] 21st March 2013 - 14:54

Valverde and Cappechi both crashed on a decent

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2658 posts] 21st March 2013 - 15:00

(157 km) In spite of The effort of two Garmin, Hesjedal and Martin, who lead the increase of the escaped ones, the diferenci...

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 15:03

Dia terrível na #VoltaCatalunya. Etapa rainha LIVE Eurosport às 14:30. Líder @alejanvalverde. abandona. Nova faena de @NairoQuintana?

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 15:05

(171 km) Puerto del Cantó: N. Roche (Saxo) pasa destacado por la cima. Puntúan por detrás C. Salerno, M. Astarloza, C....

Though, on TV, Valverde has just finished second....#confusing

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 15:33

OOps, I might have let slip Skys tactics at the top of this thread...
just seen Wiggo at the back of the skytrain, but who was that on his wheel??? Was is Rigoberto?
Wiggo to do the lead out for Uran today I reckon.

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 15:52

12km to the summit, Van Den Broeck has joined Gesink. Trying to bridge to Martin and Kiserlovski up the road

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:04

they have just swapped places !

Its all getting very confusing Thinking

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:04

rcorbin wrote:
Went Irish today

Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Nairo Quintana (MOV)
Daniel Martin (GRM)
Nicolas Roche (SAX)
Przemyslaw Niemiec (LAM)
Tiago Machado (RSN)
Christian Meier (GRE)
Cristiano Salerno (LIQ)
David Lopez (SKY)

looking good for the irish with 7km to go

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posted by JAndrewHill [918 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:14

He's got it Cool

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posted by northstar [202 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:32

2. Rodriguez

3. Quintana

4. Vdb

5. Gesink

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posted by northstar [202 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:33

and the tradition continues
transferd dan martin yesterday and he wins today
i hate this game:)

good to see the numbers 1 and 2 did the same thing:)

posted by The Instigator [72 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:39

Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying Crying
Transferred out Martin and Gesink so I could bring in Valverde! Martin and Gesink score lots of points and Valverde crashes out! I was already badly in this race too.

posted by NeilG83 [105 posts] 21st March 2013 - 16:45

Crying Crying Crying

Took out Martin and VDB for Pinot and Stetina. wonder how I might do worse tomorrow?

posted by stevemarks [83 posts] 21st March 2013 - 17:04

yeah yet another display of dropping the wrong riders again! Angry Crying Sick

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posted by livestrongnick [691 posts] 21st March 2013 - 17:54

LANTERN ROUGE!!!!!!

on the queen stage, how embarrassing Big Grin

posted by stevemarks [83 posts] 21st March 2013 - 18:00

1,2,3,6,11 plus 1,2,3,4,7 on gc for my standard team. Not a bad day if i say so myself Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 19:03

stevemarks wrote:
LANTERN ROUGE!!!!!!

on the queen stage, how embarrassing Big Grin

...and he's a very able climber, too. Thinking

Don't buy upgrades. Ride up grades.

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posted by obutterwick [384 posts] 21st March 2013 - 19:15

Good day for me 1,2,3,11,17 on stage plus Roche and Salerno
1,2,3,7 on gc
Plus all 5 mountain points too.
200+ points hopefully

Got to try and get meersman and wiggins in over next few days

posted by rcorbin [87 posts] 21st March 2013 - 19:43

Are we getting an update soon? Cool

Cheers

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posted by northstar [202 posts] 21st March 2013 - 19:56

On its way, full GC and climb results weren't available before I left work and traffic was god awful.

posted by drheaton [2208 posts] 21st March 2013 - 20:09

Ok, scores updating.

Good day to have Salerno, he scored fairly heavily in the break again.

posted by drheaton [2208 posts] 21st March 2013 - 20:27

Not a bad day, 176 with three non-scorers, Valverde, Richeze and Simon.

Summit finish and 5k badges to boot Cool

posted by drheaton [2208 posts] 21st March 2013 - 20:37

No probs, thanks Dr : )

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posted by northstar [202 posts] 21st March 2013 - 20:39

Gutted, only got 170 points then had a 10 point penalty. Thought i would have got more. Still green arrows across the board which cant be bad.

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posted by stumps [1413 posts] 21st March 2013 - 21:39

Took a 30 point penalty because I thought I had all the wrong riders, scored 83 (113) NOT great, but at least I have a decent team now

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posted by Gkam84 [6235 posts] 21st March 2013 - 21:40

drheaton wrote:
Ok, scores updating.

Good day to have Salerno, he scored fairly heavily in the break again.

Had Salerno and Martin but unfortunately Valverde as well. Time to bring in my favourite doper, err, sorry, I mean, rider, Purito. Without a timetrial and a strong team Wiggins is lost.

posted by Alan Tullett [851 posts] 22nd March 2013 - 0:04

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