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Is there any way of showing the league tables including the premium teams, but only showing the scores awarded for the non premium competitions?

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arsene [205 posts] 3 years ago
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I was wondering too. Thought the premium comps were not included in overall tables to keep it fair. Mediterraen scores still counted tho. This sucks, I'd lead the whole purist league without them.

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arsene [205 posts] 3 years ago
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Can we have some clarity here? I think those premium points really should not be counted in overall tables because it's just not fair to non-premium players.

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Gilbert and Sullivan [41 posts] 3 years ago
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I am scandalized by this,mas is practically the best player in the game and he's languishing in about 200th place,scored 239 in opening stage of Oman,what is going on,great fantasy game,tireless work from folks behind the scenes but make it fair for all.

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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Just has a look at this, I see what you mean, the first non premium players are down in the 250 places.

We need a way to compare by taking out the premium race scores, but keeping the teams and seeing how we all compare.

Will see what Dave can do  3

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Gilbert and Sullivan [41 posts] 3 years ago
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Thanks,much appreciated.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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Gilbert and Sullivan wrote:

I am scandalized by this,mas is practically the best player in the game and he's languishing in about 200th place,scored 239 in opening stage of Oman,what is going on,great fantasy game,tireless work from folks behind the scenes but make it fair for all.

To be honest I'm scandalised that non-payers can complain?

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Gilbert and Sullivan [41 posts] 3 years ago
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I dont play premium because i dont have the time to research and play the smaller races,its a game for everyone,not just people who pay,that is the ethos of the game,if you cant see that then i cant help you.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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So it's a case of:
"I don't have time to research and play the game properly.....can you find a way of punishing those that do AND who pay for the privilege so that I can win?"

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simon F [1001 posts] 3 years ago
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Those who pay are helping to ensure that the game continues to exist for all to play, even those who don't want or can't afford to pay. If you can't see that, then no-one can help you.

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Gilbert and Sullivan [41 posts] 3 years ago
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Its seems that the mood is "if you dont pay we dont want you" That's fine.

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AWPeleton [3312 posts] 3 years ago
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Having been on a really tight budget a few years back i can see where some people are coming from. I'm fortunate now that i can afford the £10 but some cant.

The game should show how the people who cant afford to play are positioned by showing a league without the premium scores.

However i play premium purely because i want to play more races. I dont have the time to sit and scroll through masses of stats, i play purely for the enjoyment.

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STEVESPRO 79 [543 posts] 3 years ago
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I pay but I agree with Gilbert and Sullivan.....Surely its possible to let nonpayers have a separate league...

Little bit of arrogance and rudeness on the behalf of some people.....all Gilbert and Sullivan did was politely ask a question...  17

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simon F [1001 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't have a problem with the original request. It's perfectly reasonable and would probably be interesting to see.

It's the

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if you cant see that then i cant help you.

that I find irritating. If you're not paying and want extra features, then that's probably not the way to go about it.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:

I pay but I agree with Gilbert and Sullivan.....Surely its possible to let nonpayers have a separate league...

Little bit of arrogance and rudeness on the behalf of some people.....all Gilbert and Sullivan did was politely ask a question...  17

It was the 'scandalised' comment that done it for me

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simon F [1001 posts] 3 years ago
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which one?

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I am scandalized by this,

from G&S or

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To be honest I'm scandalised

in reply?

Personally, so long as you're consistent, I consider that -ise and -ize are both fine

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STEVESPRO 79 [543 posts] 3 years ago
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I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year...  4

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AWPeleton [3312 posts] 3 years ago
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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:

I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year...  4

Still think we should have a "like" button. Saves me cut / pasting and then typing this  4

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TERatcliffe26 [4621 posts] 3 years ago
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simon F wrote:

which one?

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I am scandalized by this,

from G&S or

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To be honest I'm scandalised

in reply?

Personally, so long as you're consistent, I consider that -ise and -ize are both fine

 19 some humour to the thread (or should that be humor :?)

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simon F [1001 posts] 3 years ago
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stumps wrote:
STEVESPRO 79 wrote:

I just hope that an optional £10 payment is not going to make us become a class-differentiating cycling website...... For me I play because it makes watching on Eurosport a lot more interesting...I dont care about the new gimmicky badges and stuff... Lets just be one happy family....Differences of opinion are a fact of life...
Probably ranks as the best tenner that I ever spend in a year...  4

Still think we should have a "like" button. Saves me cut / pasting and then typing this  4

You could just press quote instead of reply. Saves on the cut/paste. Aside from that, I agree (with both of you)  1

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm not liking the us vs them replies.

Its a game, some can afford and some can't afford to pay, some that can afford, choose not to because they are only interested in certain races.

I'll happily admit, last year I could not afford it, but I was testing out the game and server as a "beta" tester and Dave gave me the £10 back after all the testing.

This year, again, I could just about scrape the money together, but because I'm running alot of the races, also sorted out all the riders and their pictures aswell. I was given premium free.

So I see where people that cannot afford/don't want to pay are coming from.

We do need a league that discounts the premium races, to show a like for like progress though the season. Especially because I am adding new races to the premium calendar  3

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arsene [205 posts] 3 years ago
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Last year premium scores did not count in overall tables, thats why im wondering why yall act like its normal. You should understand those premium races as a bonus. Im not living in the uk and dont possess a credit card, so im not able to get me a premium account. The question is not if theres a way to show a table without premium scores. Its about whether premium scores should be relevant in the overall. Or maybe theres a possibility to create a premium league (similar to the purist league).

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leortp [66 posts] 3 years ago
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Would it be possible to make another league where it adds your purist team and your normal team together to give an overall overall score?

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Gilbert and Sullivan [41 posts] 3 years ago
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I fully retract the "scandalized" comment.It was a badly backfired cycling in-joke re Guimard describing Andy Schleck tossing away the Giro,apologies.As for "us and them" mentality,i agree,this goes against the grain,what distinguishes cycling fans/cyclists from other sports fans is the connection,the nod or hello on the road.I'll pay the premium next season but not play the premium races because i want to support a great game.I am sure the decision to go premium halfway through last season wasnt reached lightly,without knowing the folks making the game i am convinced it was a discussed and reasoned decision with the consideration of keeping everyone inclusive.The non-payers post from Ray S is silly,its not the poll tax,grow up for goodness sake.

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obutterwick [474 posts] 3 years ago
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Well, this is a lively thread. Sorry to have only just found it.

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dave atkinson [6223 posts] 3 years ago
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i spec i'll probably make another overall table without the premium games in it. shouldn't be hard.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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This is one reason why i love this game/website, the banter can be very comical sometimes  24

Weather your Premium or standard it's only a game just enjoy it for what it is and be grateful that we have such great extension of our love for cycling to share and play with each other  4

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obutterwick [474 posts] 3 years ago
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livestrongnick wrote:

This is one reason why i love this game/website, the banter can be very comical sometimes  24

Weather your Premium or standard it's only a game just enjoy it for what it is and be grateful that we have such great extension of our love for cycling to share and play with each other  4

Well said.

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JAndrewHill [1207 posts] 3 years ago
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The big question is, will the cost of the premium game now go up, as the game engine has to cope with 19 teams, now that the uci have allowed the russians in.  3

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

The big question is, will the cost of the premium game now go up, as the game engine has to cope with 19 teams, now that the uci have allowed the russians in.  3

LIKE  4

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obutterwick [474 posts] 3 years ago
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Controversial.

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