Which GPS/HRM/Cadence Device

by wjputt   March 3, 2013  

I have a Bryton 20 which is okay but I want something that is better & probably with maps. What do people here think about the following?

Garmin Edge 800 GPS Performance Bundle
Mio Cyclo 305HC With Heart Rate and Cadence (UK Maps)
Garmin Edge 500 Red with Premium Heart Rate and Cadence

Okay I know that the Edge 500 hasn't got maps!

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I don't own any of them myself but i've been in the market for one too, the Garmin 800 is very well reviewed!

posted by Oliver Duffy [24 posts]
3rd March 2013 - 21:12

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Edge 500 is good. Although the bits that go with it aren't so good. I have had to replace a HRM strap and a cadence sensor in less than 6 months of use. Garmin aftersales were very good and replaced quickly.

However if I was buying again I think I would look at something else.

posted by Gman59c [80 posts]
3rd March 2013 - 21:51

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Edge 500 has a course feature which I've found more than sufficient to navigate with, as long as I plan a route beforehand.

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posted by CraigS [135 posts]
3rd March 2013 - 22:48

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Edge 500 works like a dream with RideWithGPS.com (free!)

I've used it to navigate Audax and general training rides up to 70miles.

As you plot out the course (you can choose google maps, OScycle etc) a route sheet (with readable cues) is created. You download the GPX file, put it in the relevant folder in the Garmin file tree, and it converts it to a tcx file course.

When you 'do' the course, the Garmin displays distance to finish, distance to next cue (direction change), upcoming elevation profile, a cue sheet WITH ROAD NAMES AND DIRECTIONS (i.e 'Left at Yellow Rd), and distances to each, and a breadcrumb trail (zoomable) with arrows at junctions.

Note - as far as I'm aware, the specific arrows and road names etc can only be done with RideWithGPS.

Overall, I find it very easy to use and anticipate turnings once you get used to it (and set your zoom level to one which you can understand). BUT it becomes infinity harder if roads are very close together and there are lots of turnings.

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posted by oddbydefault [103 posts]
3rd March 2013 - 23:54

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I agree the Edge 500 and ridewithgps are a fantastic combination. It's easy to use and much better than the overhyped Strava.

posted by LeDomestique [34 posts]
4th March 2013 - 0:10

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Get the Garmin.

posted by guyondebike [34 posts]
4th March 2013 - 1:13

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Gman59c wrote:
Edge 500 is good. Although the bits that go with it aren't so good. I have had to replace a HRM strap and a cadence sensor in less than 6 months of use. Garmin aftersales were very good and replaced quickly.

However if I was buying again I think I would look at something else.

Garmin are not in my good books at the moment.

I had what seems to be a fairly common problem (judging by similar issues on their support forum) with the plastic mount on the back of the Edge 500 breaking after around two years.

Out of warranty of course but they replaced it, for 70 quid - however it also cost me 40 quid to send it to them because they have no service in my region and then they put the full retail value on the customs form so it cost another 30 quid to get the thing back. All this because of 50p's worth of plastic.

If that was the end of the story I'd be happy...

Unit came back and won't pick up readings from my speed/cadence sensor on either of my two bikes fitted with them. Both worked perfectly prior to sending it away. I've reset it, followed the Garmin instructions and so on, to no avail.

Contacted Garmin and got "Computer Says No". Apparently it must be the speed/cadence device, not the unit. And if I think otherwise, guess what, I have to pay another 40 quid to send it, and the 30 quid to re-import it, that's assuming they replace it on warranty.

To rub salt into the wound the mucking about with the sensor must have shifted it and the arm got caught in an expensive wheel which now needs a new spoke and ruined a long-planned day of riding.

The only thing that has stopped me getting another unit so far is that Garmin seems to have the advantage in terms of ease of export and compatibility with mapping/logging sites. But I'm looking, and very reluctant to throw more money away on Garmin.

