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by janette111   February 12, 2013  

Is there any way of showing the league tables including the premium teams, but only showing the scores awarded for the non premium competitions?

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Gilbert and Sullivan wrote:
I am scandalized by this,mas is practically the best player in the game and he's languishing in about 200th place,scored 239 in opening stage of Oman,what is going on,great fantasy game,tireless work from folks behind the scenes but make it fair for all.

To be honest I'm scandalised that non-payers can complain?

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
17th February 2013 - 12:45

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I dont play premium because i dont have the time to research and play the smaller races,its a game for everyone,not just people who pay,that is the ethos of the game,if you cant see that then i cant help you.

posted by Gilbert and Sullivan [10 posts]
17th February 2013 - 13:43

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So it's a case of:
"I don't have time to research and play the game properly.....can you find a way of punishing those that do AND who pay for the privilege so that I can win?"

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
17th February 2013 - 14:24

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Those who pay are helping to ensure that the game continues to exist for all to play, even those who don't want or can't afford to pay. If you can't see that, then no-one can help you.

posted by simon F [977 posts]
17th February 2013 - 14:35

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Its seems that the mood is "if you dont pay we dont want you" That's fine.

posted by Gilbert and Sullivan [10 posts]
17th February 2013 - 14:41

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Having been on a really tight budget a few years back i can see where some people are coming from. I'm fortunate now that i can afford the £10 but some cant.

The game should show how the people who cant afford to play are positioned by showing a league without the premium scores.

However i play premium purely because i want to play more races. I dont have the time to sit and scroll through masses of stats, i play purely for the enjoyment.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2642 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:02

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I pay but I agree with Gilbert and Sullivan.....Surely its possible to let nonpayers have a separate league...

Little bit of arrogance and rudeness on the behalf of some people.....all Gilbert and Sullivan did was politely ask a question... Worried

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [465 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:07

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I don't have a problem with the original request. It's perfectly reasonable and would probably be interesting to see.

It's the

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if you cant see that then i cant help you.
that I find irritating. If you're not paying and want extra features, then that's probably not the way to go about it.

posted by simon F [977 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:17

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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
I pay but I agree with Gilbert and Sullivan.....Surely its possible to let nonpayers have a separate league...

Little bit of arrogance and rudeness on the behalf of some people.....all Gilbert and Sullivan did was politely ask a question... Worried

It was the 'scandalised' comment that done it for me

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:21

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which one?

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I am scandalized by this,
from G&S or
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To be honest I'm scandalised
in reply?

Personally, so long as you're consistent, I consider that -ise and -ize are both fine

posted by simon F [977 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:38

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I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year... Big Grin

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [465 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:44

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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year... Big Grin

Still think we should have a "like" button. Saves me cut / pasting and then typing this Big Grin

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2642 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:47

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simon F wrote:
which one?

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I am scandalized by this,
from G&S or
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To be honest I'm scandalised
in reply?

Personally, so long as you're consistent, I consider that -ise and -ize are both fine

Devil some humour to the thread (or should that be humor Thinking)

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:54

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stumps wrote:
STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year... Big Grin

Still think we should have a "like" button. Saves me cut / pasting and then typing this Big Grin

You could just press quote instead of reply. Saves on the cut/paste. Aside from that, I agree (with both of you) Smile

posted by simon F [977 posts]
17th February 2013 - 15:57

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I'm not liking the us vs them replies.

Its a game, some can afford and some can't afford to pay, some that can afford, choose not to because they are only interested in certain races.

I'll happily admit, last year I could not afford it, but I was testing out the game and server as a "beta" tester and Dave gave me the £10 back after all the testing.

This year, again, I could just about scrape the money together, but because I'm running alot of the races, also sorted out all the riders and their pictures aswell. I was given premium free.

So I see where people that cannot afford/don't want to pay are coming from.