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posted by abudhabiChris [664 posts]
4th March 2013 - 10:50

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why not the Bryton 50T?

posted by robdaykin [163 posts]
5th March 2013 - 19:48

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use the 800 with openstreet maps and ridewithgps ... pretty
much flawless for recording performance and navigation.

still on the 3rd switch-back of Bwlch !

posted by therevokid [917 posts]
6th March 2013 - 10:48

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I'm in the same boat as in lookjng for a mapping GPS - I have read lots and got it down to Grmin 800 or the Mio Cyclo 305HC With Heart Rate and Cadence. Both seem to do the same thing but as a thicko GPX, other softweare required to load or manipulate maps puts me off, Is iot really that difficult....

thanks

THere is only bad choice of clothing, not bad weather. MTFU and get out there and ride.
A little mantra for me in the winter months

posted by stealfwayne [116 posts]
6th March 2013 - 13:46

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oddbydefault wrote:
Edge 500 works like a dream with RideWithGPS.com (free!)


How does RideWithGPS compare with Garmin Connect? On the face of it they seem to do the same things.

posted by chrismday [56 posts]
6th March 2013 - 13:57

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I only use RideWithGPS for mapping. It has an extensive feature set (on par with BikeHike - if not better. And it's a bonus to be able to save routes for future reference (and editing).

Garmin Connect has a map 'courses' bit. It's pretty basic. No cue-sheets, different types of maps, or useful data etc.

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posted by oddbydefault [103 posts]
6th March 2013 - 22:08

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Garmin 800. Full maps, easy to navigate. Don't be put off by the occasional moan about problems. Had mine for a couple of years now and never got lost. Use it every week for big 50+ miles down small country roads with no names and even cycled from London to Spain with it. Mapping is easy. Ride with GPS is good although I prefer using google maps and using gmap to gpx to create the gpx file. Best thing I ever bought, after the bike of course!

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posted by sm [370 posts]
6th March 2013 - 22:58

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Garmin Edge 800 (or new model 810)

You will read some negative stuff on the net.

Mine's been faultless, but the "Instruction Manual" that comes with it is rubbish.

The Garmin Connect web-based software is very good.

posted by Littlesox [89 posts]
7th March 2013 - 19:55

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Thanks sm. Still confused by the maps thing! Got HRM & Cadence bundle but no maps. A mistake?

posted by wjputt [44 posts]
7th March 2013 - 23:41

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Only thing I would add is related to Bryton 50T - Bought one from Wiggle and couldn't get the mapping feature to work, also couldn't access the mapping on the "back up" cd rom. Brytons technical support have not responded to any of my requests for help and the "Bryton Bridge" web site does not have the required functionality to manage the unit or provide technical help. After a week of buggering around with it Wiggle thankfully agreed to take it back.

I've got an Edge 500 now and really like it.

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posted by velo pixie [6 posts]
12th March 2013 - 14:38

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I got a replacement 50T from Wiggle recently and the map installation process went something along the lines of 'insert micro SD card (supplied), switch on, enter registration code from card' . Maps then worked fine. I did pull the SD card and put the one from the previous unit in, but couldn't activate it with either key which seemed odd, but seeing as the Navteq maps are ok, and I don't strictly need the Open Street Map ones, I didn't worry.

I agree the CD and website are currently useless for managing maps. The issue there is that they recently changed the whole client server software model (to fit my requirements, I suspect, sorry) and map management seems to have become lost in the process. It used to be on the device tab on the website, which is now the local device manager.

Whom did you contact for support? support at brytonsport dot com gets answered usually after a couple of days, often via or cc'd to support_gb at brytoncorp dot net. technical dot bryton at zyro dot co dot uk goes nowhere useful, and in fact Zyro seem the weak point in the whole chain.

Your experiences with Bryton mirror mine with Garmin. When I first bought a 50T I was really pleased at getting responses from support instead of being ignored completely.

posted by robdaykin [163 posts]
12th March 2013 - 19:38

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Anybody got a MIO cyclo 305HC? this unit is just a bit different from the garmin adn I like the randomizer (3 options) bit. any decent reviews out there? thanks

THere is only bad choice of clothing, not bad weather. MTFU and get out there and ride.
A little mantra for me in the winter months

posted by stealfwayne [116 posts]
16th March 2013 - 18:45

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OKay so after a whiler I plumped for the MIO 305HC, It works just fine, if you don't want to download the free software release just a few months ago. It won't load on my machine, then after over 10 attempts. success. 'Here we go' i htought. NO! now it freezes my laptop every time I open it. Bloody rubbish. Seriously considering sending it back. ( again it already went back when it froze suddenly' any comments from users very much welcome.

THere is only bad choice of clothing, not bad weather. MTFU and get out there and ride.
A little mantra for me in the winter months

posted by stealfwayne [116 posts]
29th June 2014 - 16:15

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Had my 500, with the hrm and cadence, since they came out (2010 I think) never a single fault with it.
I want to replace it with a new one, as I like new things, but it just keeps going!

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posted by glynr36 [638 posts]
29th June 2014 - 17:09

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Perhaps it's just mine. Think I'll call helpdesk and get them to update for me. Might as well put them to use. Cheers for the comment glynr36.

THere is only bad choice of clothing, not bad weather. MTFU and get out there and ride.
A little mantra for me in the winter months

posted by stealfwayne [116 posts]
29th June 2014 - 18:07

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+1 for the Garmin 800 and ridewithgps.
Buy it with funds you save not entering sportives and ride the routes without being jeopardized by people taking stupid risks as they think they're racing....

posted by arfa [627 posts]
29th June 2014 - 21:14

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abudhabiChris wrote:
they put the full retail value on the customs form so it cost another 30 quid to get the thing back.

I'm no expert, certainly not for your part of the world, but most countries don't charge customs or warranty repairs. You might be able to claim your fees back if you produce some documentation.

Perhaps facing the customs department would cost you more than you have already paid of course...

posted by cqexbesd [42 posts]
29th June 2014 - 21:31

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Which GPS/HRM/Cadence Device?

GPS - android smartphone
HRM - sigma sports HRM watch and strap
Cadence - cheap wired bike computer with cadence

That's how i do it, anyway. Others may have different ideas.

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posted by PJ McNally [596 posts]
29th June 2014 - 22:44

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I have to say that the Garmin Edge 800 is probably the worst gadget I own in terms of quality and value for money, but there's not much competition out there. My £99 smart phone dumps on it for features and build quality. It's even waterproof. It's just a bit hard to mount and the battery won't last much more than 150km.

If anybody knows of an Android-based bike computer, i.e. smartphone functionality (GPS, apps, nice screen) but in a bike-friendly case with a big battery, I'd love to hear about it. If I had any clue about how to build it myself, I would do. Hmm, maybe this is how I make my millions...

So, to the OP, use a phone, mount and external battery until a company makes a product worthy of your £££. The Garmin Edge 800 certainly isn't.

posted by srchar [84 posts]
30th June 2014 - 0:52

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Put your smartphone on airplane mode?

Last time I did a 8 hour ride, this let me record the whole route, with battery to spare.

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posted by PJ McNally [596 posts]
30th June 2014 - 7:57

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stealfwayne wrote:
Anybody got a MIO cyclo 305HC? this unit is just a bit different from the garmin adn I like the randomizer (3 options) bit. any decent reviews out there? thanks

I got a 505HC and I think the review on here was the best as well as DCRainmaker IIRC (305 is same as 505 but without wireless so 505 reviews are pretty relevant).

Worked very well so far until this weekend. It's not recorded 30 mins of one ride and only first 4 seconds of antoher! Sounds like an issue with V.4 that they're looking at sorting out in next couple of weeks.

posted by fustuarium [77 posts]
30th June 2014 - 9:00

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