We do need a league that discounts the premium races, to show a like for like progress though the season. Especially because I am adding new races to the premium calendar Wink

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posted by Gkam84 [8645 posts]
17th February 2013 - 17:05

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Last year premium scores did not count in overall tables, thats why im wondering why yall act like its normal. You should understand those premium races as a bonus. Im not living in the uk and dont possess a credit card, so im not able to get me a premium account. The question is not if theres a way to show a table without premium scores. Its about whether premium scores should be relevant in the overall. Or maybe theres a possibility to create a premium league (similar to the purist league).

posted by arsene [217 posts]
17th February 2013 - 17:24

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Would it be possible to make another league where it adds your purist team and your normal team together to give an overall overall score?

posted by leortp [64 posts]
17th February 2013 - 20:08

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I fully retract the "scandalized" comment.It was a badly backfired cycling in-joke re Guimard describing Andy Schleck tossing away the Giro,apologies.As for "us and them" mentality,i agree,this goes against the grain,what distinguishes cycling fans/cyclists from other sports fans is the connection,the nod or hello on the road.I'll pay the premium next season but not play the premium races because i want to support a great game.I am sure the decision to go premium halfway through last season wasnt reached lightly,without knowing the folks making the game i am convinced it was a discussed and reasoned decision with the consideration of keeping everyone inclusive.The non-payers post from Ray S is silly,its not the poll tax,grow up for goodness sake.

posted by Gilbert and Sullivan [10 posts]
18th February 2013 - 3:56

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Well, this is a lively thread. Sorry to have only just found it.

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posted by obutterwick [527 posts]
18th February 2013 - 9:00

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i spec i'll probably make another overall table without the premium games in it. shouldn't be hard.

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7233 posts]
18th February 2013 - 9:24

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This is one reason why i love this game/website, the banter can be very comical sometimes Rolling On The Floor

Weather your Premium or standard it's only a game just enjoy it for what it is and be grateful that we have such great extension of our love for cycling to share and play with each other Big Grin

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1666 posts]
18th February 2013 - 10:59

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livestrongnick wrote:
This is one reason why i love this game/website, the banter can be very comical sometimes Rolling On The Floor

Weather your Premium or standard it's only a game just enjoy it for what it is and be grateful that we have such great extension of our love for cycling to share and play with each other Big Grin

Well said.

Don't buy upgrades. Ride up grades. (Merckx)

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posted by obutterwick [527 posts]
18th February 2013 - 13:29

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The big question is, will the cost of the premium game now go up, as the game engine has to cope with 19 teams, now that the uci have allowed the russians in. Wink

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posted by JAndrewHill [1206 posts]
18th February 2013 - 22:22

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JAndrewHill wrote:
The big question is, will the cost of the premium game now go up, as the game engine has to cope with 19 teams, now that the uci have allowed the russians in. Wink

LIKE Big Grin

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posted by livestrongnick [1666 posts]
18th February 2013 - 22:26

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Controversial.

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posted by obutterwick [527 posts]
18th February 2013 - 22:57

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JAndrewHill wrote:
The big question is, will the cost of the premium game now go up, as the game engine has to cope with 19 teams, now that the uci have allowed the russians in. Wink

No, Katusha are paying compensation, but if it all based on teams, I've loaded in at least 10 new ones recently, I'd be paying a fortune Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8645 posts]
18th February 2013 - 23:20

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I can make it more expensive if you like. always open to suggestions.

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7233 posts]
18th February 2013 - 23:23

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What else would we get for our buck? : )

posted by northstar [1083 posts]
18th February 2013 - 23:26

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maybe a Truth and Reconciliation Commission is in order? Day Dreaming

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posted by makiavelli [14 posts]
19th February 2013 - 17:35

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I imagine this was missed due to people's cantankerous nature but ...

Would it be possible to make a league where it adds your purist team and your normal team together to give an overall overall score?

Would be quote interesting and in theory would give an overal winner as well as a purist winner and standard winner?

cheers,

posted by leortp [64 posts]
4th March 2013 - 12:07

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